Topic: Reggie Talks About All Things Nintendo

[couchmonkey]

Just read the full article, may as well bitch about everything at one time:

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And the second point, in terms of having to have new friend codes for every game, quite frankly, what that does is put control in the hands of the gamer. So there are some people that I want to let into my house with Animal Crossing and others that I don’t, and that friend code set up allows me to manage that title by title.

This is an excuse.  They could just as easily include an "invisibility" feature like any IM program.

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...they're providing a level of horsepower technology that not many consumers want.

Please tell that to everyone who doubled their money selling Xbox 360s on Ebay.  But I do like this one:

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Now, we’ve also been quite clear that there are innovations inherent in Revolution that we will be sharing ongoing...I have seen blog entries on your site and other sites that criticize us for that, but quite frankly, it’s just good business. In terms of letting the consumer know what’s involved and sharing that information all the way up until launch.

Reggie's got me more confident about the "release details all year" strategy now.  Show some games at E3, and keep revealing new info all the way up to launch to keep the hype level high.

[hudsonhawk]

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Originally posted by: StrellA DSL SP down the line?  Oh well.  Every console company (with the exception of Microsoft, because they hardly know what the hell they are doing) redesigns their stuff these days.  Sony will probably release a PSPL at some point.

I don't think they'll call it the PSPL though.  Let's see how they've done this in the past:

PS1 redesign = PSOne
PS2 redesign = PSTwo

Hmm, okay, so they spell out the last character in the system for the redesign.  Therefore

PSP redesign = PSPee.

[Strell]

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Originally posted by: couchmonkey
I hope Reggie's mistaken about having to use GameCube accessories to play GameCube games - that's foolish.  How is Zelda going to sell Revolutions if people have to buy an outdated controller to play it?  Anyone who already owns GameCube controllers also owns a system to play the Twighlight Princess on...so this seems bad.  It's bad for the backwards compatibility feature in general - not as bad as Microsoft's pathetic backwards compatibility, but not a lot better either.

I hope everyone (Nintendo included) is listening to this man, because this is a devastatingly bad idea.  Not for people like me who have GC controllers, but because it would PISS OFF EVERYONE ELSE.

[Ian Sane]

"The fact that there's no 'frankly no release date' for USA for the DS Lite means we're not getting it for ages."

I question if there's even a market for it here yet.  DS's are selling out in Japan but here in North America there's much stiffer competition from the PSP.  Or maybe NOA feels that the constant redesigns are going to make people scared to trust Nintendo portables.  Japanese and American consumers have different attitudes and NOA might just think that this isn't a good idea for the American market.

"...they're providing a level of horsepower technology that not many consumers want."

This statement is just pure Nintendo excuses.  We heard this same sort of BS about what consumers don't want regarding CDs and online gaming.  Nintendo's the least relevent console maker in the world.  They have no business telling us what consumers want or don't want because they don't have any f*cking clue.  If they knew what they were talking about they wouldn't be the last place console.  Nintendo is skimping on hardware because they're cheapos.  That's why they skimp on anything.  Consumers ALWAYS want better technology.  That's the whole reason why we even tolerate the creation of new consoles.  No one wants to pay more money for a meager upgrade.  I don't want to pay good money for the Rev if the only reason those game aren't on the Cube is because of the controller.

Now maybe the competition is going too far technology-wise to the point where they're unaffordable.  But that's a price issue not a technology issue.  Nintendo's got to learn that this "we've decided this is what you want" routine is very negative towards their image.  If they focused more on price and didn't downplay technology it would make them look way better.

What sounds better?  "...they're providing a level of horsepower technology that not many consumers want." or "They're pricing their console at a level higher then what the typical consumer can afford.  We're dedicated to making sure the Rev offers innovation and great games and next generation hardware at an affordable price."

Focus on the price but don't downplay the hardware.  If they honestly didn't say anything then no one would assume the hardware is weak and realistically if the screenshots look as good as Nintendo says they will then no one would notice.  But they dodged the specs question and are constantly downplaying technology and revealed the lack of HD support prior to showing any screens and now everone thinks the Rev's just a Gamecube with a remote.  Maybe it is only that but they could have done a WAY better job at hiding that.  Nintendo's the only company I can think of who immediately draws attention to their weaknesses and keeps their strengths hidden.

[KDR_11k]

hudsonhawk: There is no PSTwo. There is a PS2 Model 7000x, however.

Ian:
Consumers ALWAYS want better technology.

Yes but customers (please, consumer sounds like sheep) also want low prices. The rev offers a new control scheme and better technology, just not THAT much better technology.

[Ceric]

"First, Nintendo is blessed with the best, most dynamic, most vocal community of players and fans of any brand in this space."

Best.  Quote.  In the entire thing.  Mostly because he used the word blessed.

[hudsonhawk]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
hudsonhawk: There is no PSTwo. There is a PS2 Model 7000x, however.

Hmm, my mistake.  Everyone refers to the tiny redesigned PS2 as the "PStwo" - I thought it was the official name.

It was a juvenile throwaway joke anyway - forgot to hit the "Fact Check" button.

 

[Smash_Brother]

Frankly, I'm stunned Sony hasn't announced a "PSPTS" or something with a touchscreen and microphone.

Also, is anyone even listening when I point out that Sony releases BETTER versions of their consoles throughout the lifespan? Seriously, one batch of PS2s doesn't have 480p support and the next batch DOES.

I'll never understand why Sony fans tolerate that sort of crap...

[MaryJane]

Sorry for being slow on the uptake, but i've never seen the Nintendo On video either, so Reggie and I are in the same boat. although i'm still fishing for release dates and rev info, and he caught a tiger shark. anyhow. a lot of controversy about the whole what consumers want comment he made. i don't want hi-def graphics. i have a fairly new t.v so it maybe it wouldn't matter too much to me, but a friend of mine has a pretty old t.v (i'm surprised it's not black and white that's how old it is) and an xbox360 while the graphics, movements, backgrounds look good, the picture itself is off, it gets blurry at times, and certain things become unrecognizable at least in perfect dark and nba. so i prefer to have standard 480i graphics for myself and 480p for peeps who have progressive scan compatible t.v's. maybe its just me but he wasn't totally wrong :-). oh can i get a link to that On video pretty please ;-).  

[vudu]

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A Miyamoto idea being cancelled? Nuh uh!

How about Marionette?  Not exactly cancelled, but it was never released.  You could argue that it was more of a tech demo than a game (which is was) but it's still a Miyamoto project that was never released.

[ThePerm]

and the  funny thing is psp looks like a gba

lol, and  dont  think  marionette was even officially announced.  It  was  trademarked though..

[TheYoungerPlumber]

Smash_Brother, Nintendo released a version of the GameCube WITHOUT 480p support.  Isn't that *worse* than what Sony did?

[Plugabugz]

"I question if there's even a market for it here yet. DS's are selling out in Japan but here in North America there's much stiffer competition from the PSP. Or maybe NOA feels that the constant redesigns are going to make people scared to trust Nintendo portables. Japanese and American consumers have different attitudes and NOA might just think that this isn't a good idea for the American market."

I'm certain consumer attitudes differ from one continent to the next, but there's a time shift between the rest of the world and europe according to nintendo.
If Japan is getting it in the next few months (release date i forget), then we're getting it in 2007 - It would have been nice if he said "and europe" in that response about the DS Lite release date. Europe only has a populus of 700m, not much profit to make there.

[The Omen]

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I hope Reggie's mistaken about having to use GameCube accessories to play GameCube games - that's foolish. How is Zelda going to sell Revolutions if people have to buy an outdated controller to play it?

Most people who are dying for Zelda have a GC already.  Others can buy the controller for $5.  Big deal.

[Renny]

It's the "PS2two". The box refers to it as both. I want Zelda.

[KDR_11k]

The box says PS2 and Playstation 2 under it and has the word "two" in a corner, roughly 20cm away from the PS2 text. Calling it PS2two because of it is like calling the GC "IBM microprocessor technologyNintendo Game Cube" because of the text in the corner.

[Smash_Brother]

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Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
Smash_Brother, Nintendo released a version of the GameCube WITHOUT 480p support.  Isn't that *worse* than what Sony did?

Not really.

If you want the support, used cubes go for cheaper and, in this case, they're not screwing the early adopter but rather the late adopter. Even then, the late adopter is paying $99 whereas the early adopter likely paid $200 or $150.

[hudsonhawk]

Of course, then the late adopter has to find component video cables because Nintendo decided to stop making them.

I have to wonder, if demand for HD was really so low, how come they sell for $50+ on eBay?  

[Renny]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
The box says PS2 and Playstation 2 under it and has the word "two" in a corner, roughly 20cm away from the PS2 text. Calling it PS2two because of it is like calling the GC "IBM microprocessor technologyNintendo Game Cube" because of the text in the corner.

Then why is the "two" there at all? It's a moniker of their creation. I just melded the contradicting names into something reflective of their piss-poor ability to differentiate specific products. (Something all manufacturers seem to suffer from today.) And it's uncompromisingly hilarious, so stop splitting ass-hairs.