Topic: Pokémon X and Y Revealed

[Caterkiller]

I wonder how many Ian's and EasyCures are actually out there? I am the pokenut, who in some cases view it as a way of life. I've been playing in tournies and going to events for over a decade now. I make sure my daughter has poke dolls has her primary doll, has over 700 hours on each version and I'm the type who has literally at least 1 of every Pokemon in the box and no space for extras. I was going to buy this regardless, even though I so desperately wanted a facelift.

But now I see guys like IanCure on other forums as well coming out of the woodworks. I predict the 3DS is going to outsell DS with this Pokemon title eclipsing all the others. Nah not really, but wouldn't be surprised.

[TheFleece]

The last Pokemon I played was Silver and before that I only played Yellow. All of the other games did nothing but grab my attention because of the communication features. Eventually I fell out of the loop and then I got into Animal Crossing. This new Pokemon looks rich and dynamic, I can't lie and say that I 'm not interested. I just might pick it up if the rest of the details are exciting.

[EasyCure]

now I just have to decide if I want to get a 3ds now our keep holding on for a redesign...

If you're going to get a 3DS primarily to play this new Pokemon I say wait until after E3. Who knows? They might, indeed, announce a redesign.
 
Waiting would mean not being able to play Fire Emblem for a few months though.
 
Swings and roundabouts.

Oh I wouldn't buy one JUST for Pokemon 3DS, there is a list of games I'd like to play, I just can't justify the price knowing my history with handhelds (never give them the attention they deserve) and considering my luck*, it's better I wait anyway..

Fortunately, I've never really tried the FE series so missing it won't be a big loss

*my luck: I was a slightly poor kid, by the time I saved up enough money to buy my GameBoy Color (my first ever GameBoy) the GBA was announced. I had ALMOST bought a GBA a few years later, can't remember why I didn't, but I remember being glad I didn't because shortly after I had heard about the GBA SP being announced (I still like the original GBA design better though..). When I finally bought a DS - the Mario kart bundle with a red DS Phat - and the DSL was announced shortly after.. so yeah, I didn't want to rush in to a 3DS because of this history.

But now I see guys like IanCure on other forums as well coming out of the woodworks. I predict the 3DS is going to outsell DS with this Pokemon title eclipsing all the others. Nah not really, but wouldn't be surprised.

IanCure sounds like a joint tribute album for Joy Division and The Cure.. I really wish that existed now

PS. you have a daughter!? Where was I when this happened!?!?!?!?

PPS. HOLY ****! THEFLEECE!

[tendoboy1984]

Am I the only one who thinks those overworld graphics are "meh"?

I was expecting more from the 3DS's first real Pokemon game, but this looks barely better than a regular DS game (see Phantom Hourglass & Spirit Tracks). I was hoping we'd see graphics on par with Resident Evil Revelations, Kid Icarus Uprising, and Super Mario 3D Land.

The Pokemon models themselves look fantastic, however. It's just the overworld and trainers that look "bleh".

[tendoboy1984]

*my luck: I was a slightly poor kid, by the time I saved up enough money to buy my GameBoy Color (my first ever GameBoy) the GBA was announced. I had ALMOST bought a GBA a few years later, can't remember why I didn't, but I remember being glad I didn't because shortly after I had heard about the GBA SP being announced (I still like the original GBA design better though..). When I finally bought a DS - the Mario kart bundle with a red DS Phat - and the DSL was announced shortly after.. so yeah, I didn't want to rush in to a 3DS because of this history.

I wouldn't worry about another redesign. They are still selling the XL alongside the original 3DS model.

[EasyCure]

*my luck: I was a slightly poor kid, by the time I saved up enough money to buy my GameBoy Color (my first ever GameBoy) the GBA was announced. I had ALMOST bought a GBA a few years later, can't remember why I didn't, but I remember being glad I didn't because shortly after I had heard about the GBA SP being announced (I still like the original GBA design better though..). When I finally bought a DS - the Mario kart bundle with a red DS Phat - and the DSL was announced shortly after.. so yeah, I didn't want to rush in to a 3DS because of this history.

I wouldn't worry about another redesign. They are still selling the XL alongside the original 3DS model.

XL isn't a redesign though, it's another thing to worry about.. When they make a redesigned model, will they release the XL version along with it or will I have to wait for that version to come out, ugh.

[tendoboy1984]

*my luck: I was a slightly poor kid, by the time I saved up enough money to buy my GameBoy Color (my first ever GameBoy) the GBA was announced. I had ALMOST bought a GBA a few years later, can't remember why I didn't, but I remember being glad I didn't because shortly after I had heard about the GBA SP being announced (I still like the original GBA design better though..). When I finally bought a DS - the Mario kart bundle with a red DS Phat - and the DSL was announced shortly after.. so yeah, I didn't want to rush in to a 3DS because of this history.

I wouldn't worry about another redesign. They are still selling the XL alongside the original 3DS model.

XL isn't a redesign though, it's another thing to worry about.. When they make a redesigned model, will they release the XL version along with it or will I have to wait for that version to come out, ugh.

Um... it IS a redesign. It's bigger than the older model, and it has a completely different look to it (rounded instead of square).

[NWR_insanolord]

It's not a redesign, though, in the sense that it has feature parity with the original model, and the only real difference is the size. Compare that to the various DS redesigns, which all offered new features or more significant improvements (except the DSi XL, which was to the DSi what the 3DS XL was to the 3DS, namely a different size option).

[Chiramii]

http://gematsu.com/2013/01/pokemon-x-and-y-to-boost-franchise-to-over-700-pokemon

Interesting info that should be added to the article.

[TJ Spyke]

http://gematsu.com/2013/01/pokemon-x-and-y-to-boost-franchise-to-over-700-pokemon

Interesting info that should be added to the article.

Um, none of that info is unexpected or surprising. Of course it will boost the total to over 700. The lowest ANY gen has added was Generation II with 100 new Pokemon, and no chance in hell of Generation VI adding less than 51. New merchandise based on X and Y? Duh. Global launch, already mentioned. The game using 3DS's power? Shocker, lol. Etc. Nothing really worth noting.

[Chiramii]

Um, none of that info is unexpected or surprising. Of course it will boost the total to over 700. The lowest ANY gen has added was Generation II with 100 new Pokemon, and no chance in hell of Generation VI adding less than 51. New merchandise based on X and Y? Duh. Global launch, already mentioned. The game using 3DS's power? Shocker, lol. Etc. Nothing really worth noting.

> The game uses an innovative communication system that makes it feel as if you are playing with other players around the world.

> The bonds between players and Pokemon will deepen, And Pokemon will become stronger with the new battle structure.

You're telling me this was expected? I thought this was a very interesting read tbh.

[Caliban]

That Froakie looks pimp.

[TJ Spyke]

Without details, those sound like PR talk. The "innovative" communication system could be simply chatting during battles.

As for the bonds, previous Pokemon games had a bond system with Pokemon and trainers, so how will this be different?

[Caterkiller]

@ EasyCure, you gave me congrats all the way back in March, lol.

[Ceric]

@ EasyCure, you gave me congrats all the way back in March, lol.

I wouldn't read to much into it.  He is getting old.

[EasyCure]

It's not a redesign, though, in the sense that it has feature parity with the original model, and the only real difference is the size. Compare that to the various DS redesigns, which all offered new features or more significant improvements (except the DSi XL, which was to the DSi what the 3DS XL was to the 3DS, namely a different size option).

@tendoboy: um.. what he said Thanks Insano'

@ EasyCure, you gave me congrats all the way back in March, lol.

I wouldn't read to much into it.  He is getting old.

I honestly don't remember that, I think I was still in semi-lurker status back then so it never stuck. The only person here I can remember has kids is Brandogg(?) because:

A. he has a baby in his avatar
B. his wife keeps spittin' em out! that poor woman..

[Ceric]

It's not a redesign, though, in the sense that it has feature parity with the original model, and the only real difference is the size. Compare that to the various DS redesigns, which all offered new features or more significant improvements (except the DSi XL, which was to the DSi what the 3DS XL was to the 3DS, namely a different size option).

@tendoboy: um.. what he said Thanks Insano'

@ EasyCure, you gave me congrats all the way back in March, lol.

I wouldn't read to much into it.  He is getting old.

I honestly don't remember that, I think I was still in semi-lurker status back then so it never stuck. The only person here I can remember has kids is Brandogg(?) because:

A. he has a baby in his avatar
B. his wife keeps spittin' em out! that poor woman..

adorable.

I feel forgotten

[EasyCure]

It's not a redesign, though, in the sense that it has feature parity with the original model, and the only real difference is the size. Compare that to the various DS redesigns, which all offered new features or more significant improvements (except the DSi XL, which was to the DSi what the 3DS XL was to the 3DS, namely a different size option).

@tendoboy: um.. what he said Thanks Insano'

@ EasyCure, you gave me congrats all the way back in March, lol.

I wouldn't read to much into it.  He is getting old.

I honestly don't remember that, I think I was still in semi-lurker status back then so it never stuck. The only person here I can remember has kids is Brandogg(?) because:

A. he has a baby in his avatar
B. his wife keeps spittin' em out! that poor woman..

adorable.

I feel forgotten

if it makes you feel any better Ceric, you're still just "someone else" - plus Brandoggs kids aren't that special. Everyone knows your first kid is special, and then every one after that is just meh. Why? Cuz Scrubs said so

Back on topic though: This new Pokemon looks cute, it's like the cartoon series but playable. I'll give it a go even if I'm not a serious pokemon 'master' like some of you are who stuck with the series so long. I can barely remember half the pokemon in the original games, don't know ANYTHING about the new types or breeding etc. I'll get it just because

[Ceric]

It's not a redesign, though, in the sense that it has feature parity with the original model, and the only real difference is the size. Compare that to the various DS redesigns, which all offered new features or more significant improvements (except the DSi XL, which was to the DSi what the 3DS XL was to the 3DS, namely a different size option).

@tendoboy: um.. what he said Thanks Insano'

@ EasyCure, you gave me congrats all the way back in March, lol.

I wouldn't read to much into it.  He is getting old.

I honestly don't remember that, I think I was still in semi-lurker status back then so it never stuck. The only person here I can remember has kids is Brandogg(?) because:

A. he has a baby in his avatar
B. his wife keeps spittin' em out! that poor woman..

adorable.

I feel forgotten

if it makes you feel any better Ceric, you're still just "someone else"

Not really because I've been a prolific and active poster for many years.

[Pixelated Pixies]

Am I the only one who thinks those overworld graphics are "meh"?

You're certainly not the only one with that initial reaction. The Pokemens (that's what they're called, right?) themselves and the battle animations look pretty good, but comparatively the trainer/overworld stuff kind of looks bad. When I say comparatively, I mean when compared to the battle animations but also when compared to what the 3DS is capable of more generally.
 
Who knows though? This is only the first trailer, I might grow to appreciate it more.

[Ceric]

Am I the only one who thinks those overworld graphics are "meh"?

You're certainly not the only one with that initial reaction. The Pokemens (that's what they're called, right?) themselves and the battle animations look pretty good, but comparatively the trainer/overworld stuff kind of looks bad. When I say comparatively, I mean when compared to the battle animations but also when compared to what the 3DS is capable of more generally.
 
Why knows though? This is only the first trailer, I might grow to appreciate it more.

I think part of this needs to be a little put into perspective.  At the end of the day the Pokemon and Battle Animations we will see much longer then the Overworld items so, it makes sense they focus on them.  We'll probably see at least 3 iterations that use these same Pokemon Models and Animations if not a console game as well.

[Pixelated Pixies]

@Ceric
 
Totally. If they had to prioritise one over the other, I'd definitely want them to put more effort into the battle animations and really give the Pokemon some character, which they appear to have done.
 
However, there will always be that part of me that wants a more cohesive world. If you'll grant me leave to be fanciful for just a moment, I've always wanted Pokemon to make a radical break from tradition. What I would have liked to see from the series would have been a more zoomed in 3rd person perspective (think Monster Hunter), a world portrayed on an epic scale (think Zelda and Xenoblade), and battles which take place directly on the map as you encounter them rather than being separated into a distinct battle arena view.
 
...
 
Although, I guess at that point it wouldn't even qualify as a Pokemon game now would it? lol.
 
Regardless, I still think that X/Y has the potential to rejuvenate the formula enough for me to want to jump back in. It's the first time I've been excited about a Pokemon release since Yellow.

[Ceric]

@Ceric
 
Totally. If they had to prioritise one over the other, I'd definitely want them to put more effort into the battle animations and really give the Pokemon some character, which they appear to have done.
 
However, there will always be that part of me that wants a more cohesive world. If you'll grant me leave to be fanciful for just a moment, I've always wanted Pokemon to make a radical break from tradition. What I would have liked to see from the series would have been a more zoomed in 3rd person perspective (think Monster Hunter), a world portrayed on an epic scale (think Zelda and Xenoblade), and battles which take place directly on the map as you encounter them rather than being separated into a distinct battle arena view.
 
...
 
Although, I guess at that point it wouldn't even qualify as a Pokemon game now would it? lol.
 
Regardless, I still think that X/Y has the potential to rejuvenate the formula enough for me to want to jump back in. It's the first time I've been excited about a Pokemon release since Yellow.

I always hoped for a more hunting feel like in Pokemon Snappish and Monster Hunter as well.  Hopefully, battles will just happen where you stand just zoomed in a bit to free up GPU for the battle. 

[Pixelated Pixies]

I always hoped for a more hunting feel like in Pokemon Snappish and Monster Hunter as well.

Can you imagine if the series took a dark turn and trainers started carving and skinning wild Pokemon for their hides Monster Hunter style? That would be...awesome. Horrifying...but awesome.

[Ceric]

I always hoped for a more hunting feel like in Pokemon Snappish and Monster Hunter as well.

Can you imagine if the series took a dark turn and trainers started carving and skinning wild Pokemon for their hides Monster Hunter style? That would be...awesome. Horrifying...but awesome.

Yeah, but it would go against the vibe of the series plus these are 10 year olds.  Not to mention your main weapon is the Pokemon.