Topic: Mario Kart Mafiia: Day Five, Rainbow Road!

[DAaaMan64]

Welcome to day 5 of Mario Kart Mafia! Woo hoo!  GREAT JOB All who have made it here.

HOWEVER, now begins another's death! Who's shall it be? 




Plugabugz to provide the next update in a few hours!

[Plugabugz]

Vudu has been voted out at 4 votes. Putting Chanel No. 5 in his tank isn't really a good idea. He was the GREEN Player.

But before he died, he made his final blow to everybody and activated his POW. Everybody's items and item uses have been randomised.

THE ENDGAME CONTINUES!

If the red player dies, the blue team wins.
If all the remaining blue players die, the red team wins.

The POW block was used.
A mystery box was put in front of someone.
A red shell was used on someone.
Two banana's was used on the same person.

Blue Team: 3
Red Team: 1

All PM's confirming new targets and items to sent out now.

[Plugabugz]

THREE Players are near death.

[Spak-Spang]

Vote Wandering

Great Game you played...but you slipped.  And I realize now I should have seen it all along. 

But, who would think you would have killed 2 of your team mates to hide...did you know who they were, or did this Mafia type mean even you made mistakes?

[Khushrenada]

Plugabugz could you do me a favor to clear something up? In your rules where you list all the items, you show the lightning bolt in red. So, are the items team specific? If so, why did I get a lightning bolt when I'm blue.

[stevey]

Vote Khushrenda!

[Plugabugz]

Plugabugz could you do me a favor to clear something up? In your rules where you list all the items, you show the lightning bolt in red. So, are the items team specific? If so, why did I get a lightning bolt when I'm blue.

Because i made a booboo. It should have been the other way around, but i accidentally gave a Red member an item for Blue. To balance it i gave an item for Blue to Red.

[Khushrenada]

Thank you.

Therefore, whoever used the star is Red. And whoever used the lightning is Blue. Guess what I used? The lightning.

Don't you hate it when I'm right stevey?

[Spak-Spang]

hmmmmmmm....

Only one way to handle this.

Khushrenda or Stevey are Red.  Period.

We have 3 Blue Members.

We vote out one of the two above...and use our items against the other.

There is no way Red can kill all Blue members...So we just have to work together.

Sorry, Khushrenda AND Stevey both have to die tonight. 

[stevey]

Fun fact: I had 3x bananas when the star was used

A blue shell was used. - Spak-Spang >>> On red -1
A red shell was used. - Dasmos >>> on Vudu -1
A banana was used offensively. - Stevey >>>on Vudu -1
A mystery box was used. - Khushrenada >>>on (UB?) (not khush) -1

Someone activated their star. -
BOO was used and it stole an item from someone else. - Vudu on Spak? >>>Vudu +1
The Lightning was used, cancelling out the votes of a team. - Khushrenada
A banana was used offensively on someone. - Stevey >>> UB (red shell block)

A blue shell was used. - Khushrenada >>> on red -1
A banana was used offensively. - Stevey >>> on Vudu -1
A cloud was placed upon someone. - Spak-Spang >>> on Dasmos -1 -1

The POW block was used. Vudu
A mystery box was put in front of someone. Spak-Spang >>> Spak-Spang -1
A red shell was used on someone. Stevey >>> Khush (block by bananas)
Two banana's was used on the same person. Khush >>> Stevey

No, Ethier Wandering or Spak have to be red. Since it was Spak who had item stolen from him (and a cloud remove a point) than it must be Wandering (or still Khush if he got Plugabugz too cover his ass)

[Khushrenada]

Well, it's been a good game but like any Mario Kart game, it really comes down to the items.

A blue shell was used. - Spak-Spang
A red shell was used. - Dasmos
A banana was used offensively. - Stevey
A mystery box was used. - Khushrenada

Someone activated their star. - (Red Team)
BOO was used and it stole an item from someone else. - Vudu (who used the coin)
The Lightning was used, cancelling out the votes of a team. - Khushrenada
A banana was used offensively on someone. - Stevey

A blue shell was used. - Khushrenada
A banana was used offensively. - Stevey
A cloud was placed upon someone. - Spak-Spang

The POW block was used. - Vudu
A mystery box was put in front of someone. - Wandering
A red shell was used on someone. - Spak-Spang
Two banana's was used on the same person. - Khushrenada


So, on Day 2, the star was used by the Red Team. I could not have used the star since I'm not green and I had an item, the lightning bolt FOR BLUE. Stevey could not be Red since he had bananas and was not green with two items. Spak-Spang could not be Red since he had the coin and it was stolen from him. And he was not green with two items. Therefore, the only person left is Wandering.

Ah Wandering. How I have gunned for you often. And yet, somehow my attention was always diverted. But not this time. Time for the victory lap.

Vote Wandering

[Khushrenada]

Good job stevey. You realized the item usage of day 2 points towards Wandering as well.

Look. I had a little fun yesterday claiming to be Green simply because everyone kept saying that they were afraid I was green. I thought it would be funny to make everyone think their worst fears came true. But fun's over now. Time to get to business.

[stevey]

Did Spak's cloud get effected by the nights pow?

And how were 2 banana used? I was under the impression they could only be fired one at a time...

7 - 3x items (such as 3x red shells/bananas) can only be used once per day. For instance, if you fire one at Person A, and 2 other people fire items at you, then you will be protected against those both but as such have depleted all your shells.

[Khushrenada]

So stevey, since you know it has to be Spak or Wandering that is red, why don't you change your vote?

[Spak-Spang]

I had the Mystery Box originally, and I used it on Wandering...but the items were mixed up.

Vudu did use his Boo to steal my coin. 

I am beginning to see Stevey and Spak-Spang are not RED.  Period. 

If Khush got the Lightning on accident then surely he would cancel Blue's votes to protect red...but he canceled red's votes to and we got 2 Red death's in a row.

This points to Khush being blue...but of all players I know he is manipulative enough to do that for his own gain...so lets look at some more...

OK.  Stevey is off my list.  Sorry I kept you on it so long.

Wandering or Khush.

The vote seems to be pointing to Wandering..so I will vote for him...but I am skeptical enough to still point out targeting Khush, would not be a bad plan to ensure Blue victory.

[wandering]

hhahaha you're brilliant, Khush. I am seriously astounded.

Here's what really happened. Khush never had lightning. On day one, Plugabugz screwed up and gave me lightening, even though I'm blue.



Then, on day two, the day I used my lightning, Plugabugz gave Khush a star to make up for giving me lightning.



I asked plugabugz why I had been given a red-only item. He told me he screwed up. He failed to tell me something crucial: the fact that he had also given a member of the red team a blue-only item.





I thought I was the only one who had been given an incorrect item. But Khush knew he wasn't unique. When he asked Plugabugz why he got a star, it was revealed to him that a blue team member had gotten lightning.

Khush hatched a plan. He decided - and this was truly genius - to claim that he had gotten lightning. He knew exactly what would happen next: at first, everyone would think khush was mafia and jump on him. But then, Khush, feigning ignorance, would ask plugabugz why a blue team member had gotten lightening. And plugabugz would explain that he gave the two teams one wrong item each. Suddenly, the tables would turn. Everyone would become completely, utterly convinced of Khush's innocence.

Ask yourself a question: Do you really think Khush - one of the best mafia players - didn't ask plugabugz why he got an incorrect item the very moment he got it? You have to admit he probably did ask. Now ask yourself - if he did ask, isn't it likely that he knew that a red player could convince everyone he was blue if he said he had lightning? Of course, he probably did know. Now ask: do elaborate schemes and Khushrenada go together like milk and honey? Of course they do.

Now ask yourself one more question. You've seen Khushrenada con people, or been conned by him yourself. How would you feel if you let Khushrenada con you out of your victory?

VOTE KHUSHRENADA

[Khushrenada]

I like you Wandering. I'm glad you were able to live to the end.

[Spak-Spang]

Wandering you may be right...and now I have to switch my vote yet again.

BUT...this is important...I hate the use of pics of the PMs to prove your point.

Well played Khush...but it is finally over.

I knew we had to take you out today.

[stevey]

Why the hell would Khush use lighting on day 2, the vote was for his own bandwagon and no one else? If wandering did then he probably used it on Vudu fearing an antiWandering bandwagon from the red team and forgot to change it later in the day. So Khush is the most probable for red and the star user, but why didn't wandering call him out yesterday? Then again around the time the lighting was given khush started to act way too dumb and like he was up to something so.......


My brain hurts

[Khushrenada]

Oh please. If you believe that load of malarky, Wandering deserves to win. Though I'm curious as to how Wandering hopes to take out both the remaining blue players and not end up in a tie tomorrow.

As for why I never asked, Spak should know. On Day 1 when he sent out the blue shell, he was told that it would cause 2 points damage to everyone attacked. Spak figured it might be a mis-print but he didn't try to correct it. Likewise, with the Lightning bolt, I wondered if Plugabugz made a mistake but I didn't want to do anything to correct. If I can get away with using the wrong item, I'll try for it. I figured if it was an error, Plugabugz would correct it. So, I played it and it worked and I moved on.


But the real crux of the matter is this, Wandering is saying this:

Now ask yourself - if he did ask, isn't it likely that he knew that a red player could convince everyone he was blue if he said he had lightning? Of course, he probably did know.

How would I convice people I was Blue with lightning? Lightning is supposed to be for Red. Moreover, if Wandering is blue, why would he ask Plugabugz if he got the wrong item with the star? The star is supposed to be for blue people. It's the dumbest lie and con job ever and you guys are buying it. Look at Wandering's position. It doesn't make sense.

[Spak-Spang]

The difference was I knew it was a misprint because of balance issues...so I knew it would only eliminate 1 point from each player.

 Wandering's story makes the most sense.  If he was given the Lightning on day 1 then that explains again why he didn't use an item that day, and not all items were used day 1.

You  have no idea who anyone is on day one, and it is better to hold the item until later.

If you don't trust Wandering then target him with items...but, I say we know who is who now...and that may not be necessary.

[Khushrenada]

Wandering's story doesn't make sense. Plugabugz gave him the wrong item on Day 1. He doesn't even use the item on Day 1. No one else had a star until Day 2 in his story and that was me. Why didn't Plugabugz say oops, you're right, here's your correct item the star. After all, no one else had it.

Second, you know I had the mystery box and used it on Day 1. I get the Lightning bolt day 2 and tell you so. In Wandering's story, I'm supposed to have the star. So, why would I lie and say I have the Lightning bolt to you when I could say I have the Star and appear to be Blue? And then, I just happen to get lucky that Wandering uses the lightning bolt on the same day? And he doesn't even vote that day? A day where it is a unanimous vote?

Where is the logic in this story Spak?

[stevey]

Fine, why did YOU use the lighting bot to ruin your own bandwagon?

Alright, we vote out Nickmitch who posts but never votes and you put a banana peel in front of Unclebob who should be the other player near death. I'm convinced Unclebob is Red. I'm not sure about Nick. He might be Red but I'm leaning towards Green at the moment.

[Khushrenada]

I never ruined my bandwagon. I protected it. I used the lightning bolt to cancel all the Red votes except for Unclebob who I gambled wouldn't show up to vote anyways and used up a useless item (to me anyways) in order to get a new one the next. The item I got the next day? The blue shell. I'd say it was worth using. Not to mention, few people were voting. Unclebob, Nickmitch, Dasmos and Wandering hadn't cast a vote yet and I wasn't sure who's side you were on stevey. The only person I could trust was Spak since I knew we were both blue so I played the bolt to ensure there was a good chance Nickmitch would be voted out.

[stevey]

All you need was a tie between the blue and red teams to find out all the roles by using it on one of the sides. Useless, more like the most powerful if used just right....

[Spak-Spang]

Well Khush...use your item against Wandering if you are truly blue and Wandering is red...that way we are one step closer to winning.

You lost my confidence with the Uncle Bob Dasmos fiasco...and I should have used that item on you...I wanted to, but I just couldn't bring myself because I did trust you...some, I mean I wasn't dead and you did vote out 2 Red guys.

But what upsets me is you KNEW who green was after day 2...and you never shared that information with me.  Or any suspicion either...And you knew I already suspected Vudu...and you did nothing to back up my thoughts...you even told me you thought he was blue and tried to push my vote and threat to Stevey first and then Wandering.

I don't know what team you are on 100%...but Wandering has my support for this vote out.  Sorry you lose...and it sucks to say, because I really think you are one of the best Mafia players on these boards, and this game was no exception...you kept vudu in your back pocket once you realized what team he was on...and kept him in check for you.

You just went along with my blind belief you could only be Blue...and even feed that belief with taking out 2 of your own. 

If you are Blue, I am truly sorry...but I can back you up this vote.

[Khushrenada]

Spak-Spang, you've lost it. Check your messages. I sent you one called Vudu talk. It was all my messages with Vudu on Day 2 including the message he sent me saying he had the Pow. I've never held anything back from you. That's why I never thought anything of the Pow block. You never said anything about it and I didn't care about it.

Like the message I sent Vudu. I thought it was a crappy item but didn't care. As long as he was stuck with it and didn't have an offensive weapon like the Blue Shell, I figured, let him live. As I said before, Vudu played differently this game. He was more open with me including tell me his item (although it was one of his items.) Like I told you, I have a hard time reading Vudu.

[Khushrenada]

If there is anyone out there watching this game who didn't participate in it or any player who still isn't sure what is going on, I'm sure these past few days have been high drama and pretty darn interesting.

You may even be wondering about the situation I find myself in. After brilliant play, I made a mistake with Dasmos and have gone downhill since. At the moment, I seem to be in a precarious situation. Despite telling the truth with my alliance and the rest of the voters, one man's allegations have turned the tide against me. Now, a lot of players might be nervous about a situation like this.

But not me. For I know the truth shall set me free.

It's true. Here's another truth that will prove me innocent. Three people are near death. I am not one of them. I have all 3 health points still. The rest of the players of the players all have 1 point remaining.

The only way that is possible is if I am Blue. Look at the items and who they targetted. The point total doesn't work if Wandering is Blue. But it does work if I am Blue.

[stevey]

Red has to never been hit by anything other than blue shell, so judging as you and wandering have 3 points each both of you are just as likely to be red

[Khushrenada]

We don't have 3 points each. Three people are near death. Remember, that's what Plugabugz posted at the start of this thread. 3 people have 1 point remaining. One person doesn't. That is me with all 3.

[stevey]

Yes me, spak, and red. The both of you never got hit by anything other than blue shell thus both equally guilty of red point wise...

[Khushrenada]

Unlike Wandering, I was able to say perfectly what my point total is. Wandering couldn't know whether he was supposed to have 2 points or 3 points to imitate me.

[Khushrenada]

This is Star Fox mafia again. In that game, Zach was the cop and learned I was mafia. He said so. So, I took the only path I could think. I claimed I was the cop and he was mafia. I got a tie vote and won the tie vote.

This game, I honestly stated what my items were. And then Wandering, realizing he was in a corner, turned around and started saying that he had my items. And it's working. But notice everything Wandering says is in retaliation to what I've said. Wandering only takes something I say and turns it around to fit him as the innocent one.

Why didn't he speak up about the Lightning bolt before. Why not say that the Star was used by a Red Person since he recieved the lightning. Instead, he waits for today and suddenly he has a whole story about what happened. Notice this:

I thought I was the only one who had been given an incorrect item. But Khush knew he wasn't unique. When he asked Plugabugz why he got a star, it was revealed to him that a blue team member had gotten lightning.

Can Wandering prove that? No. He's making up what I must have done to fit his point. And he's making up what Plugabugz must have told him. But he can't prove that I was ever in contact with Plugabugz to ask why I got a star nor can he prove that Plugabugz ever said anything to me about people getting the wrong items. But he says it like fact and does it to help paint his story. It's all fiction.

[Spak-Spang]

Khush you are right.  I am sorry I am paranoid. 

And Wandering had the victory until he slipped up.  Tried to tell Stevey to attack me for revenge and vice versa.

Well that slip didn't work.

Now, I know he MUST be red.

But you did share with me all of Vudu's conversation in one big lump...but why not just say...HEY, Spak...Vudu is Green here is the proof.  It would have been easier than the full posts...which is so big nobody can remember.

I have been working, in school, and playing this game (VERY, VERY POORLY.)

I am sorry I doubted you again...though you must admit that Wandering last minute screen capture trick worked pretty good...

[stevey]

The both of you(khush and wandering) are dieing by vote or items, since your trying to get unvoted and wandering wants Spak and Me to kill each other it seem you have a defensive item(s) and wandering doesn't, best to kill you by vote and wandering by items.

[Khushrenada]

The final thing to remember about me is the way I play the game. Yes, I can scheme alot and you have all seen me accomplish much success at this game doing so.

But one thing I don't do is screw over my fellow mates, be they mafia or townie, to get ahead. I always put the group welfare ahead of my own. I expect to get voted out early or killed early. So, because of that, I play as hard as I can with the time I have in the game. I work hard to make sure my group is just as strong, if not stronger, when I leave the game. Killing mafia mates to gain trust isn't my style because I can't guarentee I'll be around to take advantage of that trust. I get killed early. So, to kill fellow Red members would be stupid because it makes the team weaker with no guarentee I can take advantage of the situation.

I've always been a numbers guy. I play this game to get the numbers to win as soon as possible. This theory goes against the way I play. This is something RABicle would do. Not me. I fight to keep players in and give them advice to fight with when they are in trouble. If you've been on my side before, you know that is how I play every single game. It's how I have success. You don't mess with a good thing. It isn't logical and it isn't me.

[Khushrenada]

Stevey. I have a Red shell. If you don't vote Wandering, I am going to send that Red Shell to you tonight and take you out of the game and deny you the chance at the prize. Wake up. Spak finally realized who's been honest. I can swear to you right now that I am being honest to you.

[stevey]

And there still the posts of

Wait, what happened stevey? You hit Vudu with two bananas?

I told about the first on day 2 and you order me for the 2nd...

Ahh good. The day is over. How did I do?

I no longer think Khush is the green player. Retracting my vote.

How do I do it?

Khush is smart.

There is the answer right there.

The green player is, in fact, Khushrenada.

Thank you, thank you.

The guy loves to give away his role if he thinks he can get away with it.

Not always but if you insist.

WTF, are you trying to pull

[Spak-Spang]

Stevey...keep it as it is.  I am voting Wandering and so is Khush 2 votes to KO him.

You are voting Khush and so is Wandering 2 votes to KO him.

Neither of them can afford to switch votes...and if we hold our votes the same they both die without items at all.

I am using my item defensively...it is a banana peel.  Wandering is probably going after Khush with his weapons and sending us to try to kill each other.

If Wandering had not of told us the same story and tried to get us both to KO each other then he would have won...but as it is...that was his big slip.

[stevey]

Stevey. I have a Red shell. If you don't vote Wandering, I am going to send that Red Shell to you tonight and take you out of the game and deny you the chance at the prize. Wake up. Spak finally realized who's been honest. I can swear to you right now that I am being honest to you.

Triple red shells A******

[Spak-Spang]

Khush if you take Stevey out because he doesn't trust you...and you are going to lose that is petty, and I will lose some respect for you and this game.

(AND I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU)  You taught me how to play this game...and you gave me a chance...you even taught me to be paranoid and question everything which made me feel I would be betrayed by you once I realized Green could win by just eliminating 1 whole team I didn't know what to do or who to trust anymore...so you became a target.

The mass confusion and all hell broke loose with weird rules being broken and such. 

If Stevey feels he can't trust you...let his vote stand, your team will still win if you are Blue...and if not then you have the right to target him.

[Khushrenada]

I'm not trying to pull anything stevey. Spak and I both thought Vudu wasn't green at the start of the day. I forgot about the banana peel until you reminded me. We were both working on other theories.

As for me being green, that was a joke. People kept saying I was green all day, even Vudu. Everyone kept saying I might be green and pulling a fast one on them. I figured with Vudu dead and Wandering getting killed by items, I could post that and make everyone worried I DID trick them after all until the final reveal which would have showed I was Blue. Unfortunately, Wandering survived and the joke backfired as no one trusted me today.

[Khushrenada]

I've already sent the order in. The shell is going to Wandering. Give me some credit. I'm not a total backstabber. I just posted that I play for the good of the team. That would not be for the good of the team. It was an empty threat to get stevey to change his vote.

I was hoping to be able to stand alive at the end of the game. It doesn't happen too often. Especially since I helped take down every Red member and the Green.

[DAaaMan64]

DAV OVA... A COUPLE OF MINUTES LATE
So as I see it I see:

Khushrenada: ||
Wandering: ||

Day starts in 3 hrs!

[Spak-Spang]

True that...but sacrifices have to be made.

Remember during the weekend, when we were stirring things up...I purposely put myself out as a target...I never expected to live...do you know why I put myself out there?  Because I wanted you to have a chance to live Khush...I figured you would be target number 1...and so I made myself a target with theories and loud mouth ideas.

I was one of the first...if not the first to suspect Vudu of being Green or Red.  Unfortunately I also targeted Stevey...but that was because he called me an idiot.  Guess what...Stevey was right...I was an idiot for not being careful and reading everything, and watching players closer.  Stevey sat in the background and figured so much out.

Death is the only thing certain in Mafia...and I am glad you made it this far in the game.

[Khushrenada]

What happens in ties? Do people get to change their votes?