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Wii MotionPlus Over Responsive According to EA

by Lukasz Balicki - April 5, 2009, 1:55 pm PDT
Total comments: 31 Source: TechRadar

EA developers that are working with the new peripheral claim that the new technology is so accurate, that it's over responsive at times.

Even though the Wii MotionPlus doesn't have an official release date, it won't stop publisher EA from releasing Grand Slam Tennis and Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10, which support the peripheral, in June.

In an interview with TechRadar, EA producers Thomas Singleton and Mike Taramykin explained how the Wii MotionPlus functions and all the different types of challenges EA had while developing two of the first titles that support Nintendo’s new peripheral.

According to Thomas Singleton, the producer of Grand Slam Tennis, "the game calibrates your hand motions, your WiiMote position, in relation to the sensors and after getting that calibration from the sensors, it's detecting where you are in relation from the shortest sensor point; up to down, left to right, then it maps those one-to-one movements to the character in the game." The biggest challenge that the Grand Slam development team had is that the Wii MotionPlus is too sensitive, so then team had to limit the fidelity of the peripheral to give the players "full total control."

Mike Taramykin, the producer of Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10, described the technology of the peripheral saying that "[it] incorporates a vibrating structure gyroscope," which "measures the vibrating structure's resistance to changes in orientation." Tarmykin said that "by accumulating these incremental changes, [they] can calculate a very good estimate of the Wii Remote's orientation."

When both producers were asked if it was challenging to incorporate Wii MotionPlus into each respective game, both producers said that it was easy. Nintendo provided software libraries to help the development team understand what the peripheral actually does. The only challenging steps were to figure how to utilize the peripheral and modify pre-existing game code to accommodate the new possible motions, and to modify the character animations to match those motions for a 1:1 experience.

Talkback

EnnerApril 05, 2009

Sweet. Now my poor performance in golf and tennis will translate accurately in to the video game. Awesome!

(Seriously, I think this is awesome.)

GoldenPhoenixApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Enner

Sweet. Now my poor performance in golf and tennis will translate accurately in to the video game. Awesome!

(Seriously, I think this is awesome.)

I agree. It is kind of funny that something as simple as a dongle attachment can take the Wii so far. It seems to be almost a generational step.

AVApril 05, 2009

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

Quote from: Enner

Sweet. Now my poor performance in golf and tennis will translate accurately in to the video game. Awesome!

(Seriously, I think this is awesome.)

I agree. It is kind of funny that something as simple as a dongle attachment can take the Wii so far. It seems to be almost a generational step.

Yeah. I wonder if internally some people at Nintendo just wanted to hold back on WM+ until Wii 2.

I think Nintendo might need to educate the masses that subtle hand movements are ok, you don't need to jump around like a wild chimp when you play Wii Sports.

KDR_11kApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Mr.

I think Nintendo might need to educate the masses that subtle hand movements are ok, you don't need to jump around like a wild chimp when you play Wii Sports.

You can play Wii Sports sitting on your couch, using only small wrist movements. Of course that makes you a FUCKING TOOL.

The movement is a part of the fun, moving generates adrenaline.

TJ SpykeApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Mr.

I think Nintendo might need to educate the masses that subtle hand movements are ok, you don't need to jump around like a wild chimp when you play Wii Sports.

Nintendo's been trying to do that since the Wii launched I think the masses are too stupid to realize that and they should give up trying.

Flames_of_chaosLukasz Balicki, Staff AlumnusApril 05, 2009

I think it's interesting how in depth the EA producers went in describing the technology, how sensitive the tech is to a point that they had to limit it in order for it to function properly in their games.

Tuxedo.BondApril 05, 2009

I want a proper lightsaber battle.

BeautifulShyApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Tuxedo.Bond

I want a proper lightsaber battle.

Don't we all.

Hey what does everybody think would be good uses for Motion+?

GoldenPhoenixApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Maxi

Quote from: Tuxedo.Bond

I want a proper lightsaber battle.

Don't we all.

Hey what does everybody think would be good uses for Motion+?

Fishing.

BeautifulShyApril 05, 2009

I see GP.There haven't been that many good fishing games aside from the side quest in Zelda:TP

broodwarsApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Maxi

Quote from: Tuxedo.Bond

I want a proper lightsaber battle.

Don't we all.

Hey what does everybody think would be good uses for Motion+?

Zack & Wiki 2 and anything involving swordplay.  So yeah, hopefully Zelda Wii and some sort of Star Wars game.  Maybe even No More Heroes 2.

BeautifulShyApril 05, 2009

Zack and Wiki had some excelent controls.No More Heroes 2 would be nice and it is a ways off so if Suda51 wanted he could impliment it.

StogiApril 05, 2009

Thief.

GoldenPhoenixApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Maxi

I see GP.There haven't been that many good fishing games aside from the side quest in Zelda:TP

It really has been quite pathetic, even with the limited motion controls there is still no excuse for there to not be one good fishing game.

broodwarsApril 05, 2009

Quote from: GoldenPhoenix

Quote from: Maxi

I see GP.There haven't been that many good fishing games aside from the side quest in Zelda:TP

It really has been quite pathetic, even with the limited motion controls there is still no excuse for there to not be one good fishing game.

Sure there is.  Nintendo hasn't come up with the right mold for a snap-on Wiimote fishing rod peripheral to ship with an upcoming Wii Fish*.  We'll see a real fishing presence once Nintendo finds a way to assign a plastic peripheral attachment to it, as seems to be the way of things on Wii.

*not a real game

BeautifulShyApril 05, 2009

Hmm there was a topic that had lots of nice ways to use the Wiimote when it was announced.I'm going to try and find it.

GoldenPhoenixApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Maxi

Hmm there was a topic that had lots of nice ways to use the Wiimote when it was announced.I'm going to try and find it.

Lol yeah, it is funny that the Wii Motion Plus is actually fulfilling promises made BACK BEFORE WII CAME OUT!

BeautifulShyApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Maxi

Hmm there was a topic that had lots of nice ways to use the Wiimote when it was announced.I'm going to try and find it.

Ah here it is

KDR_11kApril 05, 2009

Quote from: Tuxedo.Bond

I want a proper lightsaber battle.

If you're willing to settle for neon colored plastic sticks Wii Sports Resort has that.

vuduApril 06, 2009

Quote from: broodwars

Zack & Wiki 2 and anything involving swordplay. 

I hope you're joking.  The swordplay in the original was easily the weakest part of the game.  I had to replay the last level (or maybe it was the second-to-last) like ten flipping times because I could never get the sword controls to work.

NinGurl69 *hugglesApril 06, 2009

Lotion Puss is too sensitive, data discharges prematurely, leaving the programmers with a mess, embarrassment, and shame.

EasyCureApril 06, 2009

Quote from: vudu

Quote from: broodwars

Zack & Wiki 2 and anything involving swordplay.  So yeah, hopefully Zelda Wii and some sort of Star Wars game.  Maybe even No More Heroes 2.

I hope you're joking.  The swordplay in the original was easily the weakest part of the game.  I had to replay the last level (or maybe it was the second-to-last) like ten flipping times because I could never get the sword controls to work.

For NMH? (I've never played Zach and Wiki so i don't know if theres any sword elements there you're reffering to)

If you couldn't get those swipes to work then maybe somethings wrong with your wiimote, cuz those were very easy to pull off. The only time i had trouble with motion controlls in that game was when performing wrestling moves that required the nunchuck. i feel like maybe my timing was off with those and one accelerometer would activate before the other.

By the end of the game though it was a peice of cake pulling off
all those moves.

vuduApril 06, 2009

I was referring to Zack & Wiki.  Sorry that wasn't clear.

IceColdApril 06, 2009

Quote from: vudu

Quote from: broodwars

Zack & Wiki 2 and anything involving swordplay. 

I hope you're joking.  The swordplay in the original was easily the weakest part of the game.  I had to replay the last level (or maybe it was the second-to-last) like ten flipping times because I could never get the sword controls to work.

AND, vudu. AND.

broodwarsApril 06, 2009

Quote from: vudu

Quote from: broodwars

Zack & Wiki 2 and anything involving swordplay.

I hope you're joking.  The swordplay in the original was easily the weakest part of the game.  I had to replay the last level (or maybe it was the second-to-last) like ten flipping times because I could never get the sword controls to work.

I was mentioning "Zack & Wiki 2" and "anything involving swordplay" being good candidates for Wii Motion +, not "Anything involving swordplay in Zack & Wiki 2."  Trust me, I hated that swordplay in Z&W as well...tilll I figured out my problem was that I wasn't holding the Wiimote the way the game was telling me to (on its side).

StogiApril 06, 2009

Quote from: NinGurl69

Lotion Puss is too sensitive, data discharges prematurely, leaving the programmers with a mess, embarrassment, and shame.

/thread

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ShyGuyApril 06, 2009

You know how you can stack the Sega 32x units on top of each other in a Genesis? Could you do the same thing with Motion Plus modules and make a super tower of power?

StogiApril 06, 2009

Don't give Nintendo any ideas!

StratosApril 07, 2009

Quote from: ShyGuy

You know how you can stack the Sega 32x units on top of each other in a Genesis? Could you do the same thing with Motion Plus modules and make a super tower of power?

I'm going to try that someday. I'll get a bunch of people to meet and we'll all bring our M+ and create the world record of most M+ attached to a single Wii Remote.

It's more fun to stack AC power adapteres and transformers in foreign countries. I had an impressive chain to charge my camera battery in Germany: battery charger -> US-EU transformer -> EU-UK adapter ->  UK-EU adapter.

There wasn't enough flat space around the wall outlet for my US-EU transformer brick to fit. It was fortunate I had bought a UK-EU adapter for a throwaway cell phone I bought in the UK.

EasyCureApril 07, 2009

Quote from: vudu

I was referring to Zack & Wiki.  Sorry that wasn't clear.

oh ok then. Had no idea ther ewas sword play in that. Glad i didn't fly off the handle and insult you for (mistakenly) thinking you couldn't get NMH to work when it barely uses motion controls lol

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