Author Topic: "New 3DS" model (Read 31469 times)

azeke · « **on:** August 29, 2014, 07:29:48 AM »

Also apparently there are features games that are exclusive to that model, like faster eShop and Xenoblade.

Also -- customizable cover plates!

Also -- skins (for all models):

Also -- along with Xenoblade, NES Remix is also getting ported to 3DS.

Shaymin · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2014, 07:51:21 AM »

Second stick looks like ass on both models, the shoulder button arrangement worked so well on the original Classic Controller, I have to buy a 64GB microSD thank god that's cheaper than the Vita card...

...and yet I'm buying the damn thing day one for Xenoblade when it comes out here.

I have a problem.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2014, 09:16:04 AM »

$10 says it can play Wii U games through remote play like PS3/PS4 with PSP/Vita.

Ceric · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2014, 09:43:35 AM »

Quote from: Brandogg on August 29, 2014, 09:16:04 AM

$10 says it can play Wii U games through remote play like PS3/PS4 with PSP/Vita.

If its PS4 Vita like. Day One sell and that is the only thing it could do differently.
If its PS3 PSP/Vita like. Why did they even bother spending the time to try to implement that.
There is that much of a difference between the two schemes.

I have no idea what that picture where its comparing New XL to Old XL. To me it looks like New XL made everything more pixelated.

To tell you the truth I'm a little bit disappointed about the laziness of the Blue one. If its suppose to be based off the GCN controller then it should be either Indigo(Purple) or Gray, The C-Stick should by Yellow, and 2 of the buttons should be a different color.

shingi_70 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2014, 09:57:33 AM »

I still have the Orginal black 3DS and I've held off on the XL till now. If Xenoblade launches with the system i'll probably jump on the train.

Triforce Hermit · « **Reply #5 on:** August 29, 2014, 10:05:21 AM »

Xenoblade is the entire reason I am going to buy this.

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2014, 10:33:47 AM »

is the buttons and CPU the only difference, or is there a better/bigger screen or is it basically the same screen? Also is New 3DS a brand new console like Game Boy Advance was to Game Boy Color or is it the same as GBA SP to GBA? I read it has faster CPU but is that just for making the system run faster or will it be a whole new product and if so whats the word on BC, full DS or just regular 3DS?

ejamer · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2014, 10:44:40 AM »

Quote from: Triforce Hermit on August 29, 2014, 10:05:21 AM

Xenoblade is the entire reason I am going to buy this.

Sadly, I'm probably in the same boat. Don't need it... but portable Xenoblade? Nintendo hitting me where it hurts.

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2014, 10:47:59 AM »

Quote from: ejamer on August 29, 2014, 10:44:40 AM

Quote from: Triforce Hermit on August 29, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
Xenoblade is the entire reason I am going to buy this.

Sadly, I'm probably in the same boat. Don't need it... but portable Xenoblade? Nintendo hitting me where it hurts.

I already made up my mind I will be getting the GameCube colored one, so my GC can live again. I hope this is a sign they are prepping GameCube games for Virtual Console that would be a big selling point. Of course knowing Nintendo with GBA games on Wii U they would release GC games on New 3DS instead.

Mop it up · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2014, 09:10:48 PM »

I'm glad the regular size model has a similar form as the XL, the original 3DS model feels like a prototype that should not have been released.

Adrock · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2014, 09:28:33 PM »

I'm surprised the regular New 3DS has a larger screen than the standard 3DS. I would have thought Nintendo would keep it the same. Then again, the original DSi had a larger screen than both previous DS models.

Kwolf · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2014, 03:04:43 AM »

I might just have to dip on this system. I still use my original launch black 3DS. I'm so cheap, I have avoided the xl's even though I really kinda want one. Now this, and Xenoblade, which I didn't play on the wii. I might just have to jump in on it.

Still not sure about that second nub stick. Doesn't look very comfortable, but I won't judge it yet. The extra shoulder buttons too look a bit iffy. Will be glad to hear some hands one reports when people can actually use this thing. If the word is pretty good, and money is okay at the time, I might finally upgrade from my launch unit.

lolmonade · « **Reply #12 on:** August 30, 2014, 10:41:33 AM »

I could see myself snatching up a copy of Xenoblade for the new 3DS, but waiting on the system itself, if just because out of fear that it may only be released in limited copies…that is, unless they decide to offer it on the e-shop, too.

Until there's a healthy offering of Nintendo games that can ONLY be played on the new version, I don't find it compelling enough to upgrade.

Stratos · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2014, 01:49:20 PM »

I'm going to post this one here as well. It is the Monster Hunter 4G version. I am hoping the bundle releases in the US as well.

tendoboy1984 · « **Reply #14 on:** August 31, 2014, 10:58:28 AM »

This New 3DS is nothing more than a stopgap system, and these features could have been saved for a true next-gen handheld. I'll still be buying one because existing games will likely run better with that CPU boost.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #15 on:** August 31, 2014, 11:32:38 AM »

I don't think Nintendo's getting enough credit for coming up with a way of including a second circle pad that makes no one happy. The people who didn't want one are upset that it's there at all and the people who did want it are upset at how half-assed the implementation is.

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 31, 2014, 12:00:33 PM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on August 31, 2014, 11:32:38 AM

I don't think Nintendo's getting enough credit for coming up with a way of including a second circle pad that makes no one happy. The people who didn't want one are upset that it's there at all and the people who did want it are upset at how half-assed the implementation is.

In other words they finally found a way to piss off their entire fanbase and people still think this company is not in the toilet?

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #17 on:** August 31, 2014, 12:49:33 PM »

I GOT IT!

This is the beginning of the "Nintendo Singular Future." This now means (New)3DS and WiiU have exactly the same amount and types of inputs. Couple that with GameCube Controller support for WiiU and the writing is on the wall. Another clue is the new ZR and ZL buttons are analog.

Could it be that when you purchase an eShop GameCube title, it will be playable on both WiiU and New3?

Adrock · « **Reply #18 on:** August 31, 2014, 01:02:30 PM »

Quote from: Nile Boogie Returns on August 31, 2014, 12:49:33 PM

This now means (New)3DS and WiiU have exactly the same amount and types of inputs.

Can't click the Circle Pad or C-stick.

Also, I haven't read that ZR and ZL are analog. Would you kindly provide a link?

Nile Boogie Returns · « **Reply #19 on:** August 31, 2014, 04:33:07 PM »

The link was a bad translation of the c-stick to read "Analog buttons" my bad. For the purpose of GameCube VC working on both, you don't need the circle pad/c-stick to click.

Mop it up · « **Reply #20 on:** August 31, 2014, 04:55:53 PM »

From what I've been able to find, "analogue button" is a somewhat accurate way to describe the C-Stick. It does not move like a stick or the slide pad, but is rather simply a button you press in that can measure the force and direction of your push. It works similarly to the trackpoint nubs that were popular on laptops in the 90s.

Hooray! Nintendo's getting closer to the times!

Stratos · « **Reply #21 on:** August 31, 2014, 05:16:28 PM »

I prefer those nubs to the touch pad mouse that modern laptops use so I should be quite happy with this one.

Triforce Hermit · « **Reply #22 on:** September 01, 2014, 08:54:35 AM »

Quote from: Mop it up on August 31, 2014, 04:55:53 PM

From what I've been able to find, "analogue button" is a somewhat accurate way to describe the C-Stick. It does not move like a stick or the slide pad, but is rather simply a button you press in that can measure the force and direction of your push. It works similarly to the trackpoint nubs that were popular on laptops in the 90s.

Hooray! Nintendo's getting closer to the times!

I absolutely hate that so much. Should have just found a way to stick another circle pad.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #23 on:** September 01, 2014, 10:04:18 AM »

That would have been trivial, just lower the 4 face buttons. Plenty of room.

famicomplicated · « **Reply #24 on:** September 12, 2014, 09:01:57 PM »

My biggest peeve is the forced choice of:

A) Nice coloured face buttons and changeable faceplates.......with a small screen
OR
B) Large screen, but "meh" buttons and no faceplates.

So in other words, I'm getting the New LL, but I'm not totally happy about it.

Also, someone REALLY needs to teach Nintendo what "new" means.
I would have preferred "Pro", seeing it has more advanced controls and faster processor.
Anyone with me on that?

nickmitch · « **Reply #25 on:** September 12, 2014, 09:30:19 PM »

They should've brought back "SP" or "DX".

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #26 on:** September 12, 2014, 09:32:47 PM »

Like I said, they did 3DS, they did 2DS, why the hell not call this new and improved 3DS the 4DS.

famicomplicated · « **Reply #27 on:** September 12, 2014, 09:50:19 PM »

Quote from: NWR_insanolord on September 12, 2014, 09:32:47 PM

Like I said, they did 3DS, they did 2DS, why the hell not call this new and improved 3DS the 4DS.

Why not jump on the Apple bandwagon and call it the 6DS Plus?

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #28 on:** September 12, 2014, 10:47:52 PM »

I'd say calling something the "New *blank*" definitely qualifies as jumping on the Apple bandwagon.

nickmitch · « **Reply #29 on:** September 13, 2014, 12:03:30 AM »

Lest we forget the "New iPad".

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #30 on:** September 13, 2014, 11:18:22 PM »

New iPad - new 3DS - New Coke! It all makes sense now. The new 3DS' stylus can be used as a straw to snort cocaine, the 3D effect will make your heart explode. It's actually the same console, you're just based and it seems way more intense.

nickmitch · « **Reply #31 on:** September 14, 2014, 12:54:28 AM »

3DS-s

For speed.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #32 on:** September 14, 2014, 07:52:37 PM »

I really can't wait for this to release and see if the rumors of the RAM increase are true. I personally, think it isn't true, and Nintendo was just experimenting with different forms.

But if it is true, then this upgrade is more than just a superficial one. And I think it will be more than just a 2 year stop gap. Though honestly, a 2 year stop gap is a long time.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #33 on:** September 15, 2014, 05:50:54 AM »

The DSi's the closest analog to this, and it was about two years from it to the 3DS. The thing there is, though, that two years from now is probably going to be around when Nintendo's going to want to release a Wii U successor, and I doubt they'd want to do both in the same year, unless they're going with BnM's mythical hybrid system.

Adrock · « **Reply #34 on:** September 15, 2014, 07:18:24 AM »

Nintendo released Gameboy Advance and GameCube in the same year so it wouldn't be without precedent. That said, it's probably not a terribly good idea considering how much trouble Nintendo is currently having supporting both Wii U and 3DS consistently. If New 3DS can give Nintendo an extra year or even two (though two is stretching it), there's no reason not to take that opportunity. Wii U's successor will need all the help it can get.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #35 on:** September 15, 2014, 07:26:39 AM »

I don't think it was a great idea to do GBA and GC in the same year, and with the way the market is today I think it'd be a worse idea now. The Wii U successor needs a strong start to have any hope of success, and Nintendo having to compete with itself in its first holiday season probably wouldn't help that.

Ceric · « **Reply #36 on:** September 15, 2014, 02:53:03 PM »

New 3DS ain't no GBA. That's an Apple to Oranges comparison.

Adrock · « **Reply #37 on:** September 15, 2014, 03:12:39 PM »

Quote from: Ceric on September 15, 2014, 02:53:03 PM

New 3DS ain't no GBA. That's an Apple to Oranges comparison.

I think you read the above posts wrong. No one is comparing New 3DS to GBA. insano said Nintendo wouldn't want to launch the successors to Wii U and 3DS in the same year, and I brought up how Nintendo has done this before. We agreed that it isn't a good idea.

Ceric · « **Reply #38 on:** September 15, 2014, 04:08:06 PM »

I missed the BnM Mythical Hybrid part. Yeah that be stupid. Like Gamboy Micro level.

azeke · « **Reply #39 on:** September 24, 2014, 02:24:16 AM »

Apparently n3DS launches November 21st in Australia.

They even had special regional Direct about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_uNYEo8YN3I

I wonder if play-asia wil carry it, i might import then, considering Australia is still PAL region...

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #40 on:** September 24, 2014, 03:53:52 AM »

Since this Australia Nintendo Direct kind of came out of nowhere I really would've liked to have seen a Sega Saturn "It's out right now!" launch.

nickmitch · « **Reply #41 on:** September 24, 2014, 11:09:11 PM »

Considering how you can just buy dongles to swipe credit cards on a phone, I think think that would be an epic idea to do at E3.

"And it's available today! Like right fucking now! Go, go! It's outside right now. No bullshit!"

And then like 5 booth babes would be critically injured, maybe two deaths.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #42 on:** September 24, 2014, 11:13:56 PM »

Just imagine the stampedes for the Wii at E3 2006, but with that. There wouldn't have been another E3 after that because of how high the death toll would've been.

nickmitch · « **Reply #43 on:** September 24, 2014, 11:23:45 PM »

But, in that moment, it would be really funny.

pokepal148 · « **Reply #44 on:** September 25, 2014, 08:13:53 PM »

You know something about the XL buttons really just rub me the wrong way...

Seriously Nintendo, either color the buttons or leave them as they were, don't try to go halfway with colored font, that just looks bad.

Adrock · « **Reply #45 on:** September 30, 2014, 07:39:25 PM »

I still like the colored font, not as much as the colored buttons of the standard New 3DS, but I still like them. I'm not sure why Nintendo made these odd choices. Why doesn't the XL version have replaceable cover plates? I probably would never change them myself if I had a New 3DS, but I still consider it to be bizarre.

Stratos · « **Reply #46 on:** September 30, 2014, 08:19:39 PM »

I'm hoping we will get an improved Netflix channel with the updated system. I was watching some yesterday and the load times can be atrocious.

nickmitch · « **Reply #47 on:** September 30, 2014, 11:02:51 PM »

I seconded the strangeness of the lack of faceplates on the New 3DS XL. I'd actually like a faceplate, especially if I could find some really neat ones.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #48 on:** September 30, 2014, 11:10:48 PM »

Nintendo probably didn't want to divide and confuse the market with face plates of different sizes. It is quite easy to know which plates fit the only model that they fit.

nickmitch · « **Reply #49 on:** September 30, 2014, 11:21:33 PM »

They clearly don't mind confusing people with their naming conventions.

pokepal148 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 01, 2014, 12:02:51 AM »

Am I the only one who finds the colored buttons to be tacky and ugly looking? I mean I feel like the gamecube pulls it off because of the weird shaped buttons but otherwise I prefer the more uniform button coloring scheme.

nickmitch · « **Reply #51 on:** October 01, 2014, 09:27:35 PM »

Probably.

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #52 on:** October 01, 2014, 10:30:16 PM »

I don't think so, N64 had different colored face buttons and it worked for it. So did SNES actually. My only complaint about this machine is it has forced me to decide to get the current model well the NES themed one, or wait till next year. I am probably going to just get the NES themed one anyways.

azeke · « **Reply #53 on:** October 01, 2014, 11:23:21 PM »

I am not looking at buttons when i am playing games.

But i do like colour coding because it makes it easier to distinguish buttons at a moment's glance, even more so within game's UI than on controller.

I am not even looking what letter button prompt on the screen is, i just look at the colour, if it's yellow i push upper face button (Y on Xbox controller), red - left face button (X on Xbox) and so on.

It doesn't help that i jump between Nintendo/Xbox/PC constantly, so i constantly forget which button is where. Colours are easier for me.

Sarail · « **Reply #54 on:** October 02, 2014, 08:38:45 PM »

I miss the convex/concave buttons of the SuperNES. That really stood out for me, and made it quite easy to distinguish button placement.

famicomplicated · « **Reply #55 on:** October 03, 2014, 08:36:39 PM »

Well the time is coming, I'm off to trade in my LL before the price drops dramatically!
Hopefully will be picking up an all-black New LL next week! #hypeGET!

Thanks to Danny for lending me his no-longer-used launch system for a temporary host for my games and NNID :-)
Of course I wouldn't have to do that if Nintendo had a proper account system....sigh

For those that are upgrading later this year (Aussies) or next year (Europeans/Americans) how do you intend to make the jump?

Shaymin · « **Reply #56 on:** October 03, 2014, 09:34:59 PM »

Picked up my matching microSD card today (64GB), gonna buy the New XL on Xenoblade day, do a home system transfer, then use the proceeds from trading in my XL to get the eShop version of Xenoblade.

Stratos · « **Reply #57 on:** October 03, 2014, 11:56:40 PM »

Quote from: famicomplicated on October 03, 2014, 08:36:39 PM

For those that are upgrading later this year (Aussies) or next year (Europeans/Americans) how do you intend to make the jump?

I plan to keep the old one as a Nexflix/Mario/PlantsVsZombies system for my wife as she likes to use it from time-to-time. So no transfer challenges for me.

Still hoping for the beautiful Monster Hunter LL system to come to western shores.

Shaymin · « **Reply #58 on:** October 04, 2014, 07:31:50 AM »

find that system incredibly attractive and would buy that in the event of its North American release.

azeke · « **Reply #59 on:** November 25, 2014, 10:29:20 PM »

Apparently you can set up your microSD as a network share (SMB):

Very cool. That means you don't have to take out our micro SD card out of the system when you want to copy your files or something.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #60 on:** November 25, 2014, 11:11:55 PM »

That is a nice feature. Not really the kind of thing you'd expect from Nintendo.

Shaymin · « **Reply #61 on:** November 26, 2014, 07:58:34 AM »

Given the hell involved in getting the microSD card out, I'm not surprised.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #62 on:** November 26, 2014, 02:19:59 PM »

And it should be especially useful now with homebrew out, so you can load stuff on there more easily.

famicomplicated · « **Reply #63 on:** November 26, 2014, 10:39:06 PM »

Quote from: Shaymin on November 26, 2014, 07:58:34 AM

Given the hell involved in getting the microSD card out, I'm not surprised.

You got that right! (Shameless self promotion)

Marionator · « **Reply #64 on:** December 29, 2014, 05:40:24 PM »

Hello! New to the forums.

Anyway, I am excited for the New 3DS. Will be purchasing the regular model myself. I hope they come to North America as soon as possible. I understand wanting to go through current inventory first, but I don't think they should wait too long either.

ejamer · « **Reply #65 on:** December 29, 2014, 06:04:11 PM »

Quote from: azeke on November 25, 2014, 10:29:20 PM

Apparently you can set up your microSD as a network share (SMB):
...
Very cool. That means you don't have to take out our micro SD card out of the system when you want to copy your files or something.

Oh wow, I'm sold!

On a whim, took a few low-quality photos with my 3DS XL a couple months back. But when I went to remove the SD, the spring broke. Guess what's not covered under warranty? It's ok though: Nintendo offered to fix it for just over a $100...

Ok, it wasn't that bad. They did agree to do it for less after some discussion, and while I'm not sure what the results will be yet hopefully things will turn out ok.

Still, being able to transfer files (music and photos mostly, but also possibly some save data) easily is a huge plus for me. This is a great feature and one that will definitely get used.

lolmonade · « **Reply #66 on:** February 08, 2015, 03:35:23 PM »

Displays of the new 3DS are popping-up at gamestops in my area, with a Majora's Mask demo. I was surprised how well the nubbin works for the camera. Something I initially found ridiculous I think will work pretty well overall. That said, I wouldn't expect it to work particularly great with something more twitchy like Call of Duty-esque FPS.

Evan_B · « **Reply #67 on:** February 09, 2015, 05:49:56 AM »

I am still convinced the nipple is a stupid idea, but increased loading times and no more circle pad pro make this system and EVENTUAL BUY WHEN THE NORMAL SIZED ONE COMES OUT.

Yeah, **** you, Nintendo. You're not getting my money that easily.

Ceric · « **Reply #68 on:** February 09, 2015, 03:51:33 PM »

Quote from: lolmonade on February 08, 2015, 03:35:23 PM

...
That said, I wouldn't expect it to work particularly great with something more twitchy like Call of Duty-esque FPS.

I think the Screen Resolution would nix that anyways.

azeke · « **Reply #69 on:** February 09, 2015, 09:57:48 PM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y88G3tp_f88

That system transfer procedure is WAY more complicated than it needs to be...

famicomplicated · « **Reply #70 on:** February 09, 2015, 11:11:36 PM »

Quote from: azeke on February 09, 2015, 09:57:48 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y88G3tp_f88

That system transfer procedure is WAY more complicated than it needs to be...

You just need my video. And a hammer.

Ceric · « **Reply #71 on:** February 10, 2015, 09:44:52 AM »

I'm taking bets if I get mine on Friday the 13th or Friday the 20th... Stupid Gamestop web exclusive and insane shipping prices... Garr....

Stratos · « **Reply #72 on:** February 10, 2015, 10:59:48 AM »

Well, my GS amiibo order is marked as "closed" because that has shipped to the store (called to make sure already). They have a pending hold on my money for the MH4 N3DS but it is not marked as "closed" so it has't shipped.

I'll report back if there are any changes.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #73 on:** February 10, 2015, 12:47:39 PM »

I was so set to buy a NEW 3DS this Friday and have been waiting and waiting for it to come out and now I find myself wondering if I should just wait two more months when Xenoblade Chronicles 3DS comes out on the chance there is a limited edition 3DS. Urgh. What to do, what to do...

Ceric · « **Reply #74 on:** February 10, 2015, 04:00:43 PM »

I'm getting the Special I wanted. The real question is do you have a compelling reason to buy one sooner? If not then I probably just wait.

Khushrenada · « **Reply #75 on:** February 10, 2015, 05:34:25 PM »

Compelling in the sense that both my shoulder triggers are nearly kaput. I can get a reaction out of the L button 1 in 20 times. I've been wanting to upgrade to an XL system since they came out as I still have a launch model and the smaller screens. I play my 3DS way more than my Wii U so faster loading times would be awesome and I play all my 3DS games in 3D so having a better 3D screen is also very appealing.

All that makes it very compelling. Yet, it might be nice to own a limited edition handheld for once. Although if I don't care for the design, I'll have waited for nothing. I don't think there was a limited edition in Japan though. If Japan doesn't have one, I don't think N/A gets one. I wish Nintendo would announce things sooner.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #76 on:** February 13, 2015, 05:36:05 PM »

If you haven't gotten your New 3DS yet but do have your MicroSD, I'd suggest you copy all your stuff onto the MicroSD now and use it in your current 3DS through an adapter. That's what I did earlier in the week, and because of that I was able to just pull the micro out of my old 3DS and slide it right into the new one after the transfer.

ShyGuy · « **Reply #77 on:** February 13, 2015, 07:59:58 PM »

I got mine suckas!! First 3DS, nothing to transfer. Went to six stores before I found it.

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #78 on:** February 19, 2015, 12:53:22 AM »

Few quick questions and them I will be getting either 3DS XL or New 3DS XL.

Do these support SD cards or do they have internal memory for eshop releases?

What games are natively playable, I know 3DS and New 3DS but is normal DS and DSi stuff playable? I am assuming no GBA without Virtual Console?

Do either of these support audio out?

If I get a New 3DS where do I get a charger and how much do they run for?

Are there actually any other games that work on New 3DS or is it just Xenoblade? Also is that game out yet?

Should I get the game on New 3DS or pick up a Wii copy for Wii U or has there been any confirmation on a Wii U VC release?

Do they play carts or whatever like DS or do 3DS games come on SD cards are they digital only whats the deal here?

I am planning on getting something either tomorrow or Friday, not sure what I will get but the plan is either 3DS XL or New 3DS Xl haven't completely decided yet.

Mop it up · « **Reply #79 on:** February 19, 2015, 01:19:34 AM »

-The normal system has internal memory and also an SD card, and the "new" model has internal memory and uses microSD cards. The internal is small, like 2GB or something and is filled mostly by the OS and updates. The normal XL includes a 4 GB SD card and the New 3DS XL includes a 4 GB microSD card. The systems can officially recognise SD or micro SD cards up to 32GB, but it's possible to use up to 128 if you format it properly.

-DS game cards and DSiWare are both fully playable on both the normal and New 3DS. Anything that may require an accessory that used the DS's GBA slot will of course not work (Guitar Hero for example).

-Both systems have a headphone jack, and there's a certain cable you could get to connect it to external speakers. I don't know what this cable might be called but I have one myself.

-The AC charger is MSRP $9.99. GameStop probably has them, other stores might too. Nintendo's Website certainly will.

-The only announced New 3DS exclusive is Xenoblade which will release in the US in April. A few games have functionality only when played on the New 3DS though; for example Smash Bros. can use the C-Stick for smash attacks, and Miiverse is available.

-No confirmation on Xenoblade on Wii U, but seems unlikely for now. The 3DS version isn't out yet so tough to say, but the game doesn't really add anything new so playing it on Wii would be fine. It'd also look better on Wii.

-Retail 3DS games come on game cards that are the same shape as DS game cards, which are slightly larger than normal SD cards. The only differences are that 3DS game cards are grey instead of black, and they have a little notch at the top to prevent them from being inserted into a DS or DSi. Most 3DS retail games are also available digitally from the eShop, but not all (usually older games). And there are of course some exclusive download games, like Wii U has and such.

azeke · « **Reply #80 on:** February 19, 2015, 01:48:56 AM »

For charging i recommend getting USB cable for DSi (3DS has the same charging slot). I got a cable for both DS Lite and DSi for like 2 bucks on play-asia or dealextreme when i left my OG 3DS charger in a hotel.

Shipping takes weeks though.

They should have done slot compatible with mini-USB and saved everyone a lot of headache...

marvel_moviefan_2012 · « **Reply #81 on:** February 20, 2015, 12:56:15 AM »

plan is to go to town tomorrow do my shopping then will report what I settle on. Thanks for the reply.

MegaByte · « **Reply #82 on:** February 20, 2015, 11:56:56 AM »

Quote from: azeke on February 19, 2015, 01:48:56 AM

For charging i recommend getting USB cable for DSi (3DS has the same charging slot). I got a cable for both DS Lite and DSi for like 2 bucks on play-asia or dealextreme when i left my OG 3DS charger in a hotel.

Shipping takes weeks though.

They should have done slot compatible with mini-USB and saved everyone a lot of headache...

Yeah, I got one of those and it blew the fuse on my DS Lite.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #83 on:** February 20, 2015, 05:01:25 PM »

I've had several 3DS USB cables without issue, but yeah, there's risk. You might want to go on Amazon and pay a bit more for one from a more established company. I got one that doesn't appear to be available anymore that included a USB cable plus adapters that you could use to charge it with a wall outlet or a car.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #84 on:** February 20, 2015, 06:41:27 PM »

I want the New 3DS XL. Saw it at Best Buy yesterday - huge improvement.

ClexYoshi · « **Reply #85 on:** February 21, 2015, 01:35:59 AM »

I was really hoping that the added processing juice would help the new 3DS XL run stuff like Pokemon smoother when the 3D is cranked up, but that very muchh does not seem to be the case.

Regardless, now I'm part of the cool kids club. that, and i was able to deck out all my trained amiibo with custom moves now to make them even more scary...!

Stratos · « **Reply #86 on:** February 21, 2015, 01:46:08 AM »

I don't think X/Y were programmed with the ability to use the extra processing power. It doesn't just get automatically thrown into older games. Did OR/AS have improvements? That released around the time N3DS came out in Japan so it might have been programmed with the ability to use the extra hardware power.

BranDonk Kong · « **Reply #87 on:** February 21, 2015, 09:56:04 AM »

My assumption would be that it is like the PSP where only games released after the updated hardware took advantage of the extra power.

Stratos · « **Reply #88 on:** February 21, 2015, 11:56:44 AM »

It would also depend on how the games were programmed. Nintendo has been known to build their games with an ability to detect and maximize available resources. I hear Perfect Dark emulated on a high end PC plays perfectly thanks to the extra ram. Though since these measures are put in place before they knew what sort of extra power could be available to them it would only be minor performance improvements.

ejamer · « **Reply #89 on:** February 24, 2015, 11:40:10 AM »

I've been thinking about this for a while... and have decided that I'll probably grab one of these new consoles eventually.

When Xenoblade is released for New 3DS XL, that will be the biggest incentive for me. But with Metal Gear Solid 3D and Resident Evil and Monster Hunter all sitting on my shelf, the desire to play those games using the improved (ie: supposedly more stable) 3D and extra control stick is very appealing.

This kind of got me thinking though: what older games will benefit most from having a New 3DS XL console? The three I list above are the only ones that came to mind... am I missing anything big? Seems like a few eShop games might have also offered Circle Pad Pro support?

Mop it up · « **Reply #90 on:** February 24, 2015, 06:49:08 PM »

Quote from: Stratos on February 21, 2015, 11:56:44 AM

It would also depend on how the games were programmed. Nintendo has been known to build their games with an ability to detect and maximize available resources. I hear Perfect Dark emulated on a high end PC plays perfectly thanks to the extra ram.

This isn't quite the case, no. I don't know the technical jargon, but basically this was just the result of a quirk with the way some games were programmed with the CPU and the way they handled slowdown. When the games are emulated on a system with a faster CPU (for example, Wii), they are able to run at a stable framerate due to this quirk. It doesn't even need to be an emulator, the CPU in a real N64 can be modded to be overclocked, which will have the same effect.

However, only some games worked like this, and others would just run at a faster game speed on emulators or with the overclock mod. One example of this is StarFox 64, which ran faster than normal on the Wii VC until it was later patched to run properly. This is actually one reason why N64 emulation has been difficult on Wii and probably one reason why we never saw more games and they're not bothering to try on Wii U.

The bottom line is that no N64 game was specifically programmed to work with better hardware, the quirk that allows some games to run smoothly was not intentional and causes most games to run worse.

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