Author Topic: Silicon Knights and Nintendo break up (Read 93384 times)

Ian Sane · « **Reply #150 on:** April 13, 2004, 08:26:45 PM »

"sk 'may' make games for nintendo consoles....hmmmm may...may...may...wait whats happening in may? something big i think...dd does like playing with quotes, messin with our minds. E3 is in may...i wonder..."

You're either crazy or you're so sane that you've blown my mind.

gwgtrunks · « **Reply #151 on:** April 13, 2004, 08:29:45 PM »

Doobie's obviously learned a green alilgned recover spell.

DrkStarTTD · « **Reply #152 on:** April 13, 2004, 08:30:58 PM »

that is a big jump to take may out of a sentence and connect it to e3

wait i said jump may be they will be at the jump festival

Doobie · « **Reply #153 on:** April 13, 2004, 08:34:40 PM »

hey you never know. i think it would be very very clever. sk is very clever too. but remember doobie is the one that called it. i see things...futures may...

Doobie · « **Reply #154 on:** April 13, 2004, 08:40:06 PM »

im just trying to lighten the mood, who knows i may be right. as of right now im not worried you shouldnt worry intil we know the details whether it will be tomorrow a week or e3, just go play ed or mgs:tt and enjoy it. no matter what i believe sk will always devolp for the big n even if they go on other systems, we just dont know yet.

ThePerm · « **Reply #155 on:** April 13, 2004, 09:00:19 PM »

lol actually i thought of that but i didnt mention it...iv been picking apart all of sk's interviews....though ima give doobie the credit of mentioning it. Pass the doobie word...erm pass the word doobie

Darc Requiem · « **Reply #156 on:** April 13, 2004, 09:37:53 PM »

I've said it earlier in this thread and I'll say it again Nintendo is on thin ice with me. From reading all the reaction at several sites Nintendo has practically pissed off its most loyal fans. I never thought I'd see the day in which I was so disgusted with Nintendo that I actually doubt I'll be buying there next console. Nintendo reminds me of the that out of touch relative thats needs an intervention. Nintendo has 6 billion dollars just laying around and frankly, I'm sick of their lack of common business sense. If they actually put forth the effort to obtain third party exclusives, produced games for the older gamer, and produced a decent sized memory card at LAUNCH instead of nickel and diming us. Nintendo might actually outsell its competitors and with a larger userbase the could sell more of their own titles and make more cash for themselves. On top of that, they'd expose their type of games to a larger variety of gamer and who knows the mainstream gamer might actually like the Nintendo brand of gaming. Of course will never find any of this out because Nintendo can't remove its cranium from its posterior. I never thought I'd find myself agreeing with Eric Mattei of Nintendojo....but now I see why he's become so fed up. Jeez Nintendo, if you ran the Gamecube business like your GBA business you might be on top.

Darc Requiem

TooShort · « **Reply #157 on:** April 13, 2004, 10:13:18 PM »

I hope this turns out to be a late april fools joke on SK's part. Judging from Denis Dyack's personality, I wouldn't put it past him. But if this is true, Nintendo has some major internal crap to deal with! Two of their most talented and beloved developers gone within only a few years of each other! Not only have they hurt them selves by letting go of these developers, but also giving their competition some more ammo.

Nintendo, through its stubborn ways and insane philosophies, have driven their best allies away. Not only are us fans, or at least those of us who will stay with Nintendo (myself not necessarily included), going to be stuck with Wario Ware, Kirby's Air Ride and other 1 and 2 button games, but we're going to have to play it on hardware that's at least a generation behind the competition's, that won't have any 3rd party support. Gee, that sounds grand.

What ever happened to the great multiplayer games? What ever happened to the innovative gameplay? You say, Nintendo, that innovation is what the industry needs, yet you come out with crap games that wouldn't have been more innovative on the Game & Watch! These games are less fun than they are innovative and yet you still operate under the illusion that you are the best developer in the world. And the only developers that you had that were still willing to make fun and innovative games? You alienate and send them running for the hills. I'm surprised you are where you are right now in the race, but don't think that won't change. People will grow tired of your crap as I have!

Goodbye Nintendo! We had some good times, but you failed me in the end. I won't take your crap anymore. I hope you have a quick and painless death, only long enough for you to realize your follies.

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #158 on:** April 13, 2004, 10:15:13 PM »

Nintendo has recently formed a new fund that will be used to buy into smaller companies. Gamasutra reported it not long ago.

Someone pointed out that Nintendo never disclosed how much of SK they owned. They also mentioned that Denis owns some shares in the company. If Silicon is a listed company, and Nintendo owns a minimum of 10%, it's concievable that another company could actually buy a larger potion of SK [than Nintendo has] without revealing it. Not likely, though.

Darc Requiem is right; Nitendo is pissing off too many of it's somewhat numerous hardcore fans by having this sort of crap happen, especially when it happens by suprise. SK was prehaps the best anecdote Nintendo had as a 2nd party; being based in North America, making 'mature' games et cetera.

Darc Requiem and Ian Sane should get together and form a website with rants whenever something like this happens. I'd read it.

Armed · « **Reply #159 on:** April 13, 2004, 10:53:01 PM »

Y?! NO.... This really is a downer, my most anticipated game was gonna come from them, Too Human, and there is a chance that it wont be an exclusive to Nintendo or even come to Nintendo at all because of the kiddy image. If Too Human goes to a different console i'm oficially going to go multiplatform or maybe even give up on Nintendo the way things are going now... No sequel to Tales of Symphonia, Developers dropping off Nintendo, y is this happening?!? Now all i can really look forward to from Nintendo is Metroid 2, Custom Robo, and Zelda WW2. These guys were my favorite developers maybe i'm overreacting because of the shock this news has brought me, but these were the guys that made me stick with Nintendo, they made me think Nintendo was gonna become number one again with the way these guys created their games, and they didn't mind making it for mature audiences, so Nintendo had a chance of reaching the "older" crowd. Maybe i will feel better tomorrow morning, maybe it's because of fatigue from my job that is doing all this overreacting, but right now i feel like selling my Gamecube and getting a PS2!!!!! Or even breaking my Gamecube!! AHHHHH!!!! I'm done, this is really depressing my new favorite Nintendo developer gone just like that......

ruby_onix · « **Reply #160 on:** April 13, 2004, 11:40:01 PM »

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Nintendo has recently formed a new fund that will be used to buy into smaller companies. Gamasutra reported it not long ago.

Supposedly it's not a new fund, it's just the first time most people have heard of it.

GameSpot Rumor Control

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #161 on:** April 14, 2004, 02:24:58 AM »

If this is SK's doing I dont blame them at all. After hearing Iwata speak, I would try to distance myself from that nut job as well.
Iwata is going to be the downfall of Nintendo, on the NIN tombstone they will write, "thanks Iwata".
Iwata fails to realize that other companies have good games as well, and that his companies games no longer have anywhere near the impact they once had. This man is so out of touch with the North American market, that if this is Nintendo's doing, again I wouldnt be suprised either.
If they dont think this will hurt their sales in the long run then they all need to give their heads a shake.
As for all the people who think this is a joke. GET F'IN REAL. SK is done with NIN, plain and simple. They "may" make games still. Translation "we will never work with these clowns again".

HAve fun debating this folks, IMO this is an open and shut case.

Uncle Rich AiAi · « **Reply #162 on:** April 14, 2004, 02:43:58 AM »

I'm with thecubedcanuck. People who think this is a joke (or a ED2 joke) are crazy. Wake up and face the facts.

I'm waiting for more info about break up (if we do that is), before I decide what to think about this. But lately, I've been worried about Nintendo and the direction they are going. Heck, I haven't really been impressed with their 1st party titles this gen. What are my top 2 GC games to date? One is a freakin' port and the other is a remake. Go figure.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #163 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:12:01 AM »

Well just specations mind you but if you were Sk wouldn't you leave? SK gets it's money from software sales and wasn't it nintendo who kept ED from being released on the N64 just so they'll have an GC title for launch? So they lost two-three years just to earn even less revenue than if they stuck with the N64.

And I think it was Nintendo that kinda forced SK into making Twin Snakes too and place it's "Too Human" on the back burner. Sk sounds like the are more interested in making orginal games.

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #164 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:16:19 AM »

No way guys, this is megatron V2. You just wait. SK will be sitting on the toilet tomorrow and go "NAH MAN ALL A JOKE LOL HERE'S ETERNAL DARKNESS 2" and they'll turn out the lights. I have my sauces, BBQ and chilli.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #165 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:28:04 AM »

I'll get right on getting F'N real. ^_^ I'm glad you're always objective and look for the most wellrounded viewpoint, cubed, and don't try to just piss off everyone who reads your posts! We're lucky to have people like you on these boards!

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And I think it was Nintendo that kinda forced SK into making Twin Snakes too and place it's "Too Human" on the back burner. Sk sounds like the are more interested in making orginal games.

You obviously don't know anything about Denis Dyack- long before Twin Snakes was even conceived of he would talk droves about how much he loves Metal Gear Solid- Twin Snakes was like a dream project for him. I think it's hilarious how you're all speculating about every possible reason and yet none of them sound real at all! I mean, how is Iwata a nutjob, cubed? Because he has ethics? Strange, I thought those who didn't were called the nutjobs, but you must be more knowledgeable on the subject than I. ::rolls eyes::

It's funny, because as much as you guys think it sounds stupid that this may be a joke, you can't for the life of you come up with any better reason.

I'm not saying I'm 100% correct, and in fact I'm probably wrong, but this being a publicity stunt sounds a hell of a lot more believable than anything you guys have cooked up.

Plugabugz · « **Reply #166 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:29:47 AM »

Sarcasm excepted of course

thecubedcanuck · « **Reply #167 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:37:40 AM »

" I'll get right on getting F'N real. ^_^ I'm glad you're always objective and look for the most wellrounded viewpoint,"

Are you for real? Objective? Since when is living in a fantasy world wishing for a differant outcome of a known fact considered objective?
Your stance on Nintendo is as far from objective as anyones I have ever read.
Again the pot calls the kettle black.
THis however is not the point of the thread, and I was simply staing my point of view, one which I do not need to justify to you.
In short, I think this will hurt nintendo huge, I also think the current team runnign nintendo couldnt be more out of touch with the reality of the gaming world.

Say whatever you will, hope all you want, this is over.

Ymeegod · « **Reply #168 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:47:48 AM »

" Denis Dyack- long before Twin Snakes was even conceived of he would talk droves about how much he loves Metal Gear Solid- Twin Snakes was like a dream project for him"

Why would re-making a game that you already played be a dream fantasy? There's a big ole difference of being a fan and being the developer. Like I said, he sounds like he pefers making orginal games (plot) than having one handed to him.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #169 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:54:24 AM »

Cubed: If you're not going to justify your opinion, don't get mad when I criticize it. In any case, you have the chronic inability to read my entire post, which you should go back and do so right now.

Ymeegod: Wouldn't you love recreating your favorite game of all time? Honestly, read any interview with Denis Dyack, and I'm sure he'll say the same thing now- Nintendo didn't force SK to make Twin Snakes. That sounds loonier than anything anyone can claim I'm coming up with.

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #170 on:** April 14, 2004, 03:56:36 AM »

blol keep up the drama guys, this is TWICE as good as any GCN report card thread or discussion about online. FREE AGENTSEVEN too, this would be hilarious with him around

Infernal Monkey · « **Reply #171 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:00:48 AM »

I wonder if Pong is another favorite game of Denis'? Seriously, that'd be the best remake ever. I'd be all like "I'm playing Pong" and the GameCube would be totally like "I'm struggling because of the sloppy PAL conversion" and I'd go get some corn chips. The guy at the counter would be all like "Here's your change" and I'd go "Oh yeah" and pelvic thrust the air.

odifiend · « **Reply #172 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:01:49 AM »

Reading Dyack's early interviews, it sounded to me like he'd volunteer to work with Kojima and on MGS at a drop of a hat. I don't think HAVING to work on MGS:TTS was the problem. I also can't imagine freedom being the issue either. Unlike the man who created smash bros. and left (could someone give me the name so I know who to look for), Nintendo wasn't forcing game ideas on SK. It probably had to do with sales or that Nintendo wanted to sacrifice quality for prolification. They've already had Rare and knows it doesn't help to have a game once every 3 or 4 years, but at the same time you can't rush art.
The joke would be nice but Nintendo's PR wouldn't have confirmed it if it was. And the phrasing they used is typical of a break up. Thinking this is an insanity effect is really unrealistic at this point but let me tell you I would be the first to admit I was wrong and laughing while doing it.

mouse_clicker · « **Reply #173 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:06:49 AM »

Silicon Knights has released 2 Gamecube games, one of which is less than month old- it's not because of sales. And look, I'll be the first to admit I'm wrong if this does turn out to be real, but like I said, it being joke sounds a hell of a lot more believable than anything you guys have come up with.

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #174 on:** April 14, 2004, 04:15:38 AM »

It's all because Dennis politely asked Iwata to get him some coffee, this ANGERED Iwata who brought the coffee back with sweet'n'low in it, causing Dennis to flip out demanding it be returned with urine in it, at this stage Iwata pelted Dennis with wads of cookie dough for several hours.

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Author Topic: Silicon Knights and Nintendo break up (Read 93384 times)