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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #50 on: August 15, 2009, 03:26:13 PM »
The sad state is Sony's PS3 isn't 100% realiable neither.  The laser goes (main problem) and there's alot of dead systems due to failed system update--I'm on my third freaking PS3 unit and it costed around $250 for repairs so far.  Sony charges $150+ for any repair nowadays and they don't sell the components to consumers directly so buying lasers cost $60ish depending on model.

Still on my orginal Xbox360 though, go figure.  The one console I bought the extended warranty for ($60 for 6 years--you get 3 years orginally so it extended it additional three).


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« Reply #51 on: August 24, 2009, 01:55:22 PM »
I'll likely buy a PS3 Slim. Then I'll have a PSWii60.

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« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2009, 02:38:31 PM »
Do you want to know the secret to getting your 360 replaced for free kraken? Tell them that it RRoD'ed even if it didn't. They don't check, and they honestly don't care. They know the system is essentially broken anyway.

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« Reply #53 on: August 25, 2009, 04:35:54 PM »
I don't really care, I am sick of having to send my system in and supporting a company that makes shoddy hardware. Already sold all my 360 stuff.

Happy to be a PSWii player. Plus I have a gaming PC for games like Mass Effect 2.
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« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2009, 11:36:08 AM »
What do you play the thing 24 hours a day?

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« Reply #55 on: August 27, 2009, 05:58:03 PM »
Well I'm surprised MS tried charging $170?  It's usually a flat $80 for repairs last I knew.  For $170 you can buy a New Arcade 360 for just $30 more.  Really doesn't make much sense.

GI just had a chart made up called "epic fail" and the Xbox 360 rated a whooping 40 percent.  Sony actually had nearly 10% and the WII had the lowest at 6%. 

But yeah if you do buy a PS3 wait for the price drop and still buy the extended warranty for the extra three years.  One laser failure costs $150+ taxes for Sony to fix so a $30 warranty is fairly cheap.

Thinking about the PS3 slim myself.  I'm going take my ole PS3 and make an arcade box out of it since I already modded it and I have some madcats fighting sticks.  All I need is a cheap LCD (42 inch screen).

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« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2009, 01:23:38 PM »
I have had a PS3 for over a year.
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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2009, 10:40:33 PM »
Hello Sony, you now are the maker of my console of choice!

Why not Nintendo?
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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2009, 10:34:01 AM »
Hello Sony, you now are the maker of my console of choice!

Why not Nintendo?

Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore. I mean what games would I be playing with only a Wii this fall? Mario Bros Wii.
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« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2009, 11:09:26 AM »

Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore. I mean what games would I be playing with only a Wii this fall? Mario Bros Wii.

Not this stupid argument again....
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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #60 on: August 30, 2009, 11:51:25 AM »

Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore. I mean what games would I be playing with only a Wii this fall? Mario Bros Wii.

Not this stupid argument again....

I am not arguing I am telling my honest opinion of why.
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« Reply #61 on: August 30, 2009, 03:47:42 PM »
So you say the industry was built on kiddie casual games from the NES?  That would make sense...

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« Reply #62 on: August 30, 2009, 04:08:27 PM »

Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore. I mean what games would I be playing with only a Wii this fall? Mario Bros Wii.

 Not this stupid argument again....

I am not arguing I am telling my honest opinion of why.

No, it is a really stupid sentiment and is PR straight from the mouths of Nintendo's competitors.  The worst part is it isn't even true, Nintendo's made like 22 games for the Wii that fit the standard definition of games, either continuations of pre-existing, Pre-2004 "Casual Crisis" series or games with characters gamers already know about, with only about 6 or so games aimed at the non-gamers.  On the DS, the original "Zomg casual games ruining everything" console, it's like 50 core games to 12.  It's not even CLOSE to this idea that Nintendo has canceled all their core games in favor of non-gamers.

In fact this is so bad I suggest it become a bannable offense.  The argument just doesn't stand up to rudimentary facts and any continuation of it is either a troll attempt or an inability to process new facts, both of which are really undesirable for a forum.
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« Reply #63 on: August 30, 2009, 04:23:10 PM »
As far as I'm concerned, Nintendo was never "hardcore-centric". They've always created games which are relatively simplistic by design and aimed at a wide audience. Nintendo hasn't changed.

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« Reply #64 on: August 30, 2009, 06:27:42 PM »
Just saying I will be getting one game for my Wii in the last 4 month of the year. That game is New Super Mario Bros Wii. No where near enough software that I am interested in to have Nintendo be my favorite console maker.

For the rest of this year for my PS3 I am interested in Modern Warfare 2, The Beatles: Rock Band(with great looking graphics), Uncharted 2, and Grand Turismo 5, Assassin's Creed II, Batman: AA.
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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #65 on: August 30, 2009, 06:42:27 PM »
I personally think that all of this hardcore, casual, and whatever labeling crap is garbage. To me there will be mainstream games which are popular and appeal to a broad audience such as Mario, Sonic, Brain Age, Halo, Mario Kart, Uncharted, Wii Fit, Madden, Guitar Hero, Rock Band and your niche/obscure games which appeal to a specific fanbase or audience such as Shin Megami Tensei, Rune Factory, Mad World, Disgaea, Mystery Dungeon games.

I remember someone made a time line about this labeling nonsense:

Quote from: Neogaf
1970s - 1994:
- The terms "Non-Game/Casual/Core" do not exist
- Nintendo is awesome (not for Sega-fans)

1994 - 2003:
- The terms "Non-Game/Casual/Core" do not exist
- Nintendo is kiddy

2004:
- The terms "Non-Game/Casual/Core" do not exist
- Nintendo is still kiddy
- "PSP is going to outsell the NDS by 5 trillion units"
- "Nintendo is going 3rd Party"

2005:
- Sony-fans have to eat a lot of crows
- NDS becomes the super-seller
- Brain Age, Nintendogs & Co. are successful
- Iwata mentions the term "Non-Game" to describe Animal Crossing, which is also a great success
- So, let's bad-mouth this all!
-> NDS is only successful because of Non-Games
-> The only games that're doing well on the NDS are Non-Games
-> Everyone is going to  create only Non-Games now
-> Nintendo is going to create only Non-Games now
-> Non-Games are destroying the industry
-> Nintendo is destroying the industry

2006:
- "****, NDS is great, everything sells well, industry gets bigger and bigger"
- Wii gets released
-> Wii is only successful because of Non-Games
-> The only games that're doing well on the Wii are Non-Games
-> Everyone is going to create Non-Games now
-> Nintendo is going to create only Non-Games now
-> Non-Games are destroying the industry
-> Nintendo is destroying the industry

Irony fact: "Gamers always wanted a big industry in which everyone plays, now they're crying around"

2007:
- The term "Non-Game" gets replaced by the term "Casual-Game"
- Everyone uses the term "Core-Gamer" to describe themselves (or in 2006 already)
- Peak year of discussions/posting bullshit

2008:
- Like 2007

2009:
- Finally, people are not talking that much about this topic and I hope this ends soon...
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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #66 on: August 31, 2009, 10:51:12 AM »
The point remains that the PS3 has more games that appeal to kraken is interested in.

I find myself in a similar situation and it's quite frustrating to be told your opinion is purely PR garbage when it is simply an honest appraisal of what you like.

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« Reply #67 on: August 31, 2009, 12:08:35 PM »
It doesn't help that the honest opinion is poorly articulated in such a way to frame itself just like pure PR garbage.  There are better ways to deliver your message, and I haven't seen it here.  If it's deliberate then that elevates it to a new issue.
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Re: Good Bye Microsoft
« Reply #68 on: August 31, 2009, 01:51:09 PM »
Sorry kraken, but apparently your opinion is wrong.  ;)  I didn't know that was possible ....
Why must all things be so bright? Why can things not appear only in hues of brown! I am so serious about this! Dull colors are the future! The next generation! I will never accept a world with such bright colors! It is far too childish! I will rage against your cheery palette with my last breath!

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« Reply #69 on: August 31, 2009, 02:03:30 PM »
LOL!

I didn't know an opinion could be wrong either!

Deliver my message in another way other than: I want this one game on Wii and I want these 6-7 games on PS3?
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« Reply #70 on: August 31, 2009, 03:48:57 PM »
Right-on, that's what we mean.

But earlier it wasn't without the fluff that started a blaze.
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« Reply #71 on: August 31, 2009, 03:50:18 PM »
Sorry kraken, but apparently your opinion is wrong.  ;)  I didn't know that was possible ....

Opinions aren't wrong, but they can be poorly reasoned and invalid =D

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« Reply #72 on: August 31, 2009, 04:00:32 PM »
Opinions aren't wrong, but they can be poorly reasoned and invalid =D

But that wasn't what was argued.  Kraken said the PS3 is now his main gaming system and he got nothing but guff.  Why do we care if he likes PS3 better than Wii?
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« Reply #73 on: August 31, 2009, 04:13:09 PM »
Because Nintendo is not hardcore centric anymore...

This is where things took off, unintentional forum arson, maybe.  His PS3 inclination wasn't getting attacked, if you followed.  Saying "I want this one game on Wii and I want these 6-7 games on PS3" is pretty plain and wouldn't have gotten anyone's reaction, that's a matter of quantities on his wishlist for the year.  HOWEVER, he kicked things off with a loaded "PR bullsquash" statement, and in NWR fashion, NWR Staff jumped on it.  fire in the hole!  hit the deck!

A part of the statement was clear PR garbage.  It could've been left out without changing the point ("I only plan on getting Mario for the remainder of the year").  Why include the PR garbage to begin with?
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« Reply #74 on: August 31, 2009, 08:57:14 PM »
Am I seriously not allowed to have an opinion? Because for the past year and a half there has been not that much on the Wii to entertain me. And a total of none from Nintendo. Last game that got me really excited and I played for more than a few weeks that was from Nintendo was Brawl. Last March....

Yes the upcoming year looks awesome, but that's not right now. For me personally there has been little support from Nintendo for games that I want. Its the truth and that doesn't look to be changing until next year.
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