Will Europe get it? :'(

It's coming one day, Reggie will deliver.

reggie should be CEO of Europe and Oz as well.

Award for the biggest WTF comment goes to...

my comments are amazing bro, what are you talking about?

When he says OZ, he's talking about Australia where he lives. But you know that, right?

Yes, I knew that.
I was referring to why anyone would want Reggie in charge.


NoA used to be the best region outside of Japan - but not long after Reggie came in things change. Now NoA is probably the second best behind the clearly superior NoE. Maybe it's not his fault, but he'd be getting the credit if things went well so...


(That said, I'm pretty sure he was joking or being sarcastic. At least I hope he was.)

Reggie will soon rule the WORLD! I will be the puppet master pulling the strings!

I would love for this to come over, but I'm not holding my breath. Oh well, back to emulation.

Before anyone gets all worked up, you need to ask yourself: Do you want this game in a censored form?
There's no way that N would release Mother 3 with a translation-only.  No way in hell.  There's too much "questionable" content in there for the SJWs at Nintendo treehouse to get their panties in a bunch.

If it meant not having the game at all I would absolutely buy a censored version. I find the concept of censorship to be an insult to your audience and to your fans, but if in the grand scheme of things it only affects 0.1% of the game's total content who cares?

I never understood why "SJW" is a derogatory term.

Anyway, I'm not sure how much censorship the game needs.  I'd actually be interested in seeing what would need to be changed.  I'm sure Nintendo wouldn't strip it down to an E rating, if it's already sitting at a T.  The game is pretty niche, and a lower rating wouldn't bump NA sales much (or so I would think).

What do you mean by SJWs?

It's like the word "hipster" at this point in that it's been stripped of all real meaning and is just a generic insult against someone you don't like.

Wow.  This thread went to crap quickly.

I disagree.  Nintendo had some *GREAT* years under Reggie.  They *really* went downhill a year or two before 2013.  In 2013, Reggie was demoted and Iwata took over as CEO of NoA.

Nintendo is a Japanese Company - Nintendo of America really needs folks who understand what works in America and have the authority to make it happen.

Would Mother 3 really need censoring?  I hope not. I've played the fan translation and think it should be released as is.


That said, I think it's unlikely to happen because the cost to get it translated is just too high to justify at this point.  (Unless they license the fan translation -- but that seems very un-Nintendo. Frankly, I'm still thankful that they didn't shut that extremely well-run project down.)

Maybe I'm mis-remembering then.


It feels to me like ever since Reggie came in that NoA went uber-safe with their decisions. That they would double-down on games that appealed to the casual majority and provide minimal support (if bringing the game over at all) for things that weren't expected to be a million+ sellers.


Focusing on maximizing profit and minimizing risk is good for profits and investors, but often meant that niche or colorful things I found interesting didn't come over. Games like Another Code R are one example - it would never be a huge seller, but not coming at all was a disappointment.


What were the *GREAT* years that you remember, that are attributable to Reggie?

SJW means people who have to turn everything for a scandal for them to crusade and fix in their vision. The episode of the P.C Principal in South Park? Good satire of them.

Nintendo could essentially take the fan translation, which has been offered to them for free by the guy who did it who is a professional translator, and slap it on the E-shop. But that would hurt their pride or something.

Did they censor any part of Mother 1 or 2?


I have no good memories under Reggie except for Xenoblade which we had to pull teeth to get.

Mother 2 has Ness walking around naked in Magicant, and I shouldn't have to explain why they put pajamas on him for the localized version.

I agree.  I keep thinking about the scarf thing.  So many people wanted that scarf, and it was only available in one place, at one time.  Just the fun giveaways have mishandled so poorly in recent years because NOA either doesn't have their finger on the pulse of their audience or can't do anything about it.  Similar to the ~new~ Nintendo 3DS XL.  The excuse for not having the regular model (market confusion) was contradictory to the naming convention.  I just don't know if Reggie is making bad decisions or if they're being made for him.

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Another Code:R just... wasn't that good. :(

Anywhoo - Reggie was pretty much the man in charge during the GameCube era - one where we had some of the most fun games ever released.  Granted, some of those would have came out no matter what, but Chibi Robo?  Custom Robo Arena?  Odama?  Probably wouldn't have seen the light of day in the Wii-era.

It's impossible to know what to attribute to Reggie and what not - but I get the impression he had slightly more control in the GCN-era and was blamed for the total lack of success in the US along with "allowing" Microsoft to gain such a significant marketshare in their first generation.  That's just my guess though.

Yes. Mother 1 had several alterations, such as the cigarette being removed from the Smoky the Crow sprite (along with name change to Spiteful Crow), and the blood removed from the zombies, and some other stuff. The big change for Mother 2 was mentioned, and there was also stuff like the bar being changed to the cafe and such.

I think Mother 3 has even more stuff in it that wouldn't fly in NA, especially if they want the game to carry an E 10 or less rating. And I think that's part of why the game was never released here to begin with.

Just the existence of okamas in that game (they're main characters) is more than enough for Nintendo to not bring it over to this puritan, prudish nation.  One angry letter from an overly protective parent (or hundreds, however you look at it) is something NoA seriously wants to avoid, apparently.

Yeah, but if you let the game stay at a T rating, would that much work need to be done?  It seems like much more effort would be needed to bring a game to a E rating without the related sales impact.  I mean, how much marketing would this game get?  A trailer in a Nintendo Direct? An email newsletter? Front page on the eShop?  That's all the marketing I imagine it would get, and none of those are particularly costly.

If Mother 3 was ever brought over it'd be eShop exclusive anyway which would allow for less censorship then what Mother 1 and 2 got.  People have to remember the version of Mother 1 on the eShop is the english translation Nintendo made back in the early 90's when they planned on a actual retail release, that they've had in their vault for over 20 years now.  Same with Mother 2 being the original version from the 90's as well when NOA was more censor happy.

Plus the Fire Emblem games have more controversial content then Mother 3 and yet we keep getting those released.  Yeah there's still some censorship like Tharja's ass in the Awakening DLC and they've toned down some of the more perverted dialogue, but the main storyline and characters are still there.  People need to stop acting like Mother 3 is some extremely controversial game that would have to be butchered horribly to be released here when much of the content in it is no different from other games NOA has already released at retail in America.

The Zelda series has had okama characters in almost every game released in the last decade and yet they're still released in America.  Hell, the most recent Zelda on the 3DS even allows Link to crossdress by not only wearing a dress but even dress as a chearleader complete with a short skirt.  And yet Nintendo still advertised the game on Disney and Cartoon Network, channels aimed at kids. 

Just because they've recently been removing skimpy outfits on underage girls doesn't mean NOA is a prudish as people seem to think.

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Okay, yeah sure. There are far worse games then Mother 3 out there in terms of content that children play. You think parents give a fuck anymore? Please. Just because it is from Nintendo it is expected to be different? Then they would have received letters for the Bayonetta release. Even if they did get hate mail, they can safely ignore it. Hardly anybody nowadays have the conviction to boycott.

This is possible - I wasn't really going back far enough (didn't own a GameCube at that point), and maybe getting blamed for poor sales of that console affected how he handled things later.


Also it's a really good point that it's hard to know who really makes decisions - who deserves blame for choices we don't like, or credit for choices we do.  Reggie is just the pinata I point to when things aren't what I want... and for a bunch of years it feels like NoA has been doing a poor job now (relative to Japan or Europe).

GameCube was a hard sell though when both of your competitors had DVD play back when DVD was the hot new thing and your machine had those weird mini discs and a handle that made it look like a toy. I wouldn't blame Reggie for any of that, he didn't design the console how do you market a console with poor design but amazing games they did the best they could focusing entirely on the games. If there is one thing I would point to he might have done better, or NOA anyways, would have been fighting to get those network adapters in more stores and fighting to get some online added, at least in NA, for those games that people expected to have it. He Xbox came out guns blazing with their Live and took the whole world by storm.

NOA has always been behind the times though, I remember people complaining during the SNES days Japan had games we didn't and they always did neat stuff like game downloads, really cool you promotions and the like. It seems like in America they just kind of treat it like "here is our product now buy it or not we don't care."

Since you clearly have all this insight, please by all means explain why Nintendo removed the boob slider from Xenoblade Chronicles X?  Surely, we can't have anyone offended by something so ridiculously minor!

This thread is starting to offend me...

Iirc, the boob slider was also taken out in the EU release as well. So it isn't because of "overbearing puritanical American parents" like you trying to lead to believe. Maybe, just maybe, it was a stupid decision on Nintendo's part. Shocking I know. They rarely make those.


I never claimed to have all the insight. I will claim to say that you are overreacting which was my point.

Yeah the funny thing is, Europe is probably the main reason for the Boob Slider being removed.  In some places in Europe, it's illegal to have porn of flat or small breasted women, because pedophiles might use it as a substitute for the real thing even though the women in these porno's are of legal age.  I imagine NOE had a huge problem with the game allowing players to create underage looking small breasted characters considering some of the outfits you can put these characters in are pretty much fetish outfits you'd see in softcore porn.

Now I'm sure NOA is probably glad to dodge the sexualized minors bullet the boob slider could have caused here as well, but at the end of the day all of Nintendo's recent censorship has had more to do with the West having a bigger problem with potential pedo bait then Japan who disgustingly embraces it because the otaku's who love it are willing to spend big money to get it.

You get out of here with that logic and reason. This is clearly the work of those no good, rotten, underhanded SJWs using censorship to silence the good and honest gamer.

I admit, I never would of thought of going "smaller boobs" if given a slider.  ;)
What was said above makes enough sense that I can accept the change.

What the heck?  Small breasts doesn't equal child.  That's a stupid law.  Like, really stupid.

One of the options is a height slider, and though I only moved it up I'm pretty sure you can drop the PC to someone of Lin's size.