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No NWR Metroid Review Today or Soon

by Jonathan Metts - August 28, 2007, 10:19 pm EDT
Total comments: 41

You'll have to wait to hear our thoughts. Here's why.

You may have seen reviews for Metroid Prime 3: Corruption going up at some of the major websites yesterday and today. Unfortunately, Nintendo has decided that we and many other major websites are not worthy of joining the chorus of early praise for this game. You see, final review copies of the game were not shipped to the press last week, as is the normal practice at Nintendo and most other publishers. Nintendo decided, for some arcane reason that we may never know, to hold review copies of the game until this week. (We have been trying for two days to reach a representative and ask why this happened with such a major release, but we have been unable to get a comment from Nintendo's PR agency.) Those sites that have already published their reviews were given special "lock boxes" on which to play a reviewable burn of the game, before it was finished being manufactured at the disc factories. This means they have had two weeks to play through the game and write their reviews in time for the launch date. The rest of us were not so lucky as those select few. If Nintendo was worried about spoilers or anything else leaking, they could have simply put an embargo on coverage of the final retail copies, just as they did on the "lock box" versions. We have never broken a media embargo from Nintendo or any other company, and we never will.

We did finally get to start playing the game today, August 28th -- yes, the same day as all of you will be able to pick it up at the store. Playing at full breakneck speed and rushing through the writing/editing process, the soonest we could provide a review to our dear readers is probably Thursday. But you won't see a review on that day either, because we're going to do the job right and experience the game as it should be played -- the same way those "big guys" got to play it during the last two weeks. We thought it was bad when we didn't get Metroid Prime 2: Echoes until the Friday before release, giving us only two or three days to play the entire game and attempt to write a clear and fair review. The situation is much worse this time, and out of protest and sheer practicality, and because we'd like a chance to enjoy and experience the game rather than view it through a haze of Red Bull and self-imposed deadlines, we are going to take our time. To put it in a context that Nintendo and Retro Studios should understand very well, our review will be posted "when it's finished".

We don't want to come off as elitist or whiny just because we got the game the same day as all our readers. We strive to deliver our reviews as quickly as possible, preferably before or on the launch date for major titles. Unfortunately, Nintendo's actions have made that impossible for Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. We just wanted to explain the delay, since we have had such extensive (and timely) coverage of this game for over two years preceding its release. Whether you're enjoying the game already or waiting to hear more before deciding to buy it, please check back this weekend for our non-rushed review.

Talkback

King of TwitchAugust 28, 2007

The nerve of these people. This is how they treat their biggest game of the year so far? One of their most highly-respected and long-running series? 4 days of commercials and limited reviews?

Screw them. No, make that Screw Attack em.

They really should have been sending early review copies to every magazine, website, blog, and newspaper under the sun at least a week ago.

Ian SaneAugust 28, 2007

Seems like Nintendo being Nintendo. The common practice is to withhold review copies for really crappy games so that bad press doesn't get out in time to hurt sales. Since Nintendo rarely makes crap it's likely someone else came up with this idea. So to prove that all ideas that aren't their own are bad, Nintendo is intentionally executing the idea in a broken, goofy manner - using the same tactic on a good game.

This is sorta a joke post but seriously why does Nintendo do such blantantly dumb, OBVIOUS, easily avoided things. Even now when they're finally back in the saddle they're still the masters of doing dumb sh!t for no reason. Doing this seems to only have potential negative results and no potential postive ones. At best this accomplishes nothing and at worst pisses off some of their biggest supporters. SO WHAT SORT OF BRAINDEAD F*CKTARD WOULD EVER DO SUCH A THING?!

GoldenPhoenixAugust 28, 2007

Yeah but Nintendo didn't withhold review copies, they let some out. Still kind of odd to do.

I could understand not giving everyone lock boxes two weeks ahead of time. But I don't believe that they couldn't produce and send any retail discs early last week, before the mass retail shipments.

Anyway we could lodge a formal complaint with Nintendo's PR department? It simply sounds like Nintendo just being really, really, non-caring about fansites in favor of major review hubs.

TJ SpykeAugust 28, 2007

Luckily it's not a problem for me. Reviews are usually meant to help convince someone to decide whether or not to buy the game. I had planned to get this game a long time ago and already paid for it last week, and I will be playing it as soon as Family Video sends it to me by mail (part of the sacrifice of paying only $40 rather than $54, is the 5-10 business day shipping period).

jayz79August 28, 2007

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We don't want to come off as elitist or whiny just because we got the game the same day as all our readers. We strive to deliver our reviews as quickly as possible, preferably before or on the launch date for major titles. Unfortunately, Nintendo's actions have made that impossible for Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. We just wanted to explain the delay, since we have had such extensive (and timely) coverage of this game for over two years preceding its release. Whether you're enjoying the game already or waiting to hear more before deciding to buy it, please check back this weekend for our non-rushed review.


Hmmm... while the sites might mean well for giving us this explanation but is it actually needed? You could have easily just posted impressions of the game which includes statements that you just got the review copy of the game. I together with my other friends also ran a fan site and are envy on sites like you that get review copies... I am just surprise with the explanation that is posted.

Again a article that you just got the game would be enough for your readers to understand why you don't have reviews up yet. It isn't like we will call in the Brotherhood of Nod to destroy NWR for not putting up a review early hehehe.

In summary, i am dissapointed on this article. For today NWR gets a thumbs down from me. Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day face-icon-small-smile.gif

CericAugust 28, 2007

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I just wanted to let you know I don't like how you guys are jerking around your loyal review sites since Nintendo has become mainstream popular again. Heres the article for your reference http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=14303

It just seems wrong. This is the community that has stuck with you though N64 and Gamecube. Not just the good times. Its already bad enough that Nintendo has bluntly come out and says that it will ignore the suggestions of its fans and the rewards program here in the States is a collective spit in the face. Even Europe has a better program, with Japan having the best. I mean NOA couldn't bother to bring over the minimal translation Bit series for the GBA which is only really selling strong in this territory now.

Don't take that as a compliment. The DS just overcame the Gamecube about 2 months ago. It had done that in other territories a long time before. What is really the salt in the wound is that the PR department want give a response on why this happened.

I know the strategy is now not to care about your fans and to grab a new pool but, sour milk makes for a bad cake.


I'm tired of sitting back so I'm now sending things to get ignored by customer service.

GoldenPhoenixAugust 28, 2007

Perhaps something happened and Nintendo no longer trusts smaller sites to keep things secret. Yeah it may not be fair, but they may perceive it as safer.

ThePermAugust 28, 2007

eh, im glad the games finally out

KDR_11kAugust 28, 2007

Locked boxes sounds like they were worried about someone uploading an iso of the disc to the internets.

SheckyAugust 29, 2007

maybe it has to do with that system update ... My understanding of a lock box is that it's a stand alone unit. Essentially they send you a Wii with MP3 as a "box".

MashiroAugust 29, 2007

I'm literally angry with rage!

MarioAugust 29, 2007

I'm pretty sure everyone is going to buy it no matter what. I'm glad you guys aren't rushing the review

Nick DiMolaNick DiMola, Staff AlumnusAugust 29, 2007

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Originally posted by: Mario
I'm pretty sure everyone is going to buy it no matter what. I'm glad you guys aren't rushing the review


Totally true, however I'm a little annoyed by this situation for that exact reason. I'm sure Nintendo realizes that all of us will be buying the game anyway and aren't waiting on the review. But that is no damn excuse to turn a blind eye to your most loyal of fans. That pompous attitude is what got them in sh*t years ago and it will get them in sh*t again if they don't change there attitude.

ArbokAugust 29, 2007

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Perhaps something happened and Nintendo no longer trusts smaller sites to keep things secret. Yeah it may not be fair, but they may perceive it as safer.


Well Shacknews got an early copy... and I have never even heard of them before...

Anyway, it seems like a number of sites got early review access... just none of the Nintendo dedicated ones, which seems odd.

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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Anyway, it seems like a number of sites got early review access... just none of the Nintendo dedicated ones, which seems odd.


Actually, that's a trend I've noticed, particularly during the E3 press conference. Nintendo seems to be giving preferential treatment to more mainstream news outlets (and sometimes blogs) as part of their audience expansion program rather than the traditional Nintendo game sites. It's like they consider their previous fan base secured so that they don't have to spend the same amount of effort that they do with the general media and "the people." It's sad really, because with their increased success, they should easily have sufficient resources to keep all parties involved satisfied, but I'm afraid we're seeing the old Nintendo arrogance returning.

Shacknews is a really big site for multi-platform game coverage. They've been around for over ten years. My friend Chris Faylor from NeoGAF works there.

Ian SaneAugust 29, 2007

"Nintendo seems to be giving preferential treatment to more mainstream news outlets (and sometimes blogs) as part of their audience expansion program rather than the traditional Nintendo game sites."

The non-gamer focus affects us all.

that Baby guyAugust 29, 2007

I can see that happening for this particular game, though. We have to appreciate that at least it seems like Nintendo is finally strategizing. It seems Nintendo wants MP3 to appeal to hardcore fans of other platforms, right? Isn't that what they're doing when the make sure those generic sites get these things? They really should start sending stuff to Xbox fanboy sites to see if they won't start reporting on Nintendo stuff.

But yeah, they shouldn't have left out their non-profit lovers, either.

NinGurl69 *hugglesAugust 29, 2007

STRATEGERY

Let me point out that Nintendo doesn't need to cater to very large multi-platform sites at the expense of the rest of us. They have been doing lock box reviews with GameSpot, 1up, etc. for years, and I have no problem with that (although I wish it was possible for us to get in on that action). But the lock boxes have nothing to do with Nintendo withholding final retail review copies until the ship date. Again, Nintendo and some other publishers are usually very good about sending us the retail review copies at least a couple days before launch, sometimes more than a week. I had seven days to review Zelda and Excite Truck before the Wii launched -- that was great. Still a lot of work to get those reviews ready, but it was reasonable. So I really don't understand why they waited so long with this particular game (Metroid), although I've heard rumors that they might have done it to prevent spoilers from leaking. That would be truly ridiculous.

By the way, these late retail copies weren't just for Nintendo-only sites. It also happened to Wire's Game|Life, Kotaku, and lots of other places.

TJ SpykeAugust 29, 2007

Who cares about Kotaku? I don't understand why Kotaku gets debug systems and review copies of games. They don't preview games, they don't review games, they don't do articles on games. They have no need for debug systems or review copies of games since they don't use them for anything.

BigJimAugust 29, 2007

Shanked!

Someone's dropping the ball amongst the marketing department chaos.

PaleMike Gamin, Contributing EditorAugust 29, 2007

As far as the who deserves review copies and who doesn't debate is concerned...

It's absolutely silly for publishers not to send review copies to every site that gets a reasonable amount of hits. Just the slight chance that they are going to mention it is enough reason to shell out the minute amount the pressing of the disc costs. That is why Kotaku and Wired get games when they don't officially review very many titles at all. If the editors of either site just put up one post that says "I threw in such and such game and was totally surprised how good it was." that has enough value to warrant sending them 50 games.

Take Penny Arcade for an example. Arguably the most popular video game related site on the Internet. I don't know if any of you caught Wired's recent article on them, but in part of it it talks about how they have a pile of games in the corner from publishers, much of which never really get played. Occasionally though, when they need a comic topic, they throw one in and see what they get. Then, as soon as one relatively obscure game get's a comic, sales are guaranteed to be higher than before. One great example, (though a lot of sites including NWR joined in hyping this game) is Puzzle Quest. They made a comic about it and talked a ton about it. That game sold through it's relatively small initial shipment EXTREMELY quickly. Taking this further, I'm not sure how many of you have seen the Eye of Judgement hype they have going on right now. That's based on play time at Comic Con, and I guarantee you they will be getting an early version of it. Publisher's can't pay for that type of hype.

So anyway, there is no reason for publishers not to send these discs out if they have them. About the only reason I think this particular case would make sense is if these suckers literally didn't come off the assembly line until Sunday because of some delay. That seems a little hard to believe though.

NinGurl69 *hugglesAugust 29, 2007

Nintendo sucks. Sucking strongly since they bought Rare.

BwrJim!August 29, 2007

Hurt puppies, arnt much fun.. oh no no no no no
they don't smile, they dont type, they dont even get to see that metroid fight....
hurt puppies arnt much fun...

Jome20August 29, 2007

I can understand the staff at NWR being frustrated that they weren't able to get an early copy of Metroid Prime 3. But the people talking about Nintendo being cocky or jerks for not sending out early reviewable copies of the game are being ridiculous.

And since it appears that NWR was not the ONLY site that missed out on getting an early copy of the game, I don't think it's anything personal to NWR and they shouldn't be offended or feel slighted.

There may be a possibility that the marketing relocation had something to do with this. I'm not sure who NWR works with when talking to Nintendo and getting early copies of games. But if it has anything to do with the marketing department / PR department than this definitely could have played a factor.

Overall, I hope that NWR doesn't take this incident and reflect on it while writing up their review. Although it's unfortunate, NWR should know that their audience won't be angry at them or stop going to this site just because they didn't have a MP3 review on day one.

Metroid Prime 3 is a great game, take your time and enjoy it. Then get that review to us when you've been able to soak it all up and enjoy the game.

BwrJim!August 29, 2007

Metroid summed up in one word...

metroidiffic

Flames_of_chaosLukasz Balicki, Staff AlumnusAugust 29, 2007

Its a shame that it happened since Metroid Prime 3 and Bioshock are the two most awesome games I have played in a while.

18 DaysAugust 29, 2007

Cry more noobs. I bet PlanetWii would've received some.

GalfordAugust 29, 2007

I will admit this is kinda odd.

NWR is the target audience for MP3.
What gives?

shammackAugust 29, 2007

I don't think you should assume this is some sort of slight. You said they're usually good about getting you copies early, and other sites didn't get early copies either. They could have just not had the retail copies ready until the last minute. Didn't the release date get pushed back by like a week? A change that small indicates to me they needed every last second to finalize the game before it shipped, for whatever reason.

vuduAugust 30, 2007

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Originally posted by: Pale
It's absolutely silly for publishers not to send review copies to every site that gets a reasonable amount of hits. Just the slight chance that they are going to mention it is enough reason to shell out the minute amount the pressing of the disc costs.
Confirmed: NWR is so unpopular Nintendo will make more money off the sale of the single game they would have given away as a review copy than by all the reviews/impressions said review copy would have generated.

CericSeptember 10, 2007

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Message(#6851-000607-2492\6072492)

Hello and thank you for contacting Nintendo,

We appreciate your bringing this issue to our attention. Your comments are important to Nintendo, so I will be happy to pass along your feedback to the appropriate personnel for further review. While we cannot respond directly to all forwarded feedback, I can assure you that your comments regarding this matter will be heard.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.
Greg Hamilton

Nintendo's home page: http://www.nintendo.com/
Power Line (Automated Product Info): (425) 885-7529


I just got my response from Nintendo. I thought I share.

SheckySeptember 10, 2007

No. Many other sites more popular than us were also denied early review copies. This was not an attack on NWR but a general failing of the PR services at Nintendo.

Bill AurionSeptember 10, 2007

I blame it on Jonny's constant hate on NST...Yep, yep... =)

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterSeptember 10, 2007

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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
I blame it on Jonny's constant hate on NST...Yep, yep... =)


I think you mean Retro, Bill.

Bill AurionSeptember 10, 2007

Nope, I definitely mean NST! =)

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