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For those of you that DO still try to keep positive game discussion alive, I also wish you luck here at NWR. Perhaps you guys can bring the forums back to its former glory where I failed. Oh wait, Silks is the Director now, never mind.
But the age of the nonsense and Funhouse has died. Vendettas and harmless personal attack are gone, the site's weird sense of humor is dieing, and what made this site better than all other forums is slowly, completely, and irreversibly disappearing.
I'm still hopefully though. I hope that after the next E3, you guy will remember what all of you have forgotten!
I'm starting to think that Kinect is going to make it. It isn't going to get killed off by bad word of mouth. No one is going to return it to the store when they find out how crappy it is. This isn't going to happen. I have never been a fan of the Wii and pretty much made all the same assumptions about it a few years back. But I was wrong.
I figured motion control was a silly fad because it lacked substance. Wii Sports seemed short and shallow. I lost interest in it quickly and figured that it relied a lot of novelty value and that if Nintendo wanted the Wii to continue to be successful that something more substancial needed to be on the way. Hell the damn game would misfire on me all the time. Won't other people notice that and be turned off? But the Wii continued on with lots of waggle and weak shovelware titles and it didn't make a difference. Casuals obviously didn't care.
I felt that with the Wii and the Wii series Nintendo was doing the bare minimum they could get away with. I think subconsciously most of us thought that, even if you are a big fan of the Wii Series games. The reason I think that is with Move we all assumed it was doomed because they wouldn't have Nintendo's games and the cost would be too high and Kinect was even more doomed because it had all the above plus it didn't work worth a ****. What we were really saying is that Wii Sports and Wii Fit and all those are at the low end of the spectum. If you released product that was LESS than that you were doomed to failure. Casuals will eat up the Nintendo stuff but this is more or less the worst product you could get away with.
Well I have a feeling that we can't really seperate our own tastes and that the threshold of what is or isn't acceptable to casuals is a lot lower than we think. For casuals Wii Sports is not the threshold. They will gladly accept less. I think what it really is is that Nintendo's Wii series is the minimum that WE will accept. We'll enjoy Wii Sports and Wii Fit but really couldn't enjoy less than that. So Sony or MS doing a lesser version of the Wii seems like worthless junk in our eyes. We're confusing our minimum standards for that of everyone. We see Nintendo's usage of motion control and figure that nothing less than that would be acceptable. We're probably wrong and that's why the Kinect is succeeding when we don't think it should.
When Nintendo talked about their games being for everyone they weren't kidding. I thought it meant dumbing down core games so that casuals like them too. No, what they did was take casual games and bring them up to a level where core gamers can get some enjoyment from them too. Sony and MS are not doing that.