Topic: Red Steel 2 Will Require Wii MotionPlus

[ShyGuy]

I think Red Steel 2 will be multiplatform

[EasyCure]

I think Red Steel 2 will be multiplatform

Someone knows something we don't.. GET HIM!

[BlackNMild2k1]

I think bundling should depend on how many games have already been bundled with the WMP by the time RS2 comes out (obviously a bundle would be sold in addition too the standalone game), if it's reasonable to expect everyone to have a WMP by then a bundle might just clutter the shelves.

But they want everyone to have more than just one M+ per Wii console out there.
They want the market to be flooded with these things so that 3rd parties have no worries when it comes to supporting the peripheral.
M+ is Nintendo's ace up the sleeve because it doesn't take much for them to add on but it takes a market splitting peripheral for the competition to match.

Besides they gotta sell as many of those things as possible now so that they can double dip in your pocket later when they release the Wiimote+ with M+ already built in. Its sound business strategy.

[Jonnyboy117]

MotionPlus bundling will probably drop off after the holiday season.  It makes sense to bundle it with several games up through the end of the year.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

This Lotion Puss thing is waaay better than the Expansion Pack.

Wii has a lot of customers, but there's still room for lots more.  This is the ticket to absorbing all those fringe self-proclaimed non-casuals.  Only then will Wii have succeeded in becoming everyone's 2nd Console.

[Flames_of_chaos]

I still think that a bundle will be required, since a company can't assume that each potential buyer will have the accessory. In Japan, the Monster Hunter G starter pack which includes a Classic Controller is the top selling SKU since the game requires a classic controller. Another fun Japan fact was when Smash Bros Brawl came out, there was a spike in demand for GameCube controllers.

[Ian Sane]

Wii Sports is already the highest selling game of all time

No offense but isn't that a complete BULL**** stat since the game is a mandatory purchase for every Wii owner outside of Japan?  Super Mario Bros. gets a lot of praise for a similar "accomplishment".  If I can't choose not to get it then the sales figures ulitmately mean completely NOTHING.

To stay on topic though I'll note that it is good that someone is taking the plunge and trying to make full use of M+ and not just let it be a feature.  Of course this is Ubisoft and its Red Steel so I'm not expecting this to be anything worthwhile.  But if M+ is going to amount to anything it has to be considered as standard as the remote itself.  Hopefully Nintendo will be smart enough to start including it with the remote, but they probably won't.  And they'll probably get away with that too.  But it has to start coming with every Wii though.  THAT is a given.

I'm hoping, not expecting but hoping, that M+ reveals the true potential of the remote.  I hope Nintendo releases games that use it that makes everyone wonder how we ever made games without it.  Right now the remote is FAR from that.  But if this could be the true "new standard" that would be really cool.

In Japan, the Monster Hunter G starter pack which includes a Classic Controller is the top selling SKU since the game requires a classic controller.

That's really cool to know.  I don't care at all about Monster Hunter G but if it's the cash cow in Japan everyone says it is this is pretty good news.  I think the classic controller is grossly underused and we get a lot of crappy waggle because of that.  But this could set the trend of games that require the classic controller and then we get games using the control option that suits them BEST instead of shoehorning everything into the remote regardless of whether it makes sense to or not.  Widespread classic controller penetration could mean an end to waggle.

[vudu]

I still think that a bundle will be required, since a company can't assume that each potential buyer will have the accessory.

You do realize that the MotionPlus will be sold by itself, right?

[Flames_of_chaos]

I still think that a bundle will be required, since a company can't assume that each potential buyer will have the accessory.

You do realize that the MotionPlus will be sold by itself, right?

Yes I do know. If a consumer wants a game that requires an accessory, that consumer will first check out if they can buy the game with that accessory  for a cheaper price. What would you prefer Red Steel 2 w/ Wii MotionPlus for $60 or Red Steel 2 for $50 and Wii MotionPlus for $20 -$25?

[ShyGuy]

Windows Solitaire is the highest selling game of all time.

[vudu]

Yes I do know. If a consumer wants a game that requires an accessory, that consumer will first check out if they can buy the game with that accessory  for a cheaper price. What would you prefer Red Steel 2 w/ Wii MotionPlus for $60 or Red Steel 2 for $50 and Wii MotionPlus for $20 -$25?

Bundle, of course.  All I was saying is that a bundle isn't required, just preferred.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Yes I do know. If a consumer wants a game that requires an accessory, that consumer will first check out if they can buy the game with that accessory  for a cheaper price. What would you prefer Red Steel 2 w/ Wii MotionPlus for $60 or Red Steel 2 for $50 and Wii MotionPlus for $20 -$25?

Bundle, of course.  All I was saying is that a bundle isn't required, just preferred.

I think that Nintendo might require a bundle to be available but I'm not 100% positive.

[Rize]

 you know, I might actually buy red steel ii because of this.  as long as the reviews are 80% or higher I'll strongly consider it. bravo

[Peachylala]

you know, I might actually buy red steel ii because of this.  as long as the reviews are 80% or higher I'll strongly consider it. bravo

Sorry, but the gaming 'media' has a agenda to uphold to. It's better to take what they say with a grain of salt.

I'm still bitter that Super Mario Galaxy didn't receive 10s from the media when it deserves it. I'm just an asshole that way. >/

[Ian Sane]

Super Mario Galaxy has a 97.28% average on GameRankings.  If you feel the gaming media has an agenda THAT is certainly not the game to point to.

[NWR_insanolord]

Super Mario Galaxy has a 97.28% average on GameRankings.  If you feel the gaming media has an agenda THAT is certainly not the game to point to.

For once I agree with Ian, and that's coming from a guy who thinks Galaxy is the best game of the last decade.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Super Mario Galaxy has a 97.28% average on GameRankings.  If you feel the gaming media has an agenda THAT is certainly not the game to point to.

For once I agree with Ian, and that's coming from a guy who thinks Galaxy is the best game of the last decade.

Still the major outlets freely gave GTAIV and MGSIV 10s. So I think the point is still valid.

[TJ Spyke]

Still the major outlets freely gave GTAIV and MGSIV 10s. So I think the point is still valid.

GTA IV earned every perfect score, it was easily the best game of 2008.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Still the major outlets freely gave GTAIV and MGSIV 10s. So I think the point is still valid.

GTA IV earned every perfect score, it was easily the best game of 2008.

Not even going to touch that one.

[Invincible Donkey Kong]

Still the major outlets freely gave GTAIV and MGSIV 10s. So I think the point is still valid.

GTA IV earned every perfect score, it was easily the best game of 2008.

Not even going to touch that one.

I'm sure its nose-diving sales illustrated the world continues to be impressed by it.

[KDR_11k]

Still the major outlets freely gave GTAIV and MGSIV 10s. So I think the point is still valid.

GTA IV earned every perfect score, it was easily the best game of 2008.

But most people consider it inferior to previous GTAs.

[ShyGuy]

Dippy controls keep GTAIV from being a 10. Also, brightness levels of the game were too low.

[Rize]

you know, I might actually buy red steel ii because of this.  as long as the reviews are 80% or higher I'll strongly consider it. bravo

Sorry, but the gaming 'media' has a agenda to uphold to. It's better to take what they say with a grain of salt.

So what is this agenda and how does it manifest in review scores?  Would you say the average Wii game has a score that's 5% lower than it ought to be? 10%?