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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1525 on: January 13, 2011, 02:49:39 PM »
The Iwata Asks about the 3DS has been posted in full: http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interview.html#/how-nintendo-3ds-made/0/0
http://iwataasks.nintendo.com/interview.html#/how-nintendo-3ds-made/0/0
Iwata Ask 3DS edition

Gamecube & GBA were tested in 3D..... GC using a 3D version of Luigis Mansion that Nintendo planned on releasing with the GC 10 years ago.
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edit: OIC, new sections were added... I think.
I never read the whole thing.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1526 on: January 13, 2011, 03:10:35 PM »
Yeah they just put up the rest of the interview. I read something that linked to the Japanese Iwata Asks page so I checked the US one. I'm glad the whole thing is up, I've been waiting to read it.
3d video sounds cool, but if the cameras aren't as powerful as other cameras wouldn't the video suffer because of that?
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« Reply #1527 on: January 13, 2011, 03:18:52 PM »
the video is only going to be displayed on the 3DS so the .3MP resolution cameras will fit the screen resolution perfectly.
Now if you were exporting this to an external source, like a 3DTV or YouTube3D then you might want that 3MP cameras, but Nintendo is all about being as efficient as possible and not exceeding the machines own capabilities, so we won't get cameras that are capable of more than what the 3DS is currently capable of displaying.

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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1528 on: January 14, 2011, 02:18:18 AM »
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So this time, we included the Street Pass within the Nintendo 3DS system itself, rather than having it just be in specific games. Now, for example, when you play a game like Nintendogs or Animal Crossing or Pokémon, if you turn StreetPass on, you will exchange game data with other users five, six, seven times for multiple games just by walking around with your Nintendo 3DS.

This has me most excited! Now is he talking about Black and White or an example of a future pokemon game? Amazing data can be exchanged even if I have not played the game in months! This makes up for the seemingly lackluster rewards system completely!
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1529 on: January 14, 2011, 03:26:46 AM »
Lets just hope that Friend Codes follow that same plan.

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« Reply #1530 on: January 14, 2011, 08:28:56 AM »
It is pretty cool that StreetPass will transfer game data for games that are saved on the 3DS and not just what's in the slot, but what will be traded?

For Pokemon I could see trainer info so that when you go to a battle aren you'll fight against people you've passed. For Animal Crossing I could see personally designed furniture being transfered between shops. But beyond that, I do not know.

Actually, that thing about achievments for walking around, could that be for StreetPass? Like if you pass/collect the info of twenty of trainers through StreetPass MewTwo will appear, or something to that effect?

This would be unlike Nintendo, but it would be rather cool if they were to release a 3DS patch for Pokemon Black and White that would not only display battle sequences in 3D, but allow the game to take advantage of such features like StreetPass and 3D AR.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1531 on: January 14, 2011, 10:37:30 AM »
They said the info that can be passed will depend on the game and publisher. For example, Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition will have a figure from your game fight theirs and the winner gets their opponents figure. You can trade Miis with other people. Nintendogs + Cats will let you share pictures. I think it might be limited what can be traded since it has to be designed with the fact that the data needs to be saved on the 3DS itself rather than the game card.
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« Reply #1532 on: January 14, 2011, 10:04:31 PM »
This would be unlike Nintendo, but it would be rather cool if they were to release a 3DS patch for Pokemon Black and White that would not only display battle sequences in 3D, but allow the game to take advantage of such features like StreetPass and 3D AR.

More likely is that the third game in the Black and White "era" will come with these features instead than any kind of patching.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1533 on: January 14, 2011, 10:40:21 PM »
It is pretty cool that StreetPass will transfer game data for games that are saved on the 3DS and not just what's in the slot, but what will be traded?

The neat thing about StreetPass is that it does use local transfer instead of WiFi.
If I were Nintendo, I'd totally put something crazy in the system, just to test stuff out.

For example, I'd code something into the firmware that, when connecting to Nintendo's servers, a series of 1's and 0's are uploaded, representing different stats.  One of these sets of stats will only be effected if the DS has secretly downloaded (via StreetPass) the secret code.  For example, let's say the set comes, as default, at 000-000-000.  Now, I work for Nintendo and, say, at E3 - I set up a StreetPass station that does nothing but change that sequence to 000-001-000.  Then, everyone who walks by will download the code that changes that sequence.  Then, everyone who walks by everyone who walked by at E3 will get it, spreading like a virus, slowly, across the country.  Then, every time your 3DS connects, Nintendo records your unique DS number and records that your "slot six" has been activated.  Then, they can retrieve a daily, weekly, monthly or yearly report that reflects the number of DS units that have been activated and chart the exchange of that data.  Then, next year's E3, they can send out a code that changes the second 0 to a 1.  They could distribute the code at a Japanese event that changes the very last 0 to a 1 - see how long it takes to jump the ocean and spread across the US. :D
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1534 on: January 15, 2011, 02:27:28 AM »
I'm getting a half-formed memory of a game where you infected other players with your personal virus, and you could see how far it got across the world... If it wasn't 2:30am I'd look it up but I'm beat and I just wanted to sat that StreetPass (your idea for it anyway) would make such a game a lot more interesting.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1535 on: January 15, 2011, 06:18:28 AM »
Monster Hunter Portable 3DS!?
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/02/monster-hunter-producer-talks-about-switching-platforms/
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“The 3DS is releasing, too, so I think the right time to switch [Monster Hunter] to new hardware is coming as well,” Tsujimoto told Gemaga, in their recent December 27th issue, when asked about his hopes for 2011. He goes on to say that new hardware in general will make 2011 an exciting year for business.
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That might be one I could get into. Could 3D really help this series? Surely the hopefully much improved online of the 3DS could also help out the connectivity of this game too.


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Looks like the M rated games on 3DS are gonna be getting Black Game Cases like the M rated games on Wii were last year.
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/01/14/nintendo-also-packages-mature-3ds-games-in-black-boxes-too/
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« Reply #1536 on: January 15, 2011, 10:04:29 AM »
In a way I would like to have different packages here too, only a few Wii games have had different boxarts.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1537 on: January 15, 2011, 03:02:01 PM »
I'm getting a half-formed memory of a game where you infected other players with your personal virus, and you could see how far it got across the world... If it wasn't 2:30am I'd look it up but I'm beat and I just wanted to sat that StreetPass (your idea for it anyway) would make such a game a lot more interesting.

Time splitters 2? Virus mode?
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1538 on: January 15, 2011, 04:51:06 PM »
I'm getting a half-formed memory of a game where you infected other players with your personal virus, and you could see how far it got across the world... If it wasn't 2:30am I'd look it up but I'm beat and I just wanted to sat that StreetPass (your idea for it anyway) would make such a game a lot more interesting.

Time splitters 2? Virus mode?

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« Reply #1539 on: January 15, 2011, 08:17:38 PM »
Yeah, it's Infected. I've never even played the game, but I was intrigued by the idea of potentially infecting millions (or thousands in the PSPs case...) of systems with a virus that was not only unique to me, but trackable as well.

Hopefully there are developers out there who think like UncleBob, because this would be awesome with StreetPass.

It could even be done with a little more complexity, like if in Animal Crossing 3D you can design your own furniture that through StreetPass shows up in other people stores. Not only could you see how many different systems your furniture has made it onto, but how many people actually bought it. That idea could of course be expanded into other games that allow you design your own characters...

Which makes me think of Miis, what if every system you pass is tagged with your Mii for Mii parades? If each system tags a StreetPass system with not only your Mii, but 5 other ones randomly selected from StreetPass Miis, it would be even cooler if your Mii made it across the ocean, because it would be based on not only random encounter, but random selection thereafter.

Which actually makes me think of something else; how much information can the 3DS transfer between two people simply passing each other on the street?
 Without knowing what kind of radio is used for StreetPass, it would have to be pretty fast to transfer more than one Mii considering the data of the 3D Mii itself, along with name, favorite color, and location. Location would be cool because if your system were to get populated with Miis they could show up on a world map of where they originated from.

Hopefully the 3DS has at least 6GB of internal storage. From Iwata saying they want to push content onto users without them doing anything to get it, Nintendo should include a significant amount of storage.
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« Reply #1540 on: January 15, 2011, 08:27:52 PM »
It would be nice if Street Pass was paired with a GPS unit and a system like Google's GeoTags which put a location on pics and video you've taken with your phone so you can know where you encountered People, Miis and other data collected by the Street Pass feature.

And was it ever determined how much flash was onboard from the stripped down 3DS taken from the assembly line?

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« Reply #1541 on: January 15, 2011, 08:29:32 PM »
I think it's been confirmed (or at least reported) to have 1.5GB of internal storage.
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« Reply #1542 on: January 15, 2011, 08:34:14 PM »
That was from the (still unconfirmed) IGN leak. I was talking about from the 3DS that was opened up and taken apart.
I just checked the NeoGAF thread and it appears that nothing was confirmed from that stolen 3DS other than it has internal chips and a motherboard. They weren't even able to determine how much total RAM the system had by dissecting it.

Seems like someone potentially lost their job and no one gained a single bit of new info, other than how big it is in comparison to other systems and that it uses 96MB RAM in debug mode.

Disappointing.

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« Reply #1543 on: January 16, 2011, 02:00:44 PM »
News about the Amsterdam 3DS conference next this week.
http://www.nintendo-universe.co.uk/2011/01/15/jonathan-ross-nintendo-3ds-capabilities-far-better-than-i-would-have-thought-possible-without-glasses/
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Jonathan Ross is hosting the amsterdam 3DS event. UK people will know exactly who he is - and he's a huge fan of both Nintendo and the 3DS. This guy has an absolutely ridiculous collection of Nintendo stuff at his home. Anyway:

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Writing on the ever growing social media site Twitter, Ross wrote "I have been invited by Nintendo to host a conference next week that gives out info on the 3DS. Tried it yesterday! Booyah!"

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Writing on popular social media site Twitter, Ross commented "What I can say about 3DS is that the 3D is far better than I would have thought possible without glasses. Can be switched to regular 2D!"

Whilst he confirmed that he had only been playing on a prototype model, Ross had nothing but praise for the upcoming handheld having played a number of titles including Mario Kart.

He then went on to comment that "The games that seem to benefit the most are the driving and shooting games - the perspective makes it all feel more accurate."

Having been queried as to the other selection of games he was able to test, Ross only teased "A few other faves coming as well - plus a few unexpected revivals!" Although, it is more than likely that the games that he was referring to have already been announced and was playing coy in case they hadn't.

Finally, Ross revealed that he actually owned a Virtual Boy back in the day, writing "Remember the Virtual Boy?! I had one of those. Great looking but weird to play."


I don't know who Jonathan Ross is other than some UK celeb and a videogame (specifically Nintendo)fanatic
(His game room: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqThGlynsus&feature=player_embedded or http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25440859&postcount=28)
but here is a bonus conversation from twitter:
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It's absolutely fine, I don't expect you to spill anything, it's nice to have a surprise. I have my fingers crossed for Metroid..
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@darrenkerwin I think you're going to be pleased then...


Not sure if he was referring to "surprises" or "Metroid", but for HYPE sake, lets just assume he was referring to Metroid 3DS


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« Reply #1544 on: January 16, 2011, 05:45:07 PM »
Has anyone who's handled a 3DS had anything bad to say about it?

The only thing I'm worried about is that the event on Wednesday will simply be Nintendo wanting to generate more good word of mouth and not give out any info beside release date/line up and price.

I don't think Nintendo ever officially gave hardware specs for the DS/i(?) so I'm prepared to be disappointed on that front, but I want to know more about StreetPass, the new online setup, on-board storage, and AR support; none of which they detailed at Nintendo World in Japan. With just over a month to go until the Japanese launch you would think Nintendo would want to flesh out the features a little more their home market, perhaps they're just waiting until after the simultaneous (are they timed together or simply dated?) events, because I think GDC happens after Japanese launch.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1545 on: January 17, 2011, 02:59:26 PM »
The Amsterdam 3DS event on the 19th ill be streaming live on the internet
http://live.nintendo3ds.nintendo-europe.com/
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See every second of the European Nintendo 3DS Preview event on 19th January 2011 from the comfort of your own home via the official live webcast. Catch the main presentation, see first-hand reactions to the upcoming portable 3D entertainment device from Nintendo and get a glimpse of the forthcoming games and much more!

The webcast will be streamed live from 3pm CET on 19th January 2011.
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Re: Nintendo 3DS Discussion
« Reply #1546 on: January 18, 2011, 10:36:38 AM »
MaryJane, I got to spend a better portion of a day on and off the 3DS at Nintendo World in Japan and I really don't have anything negative to say about it sans the camera. It did what it was supposed to do, but with such terrible quality, I could see myself and a lot of other gamers out there using it for a little bit, and then just forgetting about it. Kind of like Pictochat.

At the event, though, nobody really had free reign to go anywhere on the system other than the game with the staff more or less breathing down your neck.
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« Reply #1547 on: January 18, 2011, 05:14:10 PM »
What time is the US conference?

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« Reply #1548 on: January 18, 2011, 05:19:56 PM »
It starts 9AM Eastern.  Check http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/event/24583 for updates.
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« Reply #1549 on: January 18, 2011, 06:31:00 PM »
I thought the NY one was at 10am though....
Amsterdam time is +1 GMT and WC time is -8 GMT sooo ::pulls out calculator::

3pm CET - 1 - 8 = 6am PST

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