Author Topic: RetroActive #11 Poll -- Second Chance Edition (Read 17501 times)

Jonnyboy117 · « **on:** January 16, 2010, 01:27:47 PM »

The theme for this edition of RetroActive is "Second Chance". The nominees were all runners-up in previous, console-specific polls. There was a tie for second place in the Super Nintendo poll, hence the presence of two games from that platform. Also note that Bonk's Revenge actually came in third on the TurboGrafx-16 poll, but the true second-place game, Cho-Aniki, has been disqualified under our "Three Strikes" rule. (Cho-Aniki was also included in two other early polls.)

All five of these games are available on Virtual Console at the usual prices.

Please use this thread to discuss the nominees and argue for your favorite. The poll results will remain hidden until voting has ended.

Killer_Man_Jaro · « **Reply #1 on:** January 16, 2010, 02:01:17 PM »

Woo. Now this is a poll I can get on board with.

I would like a good excuse to try out Bonk's Revenge, so I'm voting for that. Bonk: Brink of Extinction is coming to WiiWare in a couple of months and I don't even know if I should be excited about it. No better way to find out than to play one of its ancestors.

If I am totally honest with myself though, I'll bet that Super Mario RPG wins. That's not so bad; it's still fun to play through; that said, I feel the Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario series have surpassed it in most respects. Plus, nearly everyone has already played SMRPG. It's nice to go for something most people haven't experienced and it isn't such a risk when it's something well renowned like Bonk's Revenge (which is meant to be the best of the TG-16 trilogy if I'm not mistaken).

Mop it up · « **Reply #2 on:** January 16, 2010, 02:11:59 PM »

I voted for Super Mario RPG: Legend of The Seven Stars, though I wouldn't mind if StarTropics won. I don't own the other games or systems.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 16, 2010, 02:51:51 PM »

Out of the ones listed I have Star Tropics,Comix Zone and Super Mario RPG.Haven't played Actraiser or Bonk's Revenge yet.

Jonny what happens to the losers of the poll? Is there a chance of them coming back in another poll?

Jonnyboy117 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 16, 2010, 03:36:28 PM »

Quote from: Maxi on January 16, 2010, 02:51:51 PM

Jonny what happens to the losers of the poll? Is there a chance of them coming back in another poll?

The losers of this poll do have a chance to come back eventually, although it would probably be a while. Super Mario RPG might be on its third chance, but I'd have to confirm that.

Halbred · « **Reply #5 on:** January 16, 2010, 04:06:21 PM »

Totally going with Super Mario RPG. I've been looking for an excuse to play that again.

vudu · « **Reply #6 on:** January 16, 2010, 05:39:32 PM »

Super Mario RPG is boring. It hasn't held up well, especially compared to the other Mario RPGs available. It's also been discussed to death on RFN.

ActRaiser is unique--and I'd love an excuse to finally play it--but it's already been discussed on RFN several times.

Bonk's Revenge is a fun game, but it's pretty much a straight-up early 90s mascot platformer, so there's not a whole lot to talk about.

My vote's for either Star Tropics or Comix Zone. I haven't decided yet. Probably wait until the poll gets closer to ending so I can see which has a chance of winning (assuming either can compete with the juggernaut that is sure to be Mario RPG).

NWR_DrewMG · « **Reply #7 on:** January 16, 2010, 08:38:48 PM »

I think Super Mario RPG holds up far better than the Paper Mario series, personally.

Halbred · « **Reply #8 on:** January 16, 2010, 08:58:11 PM »

Hell yes it does. Paper Mario is...Fisher Price's My First RPG. Aside from Superstar Saga, SMRPG is my favorite Mario-themed RPG (because there's been so many).

Stratos · « **Reply #9 on:** January 17, 2010, 05:23:03 AM »

I voted for Star Tropics. I think some people talking about the difficulty of Comix Zone turned me off of that one. I never finished playing through SMRPG when I got it on VC so I'll probably just pick up where I left off if it wins.

I knew I had some points sitting around on the shop for a reason! I have gone in and almist spent it several times but I kept thinking it had a specific reason for being there.

Killer_Man_Jaro · « **Reply #10 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:54:22 AM »

Quote from: Halbred on January 16, 2010, 08:58:11 PM

Hell yes it does. Paper Mario is...Fisher Price's My First RPG. Aside from Superstar Saga, SMRPG is my favorite Mario-themed RPG (because there's been so many).

Honestly, Super Mario RPG couldn't be more aptly named. That's all it is: an RPG with Mario. I'm happy that Paper Mario and its successors only contain light RPG elements because, at heart, they are puzzle platformers. That's the bulk of the gameplay and I personally find it more interesting.

Don't get me wrong, I like SMRPG. However, bear in mind that whatever gets picked is talked about at length twice on RFN. As Vudu pointed out, it has already been discussed ad nauseum on earlier episodes. I fear discussion on it could quickly lean towards "been there, done that".
Hey, you know what hasn't been talked about yet and hasn't been played by many people? Bonk's Revenge.

BeautifulShy · « **Reply #11 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:58:22 AM »

I'm waiting on Jonny to let me know if Mario RPG is on its 3 chance before voting. If it is than I'm voting for it. The other games will have another chance.

Stratos · « **Reply #12 on:** January 17, 2010, 04:01:21 PM »

Its on its second run. I'm pretty sure the SNES poll was its first chance.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #13 on:** January 17, 2010, 07:00:31 PM »

Super Mario RPG is the worst of the Mario RPG games (the Paper Mario games are so much more fun and the Mario & Luigi games are really fun too), but it's still a good game. In the future I would like to talk about Comix Zone and StarTropics, but for this poll I am going with Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars.

happyastoria · « **Reply #14 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:29:57 PM »

two words: Comix Zone

- NintendoFan - · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:40:03 PM »

StarTropics all the way. I quite enjoy the Americanized Zelda-style.

GearBoxClock · « **Reply #16 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:41:14 PM »

Man, I just bought Cho Aniki a few days ago. I'd love to hear your guy's thoughts on it. Oh well

Jet Pilot · « **Reply #17 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:53:31 PM »

Super Mario RPG has dated visuals and is a slow, boring and repetitive game. In addition the game is just too long.

Actraiser has beautiful 16-bit visuals with a soundtrack that pushes the SNES to its limit. In addition, the gameplay combines two genres for an exciting game with an enjoyable story. The simulation is fairly basic but serves its purpose in the story well. The platforming has crisp controls, well designed levels and challenging bosses. The length of the game is perfect as well. Long enough to be a great experience, but no so long that it feels like the developers put in filler material just to extend the length of the game.

I vote for Actraiser.

broodwars · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2010, 09:32:12 PM »

Whatever does get picked, I hope it's neither Actraiser nor Startropics because those games have been discussed to death on this podcast. Bonk's Revenge I couldn't care less about (I wasn't interested in the TG-16 when it came out, and I'm even less interested now), and Comix Zone is just cruelly difficult (but I would play it if it won, as I already own it). I chose Super Mario RPG as the lesser of all evils. It's by far my favorite of the Mario RPGs (and I'd argue it's the only good console Mario RPG), but I wouldn't be likely to play it now since I already gave it a replay back in September.

AV · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2010, 10:12:53 PM »

COMIX ZONE FTW !!!!!!!!

Sorry Jonny. I am curious what you guys think about the 'puzzles'.

Jonnyboy117 · « **Reply #20 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:10:59 PM »

I think some people are exaggerating how much we have discussed any of these games. I know most of them have come up in New Business, probably when they first hit Virtual Console, but that means we spent at most ten minutes discussing them, probably over a year ago. The great thing about RetroActive is that we can get all four crew members, plus the listeners, playing together and discussing the detailed mechanics, aesthetic choices, progression, etc.

TheYoungerPlumber · « **Reply #21 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:32:58 PM »

I'd be happy with any of these except Comix Zone.

TJ Spyke · « **Reply #22 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:42:22 PM »

I am not sure how much fun Comix Zone would be. I actually did own the Genesis original (I don't know if I still have it) and I played it on Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection. It's just so frustratingly cheap and difficult. I never could get that far in the game. I liked the look of the game though.

MarioIsFrench · « **Reply #23 on:** January 18, 2010, 12:15:18 AM »

Bonk's Revenge! Bonk's Revenge! Bonk's Revenge!

freezestar · « **Reply #24 on:** January 18, 2010, 02:56:07 PM »

I vote choaniki and you can't stop me!

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