Author Topic: New Final Fantasy Rumors (Read 10023 times)

KDR_11k · « **Reply #25 on:** February 22, 2004, 09:14:35 PM »

I think we shouldn't reduce Square to FF, they could just as well make a new series for Nintendo (only if N offered them enough incentives to do so, though). Without the FF name there are no specific expectations of the game and they'd be free to do as they please.

Sirmorphix · « **Reply #26 on:** February 22, 2004, 10:02:53 PM »

I wish this was true, but I feel it in my heart that it is not.

Mannypon · « **Reply #27 on:** February 22, 2004, 10:54:29 PM »

I hope they retire ff in a few yrs, dragonq has a few more sequels in it though since it takes so long for those to come out. Square should start a new franchise though, it is only a name all they need to do is get the staff and production value onto another project.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #28 on:** February 23, 2004, 04:54:50 AM »

They won't stop, the name is the only thing that's selling those games! Okay, maybe some people like the graphics or the story. Maybe some are even weird enough as to like the gameplay, but come on, those people are a minority! [/not serious]

nemo_83 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 23, 2004, 05:30:45 AM »

This would make Cube look even more like a rehash machine full of remakes, ports, gimicks, and instalations of twenty year old franchises with nothing new. If they did it all gimicked out again like FFCC then that will really hurt Nintendo more. Not only does it present the gimicky image, but it also paints a picture of Nintendo systems not being able to sale games just because noone can aford to play these $600 games. It makes Nintendo, a company grounded in innovation, originality, refinement, ambition, artfullness, and revolution or change; look very unoriginal and lacking ambition. It causes them to seem like nothing more than refining rather than redefining.

I want new games. I have nothing against remakes or franchises, but I really feel that the market is way too stale and in need fresh ideas. When they do come up with a new idea they just bend it into fitting one of their formulated franchises.

Look at last gen. One of the most acclaimed games was Goldeneye. This gen Halo. The gen before last Street Fighter, Sonic, Star Fox, etc. The gen before that basically established more franchises than any. There has been a continual dwindling of creation in the industry, and I find it very disheartening. The future may hold nothing for gaming for real for once.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #30 on:** February 23, 2004, 06:20:35 AM »

" If they did it all gimicked out again like FFCC then that will really hurt Nintendo more. Not only does it present the gimicky image, but it also paints a picture of Nintendo systems not being able to sale games just because noone can aford to play these $600 games."

Wow, whoever sold you that copy sure ripped you off, cause I only payed 50 dollars...

nemo_83 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 23, 2004, 06:26:02 AM »

six hundred bucks is a rounded figure of how much it will cost you if you don't have a Cube or GBA and want to play this game. So lets say you already got a $300 PS2 back at launch for FF games also and now want to play FF11 as well as FFCC. You're going to have to take out a loan to stay a FF fan. You may luck out and have friends with GBAs and GCs and love FF, but most of us would find it easier to go online and find friends.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #32 on:** February 23, 2004, 06:47:21 AM »

Well you shouldn't be buying the systems if you aren't in it for the long-run...

And lol, let's hear it for pay-to-play...

Ian Sane · « **Reply #33 on:** February 23, 2004, 07:10:29 AM »

I really doubt that Square would remake any of their games on the Cube for a couple of reasons.

1. Ever since the merger with Enix they seem to be adapting more to the Enix policy of "market leader ONLY". Their Cube enthusiasm has been pretty much non-existent since the merger.

2. Square has denied the potential release of any PS2 remakes because the old PSX games are still playable on one console. Since every (traditional) FF game ever made except ff3 is playable on the PS2 I highly doubt they would suddenly release any of them on another console. Their focus is to make old classics playable on current hardware. They overall aren't very port happy since they haven't even ported their old games to the GBA which would be such an easy cash-in thing to do. FFVII is playable on current hardware so thus no remake.

I'm not expecting any FF remakes on the Cube. In fact I'm not expecting any more Square Enix games on the Cube period. FFCC only exists so they can make GBA games.

The Omen · « **Reply #34 on:** February 23, 2004, 11:53:45 AM »

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I'm not expecting any FF remakes on the Cube. In fact I'm not expecting any more Square Enix games on the Cube period. FFCC only exists so they can make GBA games

How true. But where are all those people who were saying Square/Enix would release even more GC games? The only way a FF game would be released on the GC, remade or not, is
1. Nintendo says get off the GBA gravy train until you give GC more than just FFCC(though they might just go to the PSP anyway)
2. SK or Retro do all the work and S/E get money for doing nothing
3. Nintendo becomes number 1 again next gen.(although i'd say screw you, but thats not good business, is it?)

Since most all of these are unlikely, ( i'd hope for #1) ,forget about FF. Go get a PS2, or better yet, go play the real FF games on an emulator.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #35 on:** February 23, 2004, 11:57:56 AM »

"SK or Retro do all the work and S/E get money for doing nothing"

Either of them could easily do a better job than SE on most of their later ones... :puke:

KDR_11k · « **Reply #36 on:** February 23, 2004, 07:58:42 PM »

Aren't there enough little dev houses with former S-E employees that could help in making similar games? I mean, they just need to deliver graphics and story, if N puts Miyamoto on the case we'll likely see some really interesting games. Okay, probably won't work like that, but little devs are easy to tide over if you offer them financial security.

akdaman1 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 23, 2004, 10:31:04 PM »

I agree with Ian San that I wont expect anymore Square-Enix games for the GCN , why ? Because right now they are already tied up with all the PS2 rpgs and upcoming games for the PSP ( which I believe will get all of Square-Enix support ).

Mannypon · « **Reply #38 on:** February 23, 2004, 11:08:41 PM »

I couldve sworn that site administrators ie. bloodworth (I'm not quiton him though) in this site and others have said that according to what they've heard and sources within the industry are saying that squareenix still has at least 1 more project planned for gamecube.

WesDawg · « **Reply #39 on:** February 24, 2004, 04:37:53 AM »

That complaint about FF fans having to buy to consoles to play the games makes me laugh a lot. I remember being pissed when they started making FF games for the first PS1 and ditched Nintendo back then too. I guess its sorta reasonable, but don't go around pretending the game itself costs $600. It costs $50. A GC costs $99 and a GBA for you costs $70-$90. Both of the later two have a ton of great other uses than just playing FFCC. If all you ever play on them is FF you're a fool.

As for Square not liking to do ports, they just released versions of FF1 for mobile phones in Japan. They don't seem to mind doing them at all. And I still don't buy this, "Nintendo told Square if they wanted to make games for the GB they had to make a FF for the Cube" argument. There are plenty of big companies out there that release good games on the GBA and not the Cube, Konami being the biggest in my mind. I think we'll see something else. It seems like Nintendo and whoever made FFCC get along pretty well, and the man enjoys the Cube he said. I don't know why they wouldn't make something else. I sorta hope its just a new classic RPG more than a port. I'm sick of ports.

DrZoidberg · « **Reply #40 on:** February 24, 2004, 05:16:18 AM »

allthough this thread is TLDR, i did read the first post, but, say they did remake 7-8-9 for GCN or what ever, would there really be any incentive to rebuy them? i mean you all know the story, aside from graphical and audiological updates what else could they put into it to make it worth your time?

unless ofcourse you haven't played 7-8-9

The Omen · « **Reply #41 on:** February 24, 2004, 05:21:45 AM »

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They don't seem to mind doing them at all. And I still don't buy this, "Nintendo told Square if they wanted to make games for the GB they had to make a FF for the Cube" argument. There are plenty of big companies out there that release good games on the GBA and not the Cube, Konami being the biggest in my mind

And who has said Konami is the measuring stick? Everybody knows what Konami is doing. It doesn't make Square /Enix anymore unlikely to totally abandon the GC now. Konami has released games for the GC, just sh!t ones. Square released 1 okay game, and an offshoot at that. 1! If they decide to release another, great. But it looked obvious from the start that they just wanted in on the lucrative GBA market. I believe the contract/agreement stated they had to make an original game for GC in order to produce GBA games.

Mannypon · « **Reply #42 on:** February 24, 2004, 09:34:58 AM »

I think we'll be seein more square games on nintendo systems besides the handhelds. I remember hearing a while back that alot of square employees wanted the company to do work with nintendo again and in fear of them leaving and branching off to form smaller companies (hence the new companies we have now that consist of ex square em) square is putting more of an effort into the gamecube.
Also, leave it to nintendo fanboys ( dont flame me, I'm one too but I know how alot of us fanboys are quick to bash nintendo for their decisions) to complain bout ff:cc and all its requirements. I know it costs alot if you want to get the most out of it. But I dont you wont hear sony fanboys b*tchin when ff11 drops and they have to buy the game, plus harddrive, plus adapter to connect online plus monthly fees (and thats all assuming they already have an isp cuase if not, add monthly fees for that too) which in the long run will make it an even bigger investment than ff:cc.

kennyb27 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 24, 2004, 10:22:13 AM »

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Aren't there enough little dev houses with former S-E employees that could help in making similar games?

They could. But one of the reasons Final Fantasy games sell is because they have the name Final Fantasy imprinted right on the top of the box.

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Not only does it present the gimicky image, but it also paints a picture of Nintendo systems not being able to sale games just because noone can aford to play these $600 games.

This complaint doesn't make sense to me. If you don't want to spend the money on the game (yeah, singular) then don't buy it. I have two friends, both have GBA's, and when I bought FF:CC, I put down an extra $20 and picked up two GBA-GCN link cables (as I had one from SA2:B). That night my friends came over and we sat and played FF:CC for 5 hours straight. I can honestly say it is one of the most fun and addicting multiplayer games I've ever played (hopefully I can get a review up soon). So let's see if I can follow nemo's logic here, I spent $70 to play FF:CC and it was worth every penny.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2004, 10:29:30 AM »

I belive FFCC was a game meant to be marketted to GBA owners w/ GameCubes. Not the other way around. GBA's installed base dwarfs GCN's.

Uglydot · « **Reply #45 on:** February 24, 2004, 12:53:29 PM »

I do believe konami has put a few games on GCN, they just sucked. And they are doing MGS. So buy it.

Nephilim · « **Reply #46 on:** February 24, 2004, 02:18:23 PM »

sword of mana wasnt made by square-enix, it was published by them

only one game from sqaure so far which is a true FF game, I hope they make another orginal FF game...
Maybe a overhall on FF64 and turn it into a orginal game (waits for lamers who "claim" it was only a vid/spec demo heh) Since that was it the making along time ago and they proberly have the code somewere in there warehouse
*hands square a dust buster*

Bloodworth · « **Reply #47 on:** February 24, 2004, 03:44:50 PM »

Actually Nintendo was the publisher of Sword of Mana. Brownie Brown (who developed the original games) was the developer. Square probably didn't do much with it besides oversee BB.

Mannypon · « **Reply #48 on:** February 24, 2004, 05:05:17 PM »

I wish they'd do somethin with that ff64 demo. I still remember the pics I saw. That game wouldve been perfect, graphics made me feel as if it was goin to be the first true next gen rpg yet still holding on to the oldschool feel. Plus the fact that they used characters from ff6 in the demo helped since ff6 is IMO the best in the series.

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