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Episode 107: Nintendo Less Conference

by James Jones - July 19, 2008, 10:28 pm EDT
Total comments: 35

Jon, Greg, and James didn't get to go to E3. That doesn't make them less angsty about how it all went down.

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The Today Show ain't got nothin' on this coverage.






It's probably safe to assume that most of RFN's listeners were not ecstatic after Nintendo's E3 press conference. It can be safely stated that Jon, Greg, and James weren't either.

With Jonny in California, covering E3, and the "fans" "demanding" our "opinions," we decided to give them a 20 minute "quicky." 2 Hours later we had alienated the entire E3 field team.

Such is...

Credits:

This podcast was edited by James Jones.

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Talkback

Feed no updatey.  :-(

That's odd.  Working on it now.  The feed is "up to date" and it doesn't not validate.

Okay, it should be good now.

AVJuly 20, 2008

well i'll just download the mp3. no problem, At least I can do that .

Edit: Ok its up on iTunes so I'll download that instead.

Edit 2: Ok finished hearing it.

Great job guys. I agreed with everything you guys said. I was a little disappointed you didn't do regular stuff like VC mondays, What you playing and e3 be the news part so organization what I expected and what happened were two different things. Oh well not a big deal, since you were preaching to the choir and everything you guys said was spot on and funny as usual. (greg rolling around the floor playing metroid prime is just great mental image  :o )
I wanted you to hear you guys bitch out nintendo for having more garbage on VC/Wiiware before e3 and what seems like the quest to release EVERY Neo Geo game out before the SNK Collection is released.

I would give the show a 8.944444444443 /10.

So when are you guys doing a regular show again? Going to take a break or going into normal stuff in a few days?

We'll have another regular show at the end of this week.  We're back on the normal schedule now that E3 is over.

P.S. Throwing Greg into any ridiculous mental image is a guaranteed howler.

GregLover5000July 21, 2008

All hail Greg Oliver Cromwell, NWR Lord Protector, ruling the Rump Podcast Crew with his iron man-beam!

D_AverageJuly 21, 2008

Another great show guys, very interesting!

On the podcast James mentioned he just picked up a 360, and I know Lindy has a PS3, I was curious Greg, do you have another console as, or are you now leaning towards one?

YoshidiousGreg Leahy, Staff AlumnusJuly 21, 2008

I currently do not own a console other than Wii. I've been leaning towards picking up a 360 for a while, and since I got a HDTV a few months back, I think it's very likely that I'll get one in the not-too-distant future. This is not due to any dissatisfaction with what I'm getting out of Wii, in fact I've only been getting more and more use out of it over the past few months with Brawl and great third party titles like Boom Blox, Pro Evo, and Okami. My interest is due to the software library that the 360 has now built up (though I remain relatively unenthused by FPS games, but I'd doubtlessly get some of them with a 360 anyway).

D_AverageJuly 21, 2008

Quote from: Yoshidious

I currently do not own a console other than Wii. I've been leaning towards picking up a 360 for a while, and since I got a HDTV a few months back, I think it's very likely that I'll get one in the not-too-distant future. This is not due to any dissatisfaction with what I'm getting out of Wii, in fact I've only been getting more and more use out of it over the past few months with Brawl and great third party titles like Boom Blox, Pro Evo, and Okami. My interest is due to the software library that the 360 has now built up (though I remain relatively unenthused by FPS games, but I'd doubtlessly get some of them with a 360 anyway).

That makes a lot of sense.  I'm pretty satisfied w/ the Wii as well but have been leaning towards the PS3 for Blue Ray as I too recently acquired an HDTV.  As far as gaming on the PS3, I would definitely pick up a few of their racers, and the upcoming Little Big Planet (not a FPS fan either).

GoldenPhoenixJuly 21, 2008

For gaming I think the 360 is the best system, it is too bad it does not have a blu-ray attachment though. I can see the dilemma if you want blu-ray movies (which is why I got both!). Though PS3 does have the groundbreaking and revolutionary title Resistance Fall of Man. So I dunno ;)

DjunknownJuly 21, 2008

Where's the Lords of Thunder love? The second time Greg, James and Jon are together, and no mention of Lords of Thunder? C'mon now...  :(

Podcast Mercenaries FTW!

It'll be interesting when Nintendo brings Retro back into the limelight. With their key people uncermoniously canned, what direction will Retro take?

GoldenPhoenixJuly 21, 2008

Quote from: Djunknown

Where's the Lords of Thunder love? The second time Greg, James and Jon are together, and no mention of Lords of Thunder? C'mon now...  :(

Podcast Mercenaries FTW!

It'll be interesting when Nintendo brings Retro back into the limelight. With their key people uncermoniously canned, what direction will Retro take?

Metroid Prime Party Gamez

D_AverageJuly 21, 2008

You guess mentioned during the show Nintendo would surely release more games before the holiday, but it looks as if America's favorite soccer mom has other ideas:

Wired.com: Have we seen the extent, now, of Nintendo’s 2008 holiday lineup?

Dunaway: You have seen the extent of Nintendo’s 2008 holiday lineup. Also items that we didn’t talk about yesterday, like Wario Land: Shake It. Which is a great franchise for the core. It’s Wario in all his gross wonderfulness, shaking the Wii remote, and that’s going to be tons of fun.

Looks like its going to be the worst Nintendo Christmas after all.  :'(
http://blog.wired.com/games/2008/07/nintendos-cammi.html

GoldenPhoenixJuly 21, 2008

One point I think hasn't been touched on is that this was a lame E3 even for casual gamers. Wii Music and Animal Crossing do not make for an amazing casual gamer christmas either. Now if they had Wii Sports 2 for Christmas that would mean something. As it stands Animal Crossing is a fun game but nothing huge and Wii Music, is, well, Wii Music.

D_AverageJuly 21, 2008

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

One point I think hasn't been touched on is that this was a lame E3 even for casual gamers.

But they won't even notice!  They're still too busy playing The Wii Bowling Machine!

GoldenPhoenixJuly 21, 2008

Quote from: D_Average

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

One point I think hasn't been touched on is that this was a lame E3 even for casual gamers.

But they won't even notice!  They're still too busy playing The Wii Bowling Machine!

Don't bash the Wii Bowling machine, it is AWESOME.

YoshidiousGreg Leahy, Staff AlumnusJuly 21, 2008

If the early impressions of Wii Music are anything to go by, I think GoldenPhoenix has an important point that this holiday season may be a letdown beyond simply a lack of Nintendo-published traditional games. Looking at some of the interviews from Cammie Dunaway and Reggie, it seems that the only way Nintendo may patch-up their sparse holiday schedule is with WiiWare titles. I remain very enthused by the prospect of what Nintendo's internal teams could create for WiiWare, but we still haven't seen any signs of them committing that kind of creative talent to WiiWare development yet.

Regardless of how the holiday lineup itself turns out, I think Nintendo would do well to organise some manner of showcase for previously unseen projects at some time this year in order to address the apprehensions of certain sectors of its audience. It is necessary to engage these consumers if their relatively consistent flow of software purchases for Wii is to be maintained. If development on all such projects really isn't far enough along for Nintendo to give them a substantial showing at some point this year, questions need to be asked regarding how Nintendo has managed the development schedules of its various teams.

Let's just say Nintendo needs to show more than three games for the rest of 2008.

GregLover5000July 22, 2008

Lest Greg worry that his maidenhood is at risk, rest assured that I'm happily married, safely ensconced on another continent, and quite certain that the closest I'll come to buggery is a rousing game of Bugdom 2 on the Mac.

I am a great and sincere fan, though, of Mr. Leahy's keen gaming insight and vast vocabulary; anyone who can work "interregnum" and "meritocratic" into a gaming podcast has my respect. (Just for reference, the clerk at my local Target store nearly had to be hospitalized after trying to pronounce "Madagascan vanilla" for a price check last week.) 

D_AverageJuly 22, 2008

I hope your premonition is correct Greg, but I still think we're screwed and there's nothing we can do.

ShyGuyJuly 22, 2008

If Nintendo has a weak holiday season, the trolls will be happy.

YoshidiousGreg Leahy, Staff AlumnusJuly 22, 2008

Quote from: GregLover5000

Lest Greg worry that his maidenhood is at risk, rest assured that I'm happily married, safely ensconced on another continent, and quite certain that the closest I'll come to buggery is a rousing game of Bugdom 2 on the Mac.

Hahahaha, well I suppose that allays any conceivable concerns one could have! Many thanks for your kind words and support of the show, it is very much appreciated.

In one sense my belief that Nintendo will make some kind of move before year's end to address the concerns of its traditional base is optimisitc, but it's also based on what I perceive to make commercial sense for Nintendo at a broad strategic level. Of course, if Nintendo were to be negligent in this regard, it would hardly be the first time they've been guilty of making strategic missteps as a company. So I readily concede that such an olive branch to the traditional base is far from inevitable this year. 

GregLover5000July 22, 2008

ZOMG!!! Greg responded to my post!!!  :-*

D_AverageJuly 22, 2008

Not to make is look like I'm stalking you too Greg, but I just checked the Broncos home game calendar and noticed the BILLS are coming to town on Dec 21'st.  If by some odd chance you're in the area, let me know, as my buddy has season tix and can probably hook us up!

ShyGuyJuly 22, 2008

Let's look at Nintendo's Wii holiday schedule for years past

2006:
Wii Sports
Zelda Twilight Princess
Excite Truck

2007:
Fire Emblem
Mario Galaxy
Link's Crossbow Training

2008:
Wii Music
Animal Crossing

I'm guessing there will be a third game for Christmas 2008. Keep in mind though that we knew all the Holiday titles by the end of E3 the last two years, so it's probably a game we have already seen. What is the release date for Fatal Frame 4?

YoshidiousGreg Leahy, Staff AlumnusJuly 23, 2008

Well D _Average, I'd scarcely pass up the opportunity to see my beloved Bills in person another time, but I can't forsee that I'd be out of the country around Christmas time. Your thoughtfulness is very much appreciated though.

To ShyGuy's point about the holiday schedule and Fatal Frame: Tecmo have indirectly confirmed that Nintendo will be publishing Fatal Frame in North America, yet Nintendo themselves remain absolutely silent on the topic, so we do not have a release date for it yet. I suppose a late October release is an obvious window for this sort of game, and would seem to allow more-than-sufficient time for the localisation process to occur.

MarioIsFrenchJuly 23, 2008

Does everyone feel better now that Iwata has formally apologized for the E3 coverage>?

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53803

D_AverageJuly 23, 2008

Quote from: Yoshidious

Well D _Average, I'd scarcely pass up the opportunity to see my beloved Bills in person another time, but I can't forsee that I'd be out of the country around Christmas time. Your thoughtfulness is very much appreciated though.

Thats what I figured, but who knows, maybe another time.  Since my beloved Bears aren't coming to Denver this year, I'll probably try to score tickets to the Packer's game instead and cheer for their demise against Denver.

GoldenPhoenixJuly 25, 2008

Since DAAaman failed at his job I am going to have to ask Crimm if the podcast is coming today. So Criimm will a podcast be worming its way in today?

kraken613July 25, 2008

We ask this every week! lol

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

Since DAAaman failed at his job I am going to have to ask Crimm if the podcast is coming today. So Criimm will a podcast be worming its way in today?

I'll do what I can.  It's been a crazy week at work: the earliest I've left is over an hour late.  Today I left a full three and a half hours late.

ShyGuyJuly 26, 2008

We appreciate you Crimm!

CalibanJuly 26, 2008

Crimm, here's a present from me for all your past, present, and future hard work: Jace Hall speaks with Jack Thompson (SFW), and later on with Vida Guerra (uhhh NSFW I guess lol, you will see why).

kraken613July 26, 2008

So any estimate to when we will get it?

By the end of Tomorrow, I promise.

kraken613July 27, 2008

Cool
Cant wait!

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