If you like ska, you'll love Pain, seriously. Like I said, their lead singer, Dan, claims they aren't ska and that he doesn't even really like ska, but I find it's the best description for them if you had to use one- I mean, afterall, they do have several great trumpet players, an *excellent* saxaphone player (as is evident in their song Julie Said Futz), and a superb trombone player, on top of the guitar and bass and keyboard. I've said this before, but I seriously do not like any band even one hundredth as much as Pain, except for probabyl At the Drive-In. Great songs of theirs include Full Speed Ahead, Jabberjaw, Goggins, and The Comeback.