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Re: Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Switch/Wii U) Out now!
« Reply #1175 on: January 25, 2018, 06:21:52 PM »
Red < Blue < Black < Silver < Gold

If you can take on that one, BnM, you can take in the Zora’s Domain one.

I'm guessing I should take on the one just outside the snowy mountain at the end of the bridge outside Kakariko village. I think that was a blue one... and there's a Hinox to kill over there too. I never did explore that cold ass mountain range though. Skipped through it once, but just to get to the other side.
Or I suppose since the one outside of the Zora village is a Red.... that would be the easiest. If I can hang for 3.5 rounds with a Black, then the Blue and Red versions should be much easier. Get Link some stripes on his sleeve.



I left off last time I played right before I had to go fight the Lynel before the Zora dungeon, so now this thread is starting to scare me off. I haven't done any of the other divine beasts yet, so I kind of want to leave and do some other stuff before I come back to this based on what I'm reading here. Would that be a good idea? I've only got like 6 hearts right now.

I'm not really the one to ask, but I would suggest you go be an explorative adventurer and beat some shrines and collect your korok seeds. I practiced against that Black Lynel... and damn, he was tough, but I almost beat him with 11 hearts +2 yellow ones :)
6 hearts you wouldn't even last a single blow without protective armor (upgraded twice) and a fairy or 4 in your pocket :)
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« Reply #1176 on: January 25, 2018, 09:01:23 PM »
No, I'm pretty sure the color refers to their skin, and that alone.

Wait really? I have not been paying attention.

Not quite. It's a mix. For instance, a regular or red Lynel has a black body but a red mane. A Blue-Maned Lynel has a blue body but a purple mane despite the name. A White-Maned Lynel will have a white mane and a zebra like body of black and white. A Silver Lynel can have a black or white mane but it always has a purple and silver striped body to distinguish it. The Gold Lynel has a gold body. The names are a bit weird.
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« Reply #1177 on: January 25, 2018, 09:18:59 PM »
As for Lynel talk, ShyGuy is right about the Gerudo Highland lynels as still being scary but part of that comes from the snowy terrain. In order to counteract the cold and snow, you either need some special potions or meals with you or you need to change your outfit in order to survive. But usually any cold resistant outfit isn't going to be as highly defensive as a couple other pieces like a level 4 Champion's Tunic. Plus, you're going to move slower in the snow unless you equip the snow boots so it can be harder to maneuver in that terrain to avoid attacks. That makes snowbased Lynels one of the hardest variations and you need to know your stuff.

The first time I finally decided to take on a Lynel was in the Gerudo highlands against a White-Maned Lynel. I picked one of the worst possibilities to try fighting those guys and I got butt-kicked over and over. Finally just took it out with an ancient arrow but that meant not getting any loot from it.

The next time I took on a Lynel was in the Zora's Domain region. First I snuck around and got the shock arrows needed so that was done and then I saved my game and went for it. It was a much easier fight. Because I'd done a lot of exploring and the Zora Divine Beast was my second one that I attempted, I had upgraded various pieces of my outfits a bit (though still not quite at their peak levels) and I had some good weapons. I also had given myself an unknown advantage. Since the first Divine Beast I completed was in the Gerudo region, I had Urbosa's Fury which I was also able to use against this Lynel making the fight much easier. That said, when fighting the Zora Domain Lynel, even though I was still learning the attacks of a Lynel and getting hit a bunch, I wasn't losing a whole lot of damage. That's because the Zora Domain Lynel has weaker weapons compared to most Lynels. So the bit of upgrading I had done to the clothes I selected for this battle were enough to really counteract the hits made resulting in me just taking a quarter or half a heart of damage when it did get a blow in on me. I was able to defeat the Lynel in my first attempt. I came back to this Lynel a couple of times after beating it and it respawned from a Blood Moon just to practice abit more in fighting a Lynel and then from that point, I took on any Lynels that came my way and have pretty much been successful.

The only problem was recently facing a Silver Lynel in the Hebra region. I hadn't played the game for a few months so I was rusty and in a snowy terrain resulting in a more difficult fight. I think I got killed 3 or 4 times before finally getting it together.

So, yes, if you want to start taking on Lynels then my advice is to go and take on the Zora Domain Lynel. It's basically like a beginner Lynel and you can find out there if you have what it takes to combat other Lynels out there. It's pretty much the weakest Lynel in the game and it will always respawn as this weak Lynel where Lynels in other areas keep getting upgraded in difficulty over time.
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« Reply #1178 on: January 25, 2018, 09:30:52 PM »
In terms of the chronological series of events, the Divine Beasts have a specific order, which also determines the respective complexity and difficulty of each scenario surrounding them, as well as their interior. Vah Medoh is the easiest, followed by Vah Rudania, Vah Ruta, and lastly Vah Naboris. So if you feel that the tasks surrounding Zora's Domain are too daunting, you could always go to one of the other Divine Beasts and try to figure them out.
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« Reply #1179 on: January 25, 2018, 09:37:05 PM »
I didn't realize there was an order, it was just the first one I stumbled on.
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« Reply #1180 on: January 25, 2018, 09:55:42 PM »
Again, the chronological order refers to the order of the memories that accompany each Divine Beast, but they are also very clearly indicative of the complexity and difficulty of each Divine Beast. You don't have to complete them in that order- I personally did Ruta, Rudania, Naboris, and Medoh myself.
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« Reply #1181 on: January 25, 2018, 11:11:25 PM »
Yeah, you kind of figure out there is an order after you beat them all because you they take awhile and other areas do not. Sadly, I ended up kind of beating them in reverse. I beat the Gerudo beast first which is kind of the hardest and then the Zora beast next which is the 2nd hardest. It set me expecting a lot of story and events to get to a divine beast but when I went to the Rito Beast, which is the easiest, it took very little time to get to the Divine Beast and then the Beast itself wasn't really that difficult. I was expecting the same level of complexity for sidequests and difficulty for all the beasts after the Gerudo one but it was not to be. I ended up taking on the best one first. Having gotten to the Goron Beast, again, it didn't take me long to make headway on getting to the Divine Beast but I left off completing it so that I still had a Divine Beast to play after taking care of exploring the Northwest portion of Hyrule. I left off at the point where I need to rescue/help a Goron by a bridge before we presumably work together on getting me into the Divine Beast and haven't completed it yet. So glad there's the Champion's Ballad now to provide a harder dungeon.

Like Insanolord, reading and helping out BnM has got me wanting to go back and complete my exploration of BotW and I think I'm going to do just that. I'd covered about half the Hebra region when I left off as I worked from there to Eldon to Akkala and covered the Northern part of Hyrule. As expected, it's a bit of a dreary landscape and it doesn't help that it's always kind of foggy/snowy. It's so nice when things clear up for a brief bit so that I can actually see the stars at night or just what the area looks like over a distance. There's been a couple neat things to discover but it just doesn't compare to the sunnier Necluda regions. I even like the Gerudo desert more.
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« Reply #1182 on: January 26, 2018, 10:40:42 AM »
That's interesting that there's an order to them.  I always felt that the game sort of guided me to the Zora's Domain.  You meet the Prince pretty close to Kakariko village, and Zora's domain is between Hateno Village and the Akkala lab, two places the game suggests you go after Kakariko.
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« Reply #1183 on: January 26, 2018, 12:49:01 PM »
I don't really think any of the Divine Beasts are harder than any others. Also I would imagine most people get to Rito Village last, since it's the farthest from the starting point. I say last not counting the Champion's Ballad, since the fifth Divine Beast is actually the closest to the starting point, and it is the actual "last" one. The only boss fight that presented any type of challenge was Thunderblight, until the new boss from the Champion's Ballad...which was probably my favorite fight in the game. I was not expecting that...that whole part of the game is really cool. I like the new loading screen you get too. Time to retry the Trial of the Sword...then finish all of the shrines (88/120, not including the DLC ones)and side quests and upgrade all my inventory slots.
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« Reply #1184 on: January 26, 2018, 01:44:57 PM »
I found Waterblight Ganon somewhat difficult, although it was my first Blight battle. I was also unaware that you could smash his projectiles with the Cryonis Rune, which I finally appreciated in a rematch.

But yes, Thunderblight Ganon is by far the most difficult of the four. I am rather eager to take on the Champion’s Ballad boss in Master Mode, as I expect it to be one of the more difficult challenges present.
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« Reply #1185 on: January 26, 2018, 02:47:17 PM »
I forgot about using Crynosis and Stasis against those in the Illusory realm fight, but I realized it right away during the first go around because you have to do what you mentioned in order to get onto the Divine Beast.
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« Reply #1186 on: January 26, 2018, 09:05:02 PM »
If you fight Ganon without doing any of the Divine Beast you fight the Ganon Blights in this order before Calamity.

1.  Wind
2.  Water
3.  Fire
4.  Thunder

So I imagine this is what Nintendo technically considers their official difficulty guide for each Divine Beast.  Now the first and last choices are very obvious but I found Vah Ruta and Vah Rudania to be pretty equal in difficulty so it's no surprise many switch the two around since they could go either way depending on ones experience.  Nintendo probably considers the heat of Death Mountain and all the lava around the area more of a hazard to players so that area is considered the harder of the two to them.
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« Reply #1187 on: January 26, 2018, 09:48:40 PM »
I'm pretty sure I did water - fire - thunder - wind. I didn't even realize what happened when you fought Ganon without doing the Divine Beasts.
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« Reply #1188 on: January 27, 2018, 02:52:18 AM »
It's odd that Wind is supposed to be first since the King points you to go between the two mountain spires to the east towards Kariko village, and their isn't really anything leading you towards Rito village.

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« Reply #1189 on: January 27, 2018, 05:07:04 AM »
Well, I learned 2 things today

1) The Lynel over by the Zora Domain was brown w/ red hair, and I beat him.
-This Lynel was significantly easier than the Black Lynel with red hair (same powers though)
- this gave me the hoof I needed to solve the final riddle from the Kokoro Village/Forest
- I also was able to stockpile shock arrows

2) There is a 2nd dragon flying around. I was fortunate enough to get a pic and a scale from him.
- I assume there is a 3rd dragon as well based on the space between Dinraal and Farosh on the Compendium
*Someone or some shrine asked for a scale from Dinraal and I had no idea what they were talking about... now I have to locate whatever that place was again (anyone know?)

I also ran across a White-Maned Lynel
- it has the body of a zebra, but I dare not venture towards it as I do not have anymore Hearty Food cooked, and no more weapon slots either.

I also wandered across this blacked out forest area... found the Hinox inside of it. defeated him with the quickness. literally 30 seconds from engaging withing the fight. I wish they were all that quick, but the environment allowed easy paragliding arrow shows at his glowing eye in the darkness. I just realized I never took a pic of the damn thing though... but it was so dark, even with EVERY torch lit, the pic would have been purely to say I captured it, but unable to actually see what it looked like.

This area had me bumping up on the edge of my known map so far, but I backed away from entering a new area just yet. I still need to complete the Zora Divine Beast, and the "Bare Necessities Island", and find that shrine over by Farosh before I feel ready to move on. Oh and Hyrule field leading up to the castle.

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« Reply #1190 on: January 27, 2018, 10:12:54 AM »
A cool trick for Typhlo Ruins (the dark place) is to use Magnesis or Stasis to see the area around you, or to use a fire-based weapon as a torch and light some fires and stuff. You can always go back after a Blood Moon and get a pic (there's a shrine right by him).
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« Reply #1191 on: January 27, 2018, 04:04:11 PM »
Finally tried Trial of the Sword again...30 min attack up * 3 and going in with Max hearts + bonus hearts helps a lot! Going to try defense boost next time. Beat the first 12 levels and saved...Master Sword at 40HP.
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« Reply #1192 on: February 02, 2018, 02:31:20 PM »
I figured I should give you all my Zelda update... I think it's been a week or so, but I've been down with the flu, so I've barely played till yesterday.

Well yesterday my daughter was looking around the map and wanted to go to new places (she the open field explorer who wanders out of her comfort zone, gets into deep doo doo and throws the controller at me to fight some unknown horde of monsters if she can't handle it). SO she found the large Maze Prison Island in the upper right corner of the map. I told her it looked to far to glide to, but she was quite insistent with visiting there.... well, I'm glad I finally gave in an listened to her, because it wasn't too far to glide too.
and after taking out a single Guardian in the entrance (after dodging him for most of the time in the maze) and exploring all the routes on the floor, my daughter suggested I climb to the top.... which was helpful because there was one path on the map that I couldn't get to otherwise. that led us to the shrine.... and then this mysterious shaft of air that lifts me to... nowhere, and the grate is missing.... hmmm.
dungeon exploring it is.

"No dada!! there's a bunch of guardians!!!"
- "Naw.... their all dead, it'll be fine....."
"uh uh... they gonna kill you...."
- "don't jinx me.... I got a bunch of ancient parts to collect"
::Guardian Activates!!!::  panic ensues, shields destroyed, guardian defeated.. ancient parts collected.... all is quiet.
-"Oh look a treasure chest.... Oohh some new helmet" I'm sure you all know what happened next.....

someone tripped the alarm, lasers pointing from everywhere, warning beeps coming from more guardians than I have time to count right now.... can't dodge that many lasers at once. Gotta make a break for the wind stream. Beeping getting faster, stamina deleting, daughter yelling
"Dada I told you so, I told you there were too many guardians, I told you they were gonna kill you!!!"
I make it to the stream, link won't open the glider.... jump again, I can see guardians eyes turning white, gliders opens just as 4 or 5 laser beams just narrowly miss me as I fly quickly upwards.

such intensity after a pretty uneventful maze experience. I didn't expect so much action at the end.
and damn... it took 7 diamonds to upgrade that headpiece twice. I also could only upgrade that Barbarian helmet once since I only beat 1 Lynel.... guess I'll be headed back up to the Zora domain soon and get my Lynel sparring on for a round 2.
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« Reply #1193 on: February 02, 2018, 03:01:17 PM »
I was wondering about the lack of updates. Glad you're feeling better. Epic story!
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« Reply #1194 on: February 02, 2018, 03:23:37 PM »
thanks,

and my daughter is having a blast with these Monster Mask. We ran into the Fang and Bone store guy again recently, and picked up a Lizalfos mask, now she is up on Zora mountian corralling and making friends w/ Lizalfos. She's playing soccer with them as I type this... LMAO.

there are 6 of them standing around her, following her every move. she drops a circle bomb right in their face, they all panic and start whipping it around with their tails. When she gets it setup correctly, they actually chase it and keep hitting it and even sometime it will look like they are really playing soccer as they hit it towards the wrong Lizalfos and he hits it back to them. It's really pretty entertaining.

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« Reply #1195 on: February 02, 2018, 04:30:29 PM »
That's hysterical!
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« Reply #1196 on: February 02, 2018, 10:13:04 PM »
Lol that's awesome.
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« Reply #1197 on: February 02, 2018, 10:18:44 PM »
I think your daughter may have discovered something new as that is one thing I've never heard someone doing or mentioning before. That's pretty amazing. Man, the neat things people keep discovering in this game from its mechanics is part of what makes this such an amazing title.

I'm jumping back into this game because the last couple posts BnM have posted about are kind of spoilers to me. I've long known about the maze island in the top right of the map but never went to visit it yet and I've never seen or been to these dark Typho ruins despite 200+ hours in the game. No more. Time to visit the last few areas I've been working my way towards.
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« Reply #1198 on: February 02, 2018, 10:25:10 PM »
Btw that's a bro-tip for one-hit killing a group of (regular) bokoblins...very useful in the Trial of the Sword DLC. Just roll a bomb in the middle of them (from a distance) - they'll all approach it and you can take them all out with the blast.
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« Reply #1199 on: February 02, 2018, 11:31:30 PM »
Oh, I've done plenty of bombing for Bokoblins.

Then I've done plenty of chameleon (mask) espionage now too

But my favorite thing is to come in like a cold blooded assassin John Wick/James Bond style and take out as many as I can before they even know what hit them.