Author Topic: Got shafted again...and again (Read 11920 times)

SgtShiversBen · « **on:** April 06, 2005, 06:17:01 AM »

If there's another forum where this is already on please tell me, but without further ado I present to you another reason why to hate third parties:

Shaft Me Once

Shaft Me Twice

Shaft Me Thrice

Honostly, what is the matter with just getting a little bit of love when some of these games would work BEST for the GameCube (sans the third link)? Viewtiful Joe?!? Already working on a third game when the second and first one bombed on the PS2.

Lego Star Wars, a game that if only was on GameCube, should be labled "TEH KITTY" but instead is praised like crazy.

And instant messenging on the damn PSP? Honostly you cannot tell me that would work wonders on the NDS! Damn kids and their loud music.

Hostile Creation · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2005, 06:24:36 AM »

I hate Sony and I hope their stomach turns to pure acid and melts their intestines. And their heart turns into a ravenous squid and devours whatever's left. Bastards.

Mario · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2005, 06:24:42 AM »

That Viewtiful Joe PS2 exclusive pisses me off, AND it makes no sense. Now, I own a PS2, and i'll probably buy it for PS2 if it's good, but while it's loading i'll be wishing I was playing it on GC. Viewtiful Joe sold pretty good on GC, VJ on PS2 absolutely flopped. VJ2 flopped on both, but sold better on GC. WHY ON EARTH IS THIS NEW ONE EXCLUSIVE TO PS2? It makes no sense.

All I can think of, is Capcom took a look at the userbases, and said "oh hey more people own a PS2, so it'll sell better on PS2, let's release it on PS2!" When will companies realise the horrible flaws in this logic?

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2005, 06:38:19 AM »

Well, the new VJ game is styled after SSB. I guess they figured there's no way they can beat SSBM, which almost everyone already has

I know I wouldn't buy it.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #4 on:** April 06, 2005, 07:17:34 AM »

They're making an new EXCLUSIVE Viewtiful Joe PS2 game? That's f*cking ridiculous! The combined sales of both VJ games on the PS2 was insanely low. It might not be even 100,000 units.

Damn it I'm so f*cking tired of this. What the hell do we have to do to keep third party games? If we don't buy games we lose out and we lose out even when we DO buy games. Both Viewtiful Joe and Soul Calibur II sold better on the Cube despite a huge difference in the userbase. How can we do better than that? There couldn't be a better reason to put a game on the Cube.

I imagine what's happening is that third parties are losing money due to the numerous stupid things they do (ie: releasing VJ2 around the same time as some of the most anticipated games ever) so they have to cut costs somewhere and the Cube being number three gets the axe, regardless of how well a game actually performed on it. This is why Nintendo's market share is a big deal. We're getting cut off just because the Cube is in last place. Third parties are not taking into account past sales. They're just looking at userbase numbers and making decisions based on that and we're getting punished because they're stupid. The Rev CAN'T be number three or it's going to be the exact same thing all over again. If after year one of the Rev if Nintendo's in last place we might not even get any third party exclusives at all.

wandering · « **Reply #5 on:** April 06, 2005, 07:40:47 AM »

Wow, this sucks.
This is why Rev has to be so insansely great that it crushes the competition on impact....in spite of said competition's massive popularity and huge wallets.

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Well, the new VJ game is styled after SSB. I guess they figured there's no way they can beat SSBM, which almost everyone already has I know I wouldn't buy it.

Which is why Nintendo should've approached Capcom and said, 'hey, you know that fighting game you're working on? We've got a better one for you: Super Smash Brothers: Viewtiful Edition.'

joshnickerson · « **Reply #6 on:** April 06, 2005, 10:28:12 AM »

Watch, this new VJ game will bomb and Capcom will STILL say the PS2 is the best system to keep the franchise on.

Seriously, I don't see this game even being any good. If Capcom couldn't figure out how to implement a two player mode in VJ2, how the hell are they going to make a decent fighting game out of it? How would the VX powers work if both players activate them at the same time?

Conspiracy theory... does it make anyone suspicious that two developers that Nintendo's been so buddy-buddy with this generation are making Sony exclusives of franchises that did best of the Cube? *Doo dee do de dooo....*

KDR_11k · « **Reply #7 on:** April 06, 2005, 10:31:40 AM »

Haha, Capcom is doomed. I wonder when they'll try to release some collector's pack "Capcom games noone bought". That'd be quite huge.

09n · « **Reply #8 on:** April 06, 2005, 10:49:40 AM »

I dont know the true reason but hear are a few popular suggestions:
Third parties hate GC
Sony bribes them
They are all very stupid
Sony and microsoft have "persuaded" the third parties to create exclusives for their consoles
Everyone just hates the gamecube (good example; Lego Star wars is praised as great but if on the gamecube it would be called babyish)

mantidor · « **Reply #9 on:** April 06, 2005, 11:11:51 AM »

I pick the third one

wandering · « **Reply #10 on:** April 06, 2005, 11:23:49 AM »

couchmonkey · « **Reply #11 on:** April 06, 2005, 11:58:22 AM »

I really have to wonder if Sony is paying for recent exclusives, because it would take an idiot not to notice that the games sell better on the Cube, and that there's a lot less competition on the Cube than on the other consoles.

Still, it might be pure stupidity. Maybe management made a decision without being informed of sales or some such crap.

Say, does anyone know how VJ2 did in Japan versus here? I know it did worse on PS2 here, but high sales in Japan would explain a lot and wouldn't be unheard of either.

Nosferat2 · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2005, 02:08:13 PM »

Its a fighting game. Why care? I would understand if it was VJ3, but this isnt even a sequel. I think they are just looking to make a quick and dirty buck. A fighting game shoudnt be hard to throw together and the PS2 will have the best potential to sell. No need to multi develop and cheap development(its a fighting game) coupled with the biggest user base, its a smart move to make a quick buck.
Show outrage when VJ3 is exclusive on PS2. Dont get all upset for a fighting game that we dont know nothing about, it may very well suck ass and probably will.

ruby_onix · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2005, 02:17:29 PM »

Heh. And Capcom keeps whining about how they're losing money.

A monkey could run that company better than it is now.

SgtShiversBen · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2005, 02:29:39 PM »

Nosferat2, the Viewtiful Joe thing isn't what really bugs me. It's more of the general picture of things.

You would think that a FRANCHISE that did better on the GameCube BOTH times would at least get some recognition. But apparently greed is thicker than smarts.

Also the Lego SW thing irks me so much, I won't even go into it. 09n has the right idea.

And the PSP just bugs me too. C&C on that thing?! Seriously....

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2005, 03:11:34 PM »

Well remember the last SSBM style game capcom made on the PS2 Onimusha Blade Warriors? And we know how much that game sucked but really VJ series isnt that much suited for a SSBM style game *points to Onimusha Blade Warriors* basically the franchise isnt that deep what characters.

nickmitch · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2005, 03:50:52 PM »

Yeah Viewtiful Joe doesn't ave enough characters for a full fighting game.
At least we get VJ DS.
And isn't the Lego game comming out on GBA?
And the PSP is for chumps and their chumpettes.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2005, 03:55:52 PM »

Hahahaha you guys need to chill out....go grab a beer/joint/book or something....

Only a few hours after the story ran it was updated stating that a GameCube version was on the way....

Read it yourselves here

MrMojoRising · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:13:32 PM »

I've got my beer, joint and book, now I'm horney.

Don'tHate742 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:16:34 PM »

/ = or

beer OR joint OR book.....

hehe, I know you were kidding.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:18:41 PM »

Gamespot says GC, PSP & more info on the DS vesion (PS2 might not get it)

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #21 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:34:27 PM »

Well it will be really awesome if you can play as boss characters like fire leo and if they do a good job and keep it fun i might keep an eye on this one (the cube version of course).

joshnickerson · « **Reply #22 on:** April 06, 2005, 04:37:27 PM »

Well, I guess Capcom isn't totally gone yet.

I still think the game is gonna suck though.

Flames_of_chaos · « **Reply #23 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:43:07 PM »

I just hope it doesnt turn to a Onimusha Blade Warriors.

IceCold · « **Reply #24 on:** April 06, 2005, 05:52:20 PM »

in response to the "not enough characters" comment

b]"The game will also feature characters from the TV anime series of the same name currently airing in Japan"

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Author Topic: Got shafted again...and again (Read 11920 times)