Author Topic: the end of humanity (Read 50693 times)

nolimit19 · « **Reply #100 on:** October 17, 2003, 05:21:46 AM »

there is cussing is cussing in almost every show....to argue that shows wont cuss just because they can is already proven wrong by a recent cnn study of prime time network television. and like i said before...things in public cant be just accepted or ignored...of something in public offends people, you cant just tell the people it offends to leave.....you cant just go out and have protests whenever you want...did you know that?? you have to get a lisence, and if you dont riot police will come and put the smack down.

The Omen · « **Reply #101 on:** October 17, 2003, 06:43:46 AM »

Mouse-clicker-we are arguing two different points. While in theory i am fine with cursing, i am also at the age to understand it. I couldn't care less about swearing. But that isn't the focal point of most peoples stance against it. Its children who watch T.V at an astounding rate that i worry about. Parents can't be watching them like a hawk every second of the day, especially single parents, who have the hardest job of them all. Can't you just hear the ads right now? 'The show your parents don't want you to see' . People give these T.V. execs too much credit. Having met a few, i can say that for the most part they are money hungry slime , trying to push the envelope because they arent creative enough to come up with original, out of the norm ideas. They have to use nudity and cursing to set the crap shows apart. Plus, they didn't like my script, so screw you ABC! Sorry...

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #102 on:** October 17, 2003, 01:20:01 PM »

Again, the FCC gave them the right to do it, where did you see nudity in it? You keep crossing the line and saying 'well if they can show a breast, they are going to be airing porn!' wow, give me a break. What is it that made the FCC decide that the networks can do it, public concent, pure and simple.

What is really getting on my nerves is the whole nudity thing though. I mean honestly, how many basic cable channels do you know of that show nudity? If so what time does it come on? Now take that one step further. The big networks receive massive contracts for advertising and if their ratings drop you can be sure that they will want to find out what the hell is going on. If the networks see that shows with the F word become less popular, guess what, they will start cutting them out of the script.

Mouse's statement is pretty much true, if you don't buy they won't sell.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #103 on:** October 17, 2003, 02:34:46 PM »

think about it this way...how many cable channels had porn on at all 20 years ago?? its spreading to every aspect of tv and the networks are next, and if you cnat see that, then i dunno know what to say. this is just one of the steps leading to that point.

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #104 on:** October 17, 2003, 02:58:48 PM »

None, but everything is relitive. If f*ck becomes quite a common word like damn is, then f*ck will just be the next generation's 'damn'.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #105 on:** October 17, 2003, 03:00:17 PM »

Which is pretty sad now, isn't it?

The Omen · « **Reply #106 on:** October 17, 2003, 03:25:17 PM »

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Which is pretty sad now, isn't it? isgust

absolutely. This isn't evolving, its called deterioration.

Manunited4eva22-there is more nudity now then there was 20 years ago definately. I've seen it on NYPD blue, the U.S.A. NETWORK, and on 'news' shows such as 48 hours.

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None, but everything is relitive. If f*ck becomes quite a common word like damn is, then f*ck will just be the next generation's 'damn'.

I happen to think f*** is more common right now. And it still is a much more powerful word than damn, because it means something a lot different than damn. If you're fine with that, good for you.

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. The big networks receive massive contracts for advertising and if their ratings drop you can be sure that they will want to find out what the hell is going on. If the networks see that shows with the F word become less popular, guess what, they will start cutting them out of the script.

We know its all about rating, but that doesn't make it right. And i can tell you if a show performs badly, they aren't going to cut the language out. They will just think its the show that stinks. Once you start this, you dont go back and say You know what? we made a mistake. No more cursing on TV Once it happens its for good.

nolimit19 · « **Reply #107 on:** October 17, 2003, 03:47:55 PM »

it is sad.....i do believe that the f word will always piss people off as long as i am around. the topic is obviously bigger then just the f word...and no matter how much you say it doesnt, the f word still offends many people.....smoking was extremely popular way back when...and still is today. its taken years for america to understand its stupidness and people still smoke. we pay dearly for it with medicare and medicaid not to mention thousands of deaths a year. and the f word being allowed on tv could lead to similar things. porn will always be detramental to the human pysche. that wont change. and we see all these child rapists that came out of the 60's to present....it used to be that kids could do whatever on holloween...and maybe go down to the good ole sand lot for some ball after school. if they do that today...sure percentage wise they are decently safe, but you never know anymore. i dunno if you guys saw the girl being groped by some fool in a department store with her mother 2 feet away. the point is, since the degrading of the importance and signifigance of sex, things have gotten worse...when porn becomes standard on network tv it could kill america. the fword will only help lead to this type of society.....aw forget it...sure porn is great everyone embrace it and lets all have 2 divorces and raise 3 kids single. this is america at its greatest.

Mario · « **Reply #108 on:** October 17, 2003, 03:52:15 PM »

I would like to see swear words and nudity as a common thing in society.

nitsu niflheim · « **Reply #109 on:** October 17, 2003, 03:56:52 PM »

Would you now? So you are what, sitting at your computer naked swearing at everything and everybody that crosses your path?

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #110 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:08:29 PM »

WHERE THE F*** ARE MY PANTS?!?!

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #111 on:** October 17, 2003, 04:58:05 PM »

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I happen to think f*** is more common right now.

Perhaps this is different for different areas of English speaking, but this is certainly not the case for my area.

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And it still is a much more powerful word than damn, because it means something a lot different than damn. If you're fine with that, good for you.

Words do eventually lose/change their meaning. Most of the time I hear the 'F word', it is used as an exclamation, not it's original meaning. Once again though, this could just be because of localization of language. The word 'bastard', for example, has had it's original meaning abolished, because it was rarely used as it should have been, and that lead to misunderstandings when it was. Maybe the 'f word' will end up to be the same, maybe it won't.

Neither of us can rightfully claim to be a batter judge than the other on this, so I guess we'll just have to see how this pans out. If the shows that use the 'f word' lose too many ratings because it offends too many people, then the ruling will have no effect anyway, if the shows that use the 'f word' have no change in ratings, then f*** really has lost it's meaning.

The Omen · « **Reply #112 on:** October 17, 2003, 06:34:40 PM »

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I would like to see swear words and nudity as a common thing in society.

They are a common thing in society. Where are we to turn to get our kids away from it if it becomes status quo? Its not just the word f***, its the route that we're taking, and thats just the beginning, i can assure you.

Mario · « **Reply #113 on:** October 17, 2003, 09:03:56 PM »

Thats just the beginning? What would be after that then? A new word? L***P YOU!!!?

Ocarina Blue · « **Reply #114 on:** October 17, 2003, 09:13:03 PM »

But as soon as words become common in usage, they lose their offencive edge. There are other words to describe what most current swear words do, and randomly yelling those at someone probobly isn't going to offend them. This is not the beginning, this has been happening for a long time. 100 years ago, skirts that didn't cover the whole of a woman's legs were considered to be unacceptable, especialy for older people. 100 years ago, words that are common usage today were highly offensive. I see no evidence to suggest that this is any different.

Mario · « **Reply #115 on:** October 17, 2003, 09:14:48 PM »

I guess people are going to have to be more creative then. You poo faces.

The Omen · « **Reply #116 on:** October 18, 2003, 06:42:03 AM »

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But as soon as words become common in usage, they lose their offencive edge. There are other words to describe what most current swear words do, and randomly yelling those at someone probobly isn't going to offend them. This is not the beginning, this has been happening for a long time. 100 years ago, skirts that didn't cover the whole of a woman's legs were considered to be unacceptable, especialy for older people. 100 years ago, words that are common usage today were highly offensive. I see no evidence to suggest that this is any different.

But covering legs or uncovering legs hurts or offends no one. It was a stupid mans idea to have more control over women. F*** IS AS COMMON AS A WORD AS YOU'LL FIND. The word F*** has been around for over 100 years here, and it still has a negative meaning. In theory, if we all would just say we're going to not worry about words, because thats all they are, i'd be fine with that. It would save me, and a lot of people, all kinds of headaches, but until that day comes, i think its inappropriate for it to be on TV. Thats the crux of my argument-the TV part.

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #117 on:** October 18, 2003, 08:20:38 AM »

Well didn't you just hit the point on the head? Society has deemed that it is acceptable in some forms?

The Omen · « **Reply #118 on:** October 18, 2003, 10:09:54 AM »

I'm not following what you mean. I am against cursing on network TV. I dont want my kids watching something far worse than this in 10 years, but thats what will happen.

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #119 on:** October 18, 2003, 11:04:00 AM »

My point is that the FCC has stepped in and said, most people will agree on that the F word should be able to be put into shows if the network decides they will allow it.

If you don't want your kids to watch it, there are still v-chips..

The Omen · « **Reply #120 on:** October 18, 2003, 11:33:32 AM »

Then why wouldn't they let everything through if the V-chip is so effective? They're not even used, and most parents wouldn't know what to do anyway, as most children are more technically gifted than them. And i, for one, do not let a group of 12 old men(FCC) tell me what is right. They've been wrong many times before. Its pretty funny that they find it ok , seeing as they've busted Howard Sterns balls for 20 years about words as mundane as 'tits'. They say you cant say 'jerkoff' on the air, but F*** is ok? Ridiculous.

manunited4eva22 · « **Reply #121 on:** October 18, 2003, 05:01:34 PM »

You know the ironic thing is, they already said why. They are against sexually conotative things, as it has been made clear by their statements, which can explain why they bust stern's balls. Again, guess what, people care more about a boob than they do about a word.

Blame society, both rules are arbitrary whether you say one is or not.

cubefreak123 · « **Reply #122 on:** October 18, 2003, 05:05:24 PM »

this is all bs. I believe all "family programs" shouldnt have profanity, but should be clean and made so that all familys can enjoy them. these ppl saying that the f word should be allowed is garbage, there controlling are lives.

ThePerm · « **Reply #123 on:** October 18, 2003, 05:33:45 PM »

Fuzz!

cubefreak123 · « **Reply #124 on:** October 18, 2003, 05:50:10 PM »

u no what i have no idea what i just said in that earlier post so just ignore it, i make no sense sometimes.

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