Topic: GTA=Severly overrated

[JB]

I thought myself that GTAIII was ok, but severely overrated. Vice City on the other hand, is a game I can't get enough of. I'm not that far into the game yet(thanks to the tropical weather we are getting over here!). I am not that bothered if I can play it on the GameCube or not, as I can already play it on my pc, but I probably would buy it if it came out on the GameCube.
You can't go comparing two games based on sales figures. Sales figures only show how well a game sells, not how people like it or how good a game is.  That Tellytubbies song for example sold a lot better than many songs from talented artists. It doesn't mean that everyone that bought the CD prefers the musical talent of the Tellytubbies to that of Linkin Park(the first name that popped into my head).  

[egman]

Like the_zombie_luke, I'm not really bashing the game either. I've never been enamoured by the GTA series so I could care less about what it's exclusive to, so this isn't an exclusivity matter. It's no different than me not liking Rare either before or after Nintendo sold them off.

I'm also not implying that Nintendo is always innovative. Indeed much of their work these days and even the past has been more refinement rather than something new. Games like Wario Ware, Animal Crossing, and Pikmin are a step in the right direction, but Nintendo has not gone as far as they implied they would. They are hurting themselves in that sense.

But I'm still of the opinion that GTA success was more the result of timing more than anything else. If GTA was such revolutionary experince, then where the hell was everyone when Rockstar made roughly the same game two prequels ago?

[Grey Ninja]

I got a copy of GTA3 for PC, just so I could see for myself what the hubbub was about.  I was seriously unimpressed.  My reasons are remarkably similar to Denis Dyack's and the first poster.

I don't feel like going further into detail, and I need to get some sleep.

[mouse_clicker]

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But I'm still of the opinion that GTA success was more the result of timing more than anything else. If GTA was such revolutionary experince, then where the hell was everyone when Rockstar made roughly the same game two prequels ago?

They weren't 3D- even the people who hate GTA3 have to admit that it's funner in 3D than with that goofy bird's eye view from GTA1 and GTA2. When working with something like a full blown city, actually being able to SEE the buildings and recognize them AS buildings makes a world of difference.

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Also, the AI is outdated. Cops will not follow you up high buildings and even the SWAT team isn't intelligent and the only way the cops and SWAT's can stop you is with sheer numbers.

The AI is FUN. If the cops in Liberty and Vice City acted the way *real* cops do, it wouldn't be fun at all (or even less fun for you). Real police chases involve the cops following very far behind so as not to endanger any bystanders, and there's hardly ever a shoot out. Real cops wouldn't send tanks and helicopters after 1 criminal. Real cops are a lot smarter and would bust you when you were least expecting it. THAT'S no fun. The AI in GTA3 and Vice City are such that they give you the greatest challenge of escaping while still having immense fun.

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I think the high point of the game is the soundtrack. But even then, old 80's music can't stand up to the glorious orchestrated music of Smash Bros and Metroid Prime's catchy score.

Why are you even comparing the two? SSBM and Metroid Prime are two very different games even between themselves, much less with GTA thrown into the mix. Just because you don't happen to like old 80's music that much (listen to GTA3 if you want more modern stuff) doesn't mean SSBM and MP's music are any better. Plus, have you ever listened to the talk radio in either GTA game? Some of the funniest stuff in a videogame ever, if you ask me.

As much as you guys may try to stop it, all this thread is a GTA bash- that's ALL it is. There's absolutely no point for it. It'd be like me going to an XBox board and saying Zelda is overhyped and nowhere near as good as anything on the XBox (Blinx's music is SO much better). Come one, people.  

[the_zombie_luke]

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Why are you even comparing the two? SSBM and Metroid Prime are two very different games even between themselves, much less with GTA thrown into the mix. Just because you don't happen to like old 80's music that much (listen to GTA3 if you want more modern stuff) doesn't mean SSBM and MP's music are any better. Plus, have you ever listened to the talk radio in either GTA game? Some of the funniest stuff in a videogame ever, if you ask me.

As much as you guys may try to stop it, all this thread is a GTA bash- that's ALL it is. There's absolutely no point for it. It'd be like me going to an XBox board and saying Zelda is overhyped and nowhere near as good as anything on the XBox (Blinx's music is SO much better). Come one, people.

I have several 80's CD's and I actually do like the soundtrack. Vice City also allows users on the PC to drop MP3's into a folder and make their own station. But the point of the matter is Vice City is just licensed music and while it's a good soundtrack, I would rather have orchestrated music. It's just a personal opinion.

You keep saying this thread is about bashing GTA, but you keep ignoring the fact that we have legitimate criticisms about the game but most of us posted that we still enjoy the game. Just because I dislike certain parts of the game doesn't mean I hate the game. I just wish reviewers would address GTA's problems. No reviewer ever said how glitchy GTA III and Vice City were. That should tell you something right there. I even have problems with Eternal Darkness and Wind Waker. It doesn't mean I'm out to bash them. You're correct that most of these threads turn into blind bashing sessions, but I have not see anyone post something that was not legitimate and sincere. This thread is much better than the "Nintendo is kiddy"  threads or the threads where players bash games they have not played on various sites. We may have certain problems about GTA, but we still play it and enjoy it.

[PIAC]

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   But I'm still of the opinion that GTA success was more the result of timing more than anything else. If GTA was such revolutionary experince, then where the hell was everyone when Rockstar made roughly the same game two prequels ago?



They weren't 3D- even the people who hate GTA3 have to admit that it's funner in 3D than with that goofy bird's eye view from GTA1 and GTA2. When working with something like a full blown city, actually being able to SEE the buildings and recognize them AS buildings makes a world of difference.

too be totally honest, i prefer gta 1 and 2 to gta 3 the 2d is alot of fun, and i would have prefered if gta3 was in 2d

[KnowsNothing]

The only GTA game I've ever played is vice city. And honestly, I don't care I ever play another GTA game in my life.  

[rpglover]

i have to agree with zombie_luke here- i dont hate gta that much but it really is over hyped
i own a ps2 and i dont think that the gta series on it really are the games to own on that console
there are better games out there than just gta- deus ex does give you more freedom in a game
but gta isnt supposed to be the greatest technical marvel or game, but the game is fun for a time at least
although the game is fun to finish the missions and do mass killings from time to time, it gets old to me after the missions are over- once they are done, the game doesnt really feel as fun as you dont have a point to play the game
personally once you get a hooker, run over people, and do mass killings to get the stars up as high as can be, then basically you have seen the game and what people like- it just gets too old to me
this probably sounds odd coming from a person who loves ikaruga to death, but that is just my feeling