Topic: GCN 2 possibly delayed...

[Ian Sane]

Summary of NOA's response:

"It's all a bunch of phooey."

Thank God.

[Mario]

Damn, denied. I really hope the next Nintendo console doesn't come out until at least the end of 2006. GCN launched here halfway through 2002, if GCN2 comes out in 2005 then that's a pathetic 2-3 year lifespan. I'm already hearing some of my friends saying they're not getting a GCN because they're waiting for the next Nintendo console, to which i respond with "WTF". GameCube still has lots of life in it left.

I say bring back long lifespans

[Nile Boogie]

Whoa now ladies, lets not get too upset. For one, "NINTENDO IS NOT SEGA". Sega didn't fall from silly add ons, they fell because bootlegs of DreamCast games were as easy to come buy as milk, eggs and cheese. They fell because of a lack of focus and commitment. They fell because Sega never had the stronghold of loyal fans the Nintendo and now, Sony has. Ask yourself a ?  Are you happy with the way your games look(Graphics, Resolution, etc)? Are you happy with the way your games sounds(Dolby Pro logic II 7.1)?  Are you happy with the way your games play? If so, than what would you do to improve the quality of your Nintendo Gaming Experince? Add-ons wont kill Nintendo. If you paid attention to the little things they have been saying than you had to know that these add-ons were coming. Here is a quote from the hardware section of the Winter2002 Nintendo Catolog: "...and allow the Nintendo GameCube to easily adapt to future technology." They've been saying since day one that this was going to happen so I have faith that a planed move such as this will not go as the public may think. "Cube or go home" Summer 2004.


Plus, MS is having a very big problem with the direction of "NeXboX" and I think that has a whole lot to do with this "Delay".  

[Pinnacle]

I dont want to see new consoles until 2007-2008 to be honest. I know alot of people who just got into this gen recently. Not everyone can afford 200-300 dollar consoles no matter how much they like games. I do not want to see gaming become a "haves and the have nots" medium where there is a division between the mainly "early adopting" rich and the "wait until I can afford it" poor.



Ive fought over at TXB to voice concern about a 2005-6 Xbox 2 launch and I am consistent with that sentiment  regarding all consoles. i dont want anyone to release a next gen system until 2007-2008. I cant afford to just keep shelling out this money for games and i certainly cant keep buying a expensive system whenever a console manufacter deems it neccessary for me to do so.  I have to save up stinkin' change and wait for games to drop down to 20-30 bucks most of the time! All i can say to the console makers looking to launch early is "Get Real!".

[Armed]

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Originally posted by: Mario
Damn, denied. I really hope the next Nintendo console doesn't come out until at least the end of 2006. GCN launched here halfway through 2002, if GCN2 comes out in 2005 then that's a pathetic 2-3 year lifespan. I'm already hearing some of my friends saying they're not getting a GCN because they're waiting for the next Nintendo console, to which i respond with "WTF". GameCube still has lots of life in it left.

I say bring back long lifespans

Yup me too, its too soon..

[Pinnacle]

Both statements could be correct. If all three systems launched in 2007 then the Nikkei report AND the NOA PR move/correction would be right. They might be playing with semantics here.




If I am right then we get the best of both worlds.lol

[Draygaia]

Well theres always DS and GBA as Nintendo products.  If they release their next console then DS will be hard to get.  I'm not a money maker.

[mouse_clicker]

I myself would be content if the current generation lasted  quite a bit longer, but I also want Nintendo to launch their next console at the same time Microsoft and Sony launch theirs.

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Whoa now ladies, lets not get too upset. For one, "NINTENDO IS NOT SEGA". Sega didn't fall from silly add ons, they fell because bootlegs of DreamCast games were as easy to come buy as milk, eggs and cheese.

WRONG. The Dreamcast failed because of a combination of Sega's ineptitude at managing a console and Sony's constant PS2 hype- piracy had nothing to do with the Dreamcast's death. If that were true, the Playstation, the best selling console in history, would have failed as well, consider it was also the most pirated console in history. Piracy just doesn't have that big of an effect on the industry. Maybe Sega's add ons specifically didn't bring about their downfall, but they represented Sega's inability to effectively market a console.

[Ian Sane]

"GCN launched here halfway through 2002, if GCN2 comes out in 2005 then that's a pathetic 2-3 year lifespan."

Sorry Australian launch date doesn't count.    Seriously though you were comparing the Aus launch date to the N5 US launch date.  No matter what that will seem shorter than it should be.  If the N5 came out in 2005 Australia would likely still have to wait until 2006 thus giving the Cube a 4 year lifespan.  It's all moot anyway.  I don't want something earlier but I don't want something really late either.  Just match the PS3 and I'll be happy whether it be in 2005 or 2006.

[Nile Boogie]

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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker
I myself would be content if the current generation lasted  quite a bit longer, but I also want Nintendo to launch their next console at the same time Microsoft and Sony launch theirs.


WRONG. The Dreamcast failed because of a combination of Sega's ineptitude at managing a console and Sony's constant PS2 hype- piracy had nothing to do with the Dreamcast's death. If that were true, the Playstation, the best selling console in history, would have failed as well, consider it was also the most pirated console in history. Piracy just doesn't have that big of an effect on the industry. Maybe Sega's add ons specifically didn't bring about their downfall, but they represented Sega's inability to effectively market a console.

Piracy: Sega reported a loss of over $200million dollors from piracy of DreamCast Software for fiscal year 2000. You are right that piracy doesnt effect the industy on the whole but combine that knida loss coupled with the foolishness that they called direction and you have failure. PS was the most pirated system ever but people were still buying games in addition to the undergroud bootlegs.

Delay: I hope it happens so that by 200X I will have finally beaten Viewtiful Joe.  

[Mario]

Not just Australia, all PAL regions, which is the whole of Europe as well, only the second largest videogame market in the world.

Plus when something launches in the US, it's basically already being talked about everywhere else. And a 4 year lifespan still isn't long enough.

Meh, whatever

[mouse_clicker]

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Piracy: Sega reported a loss of over $200million dollors from piracy of DreamCast Software for fiscal year 2000. You are right that piracy doesnt effect the industy on the whole but combine that knida loss coupled with the foolishness that they called direction and you have failure. PS was the most pirated system ever but people were still buying games in addition to the undergroud bootlegs.

Actually, I believe it was closer to $150 million, and I believe it was due mainly to Sega's price cuts that did very little to stimulate sales. Find where Sega themselves said they lost $200 million to piracy specifically and I'll believe you. Otherwise, piracy to Sega was one very small chip in a block that was already filled with cracks.  

[joshnickerson]

I was freaking out, until I did the math and figured out that the article basically said the next Nintendo console wouldn't be for at least two more years... which we already knew anyway. Just another press release spewing bile about Nintendo, what else is new.
And I probably won't be getting into the next generation right away anyway.

[mouse_clicker]

Also, hasn't Sony and Microsoft said they plan to launch their next consoles in 2006? And hasn't Nintendo said they will launch their next system at the same time as their competitors, no sooner and no later? So then why are we all expecting Nintendo's next console to be launched in 2005, as in next year? I think we have quite a while, 2 years at least, to wait for the next generation.  

By the way, check out IGNCube's latest mailbag- they admitted that the quote from Iwata used in the article was lifted from a prior interview, and everything about the periphrials is pure speculation (according to NOA itself). It still may be true, but what IGN (and apparently Gamespot) have reported is far from a confirmation.

[Bill Aurion]

Die, stupid rumor...

"First -- much of the Nikkei article is speculation. Mr. Iwata's comments are from a prior interview and not in direct response to the subjects raised in the article," said Nintendo of America's director of public relations Beth Llewlyn. "Second -- We are staying in the hardware business. We're working on our next generation console system and will launch it at the same time as our competitors."

(Look in Talkback for a similar report)

[Bloodworth]

I'm killing this overhyped "news" right now.  All it means is that there won't be a new console until 2006, which is what it looks like Sony and Nintendo seem to be aiming for anyways.