Topic: The Dark Knight Rises with SPOILERS

[ShyGuy]

This is the end of the trilogy, and Warner is gearing up their reboot of the series

Has anything official been announced regarding the next Batman movie?

Let's be honest - the Nolan-trilogy made WB a LOT of money.  Probably more than any superhero movie/series ever has.  If they decide to continue the story, with or without Nolan and/or Bale, I wouldn't be surprised.

With that said, I forsee them taking the Avengers approach to a Justice League movie... and that just wouldn't work with the Nolan films... At least, not with Rises... So I seriously expect a reboot.

It's all about the money bags for them.

I hope the give it some time to breath before they reboot the Batman series. Marvel has rebooted or semi-rebooted too soon three or four times and it has deflated the sequel on them every time.

Hulk (2003) - The Incredible Hulk (2008) felt like a cheaper film, people were less interested.

The Punisher (2004) - Punisher:War Zone (2008) Some people like the sequel better, but it makes the franchise feel cheap.

Ghost Rider (2007) - Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (2012) Sent to die in the theaters.

Spider Man 3 (2007) Amazing Spider Man (2012) Not nearly the buzz around the film as the last trilogyl. Of course the third movie being so awful may have hurt it.

We will see if Man of Steel can break the curse.

[Oblivion]

Or you could just not worry about that and live to to its fullest?

[bustin98]

There are scenes in Rises filmed specifically for Imax, and even not in Imax they stand out as spectacular. The film is an experience meant for the theater.

Of course, you're welcome to hide from the world in your house. We don't need you anyway.

[Chozo Ghost]

Or you could just not worry about that and live to to its fullest?

I wouldn't describe sitting in front of a screen and watching a movie "living life to its fullest". If we were talking skydiving or something, then sure, but as far as watching movies goes I can have the exact same experience in my own home as I can in a theater.

[nickmitch]

No, you can't.

Anyway, I love how Bane wasn't just a big, dumb brawler in the movie. Playing up his intelligence made me happy. Although, the end kind of implied that Talia was pulling the strings the entire time.

And the Son of the Bat plot wouldn't work in this universe. I think this one is more based on the one where Bruce and Selina have a baby who becomes Robin. Although that would make a great sequel.

[UncleBob]

I think this one is more based on the one where Bruce and Selina have a baby who becomes Robin.

Close...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29

[Oblivion]

but as far as watching movies goes I can have the exact same experience in my own home as I can in a theater.

lolwut


If that was the case, everybody on the planet would watch their movies at home. The lull of a theater is the giant ass screen, amazing sound, and (sometimes) awesome audience that makes it all better. You can't get that at home, even if you tried.

[Chozo Ghost]

There are pros and cons to both theater and home movie watching. Yes, the movie theaters have larger screens, but watching movies at home has just as many if not more advantages. For example, you can pause and rewind at will, and you don't have to deal with people talking on cellphones and other annoying crap. Plus movie theaters are filthy and sometimes people masturbate in them, such as Fred Willard and Paul Reubens. There is a chance you might get some sort of disease by sitting or touching stuff other people touched.

[bustin98]

If you're in a theater that people masturbate in, then you have other things to complain about than people talking on cell phones... LOL

Sometimes people masturbate in them... man, what a line!

I got an std by going to the movies! I need one of those body condoms from Naked Gun

[Chozo Ghost]

I wasn't making that up. It was recently in the news that Fred Willard was arrested for masturbating in a theater, and Paul Reubens (AKA Pee Wee Herman) had his career effectively ended about 20 years ago for the same thing. So it apparently does happen, and the reason we hear about these is because these were celebrities. Imagine how many times this happens with normal people that we don't hear about because it doesn't make the news, and imagine how many times it happens were the perpetrators aren't even caught.

[bustin98]

Both of those instances happened in peep show theaters. Not big Cinemark theaters where Batman is shown. Peep show theaters are places you go on purpose to masturbate. Just don't get caught with your junk outside of your pants.

[nickmitch]

I think this one is more based on the one where Bruce and Selina have a baby who becomes Robin.

Close...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29

How have I never heard of this?

[UncleBob]

I think this one is more based on the one where Bruce and Selina have a baby who becomes Robin.

Close...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29

How have I never heard of this?

Because, apparently, it's bad.  Like, really bad.

The complete series is $10 at Walmart.  I keep looking at it.  I've never seen it, so it might not be as bad as they say.

[Chozo Ghost]

If the whole series is only $10 why not give it a shot? I thought you were big on collecting stuff anyway? If it really is that bad then odds are there won't be a reissue, so get it now while you can.

[Plugabugz]

I love how the entire film - like Inception - was before the opening credits.

[Oblivion]

Most of Nolan's movies are like that. The other two Batman films did the same thing.

[Chozo Ghost]

Tim Burton made great Batman movies back in the day.

[bustin98]

Tim Burton made a great Batman movie back in the day.

Fixed

[Chozo Ghost]

Tim Burton made a great Batman movie back in the day.

Fixed

Which one did you dislike and why? Personally, I thought both were very well done... but I understand the second one is a lot darker and therefore not for everyone. But that's pretty typical of anything Tim Burton does.

[noname2200]

I really liked it. I didn't think it was nearly as good as the second one though. It felt like it tried to cram too much in, and the middle had some pacing issues. And the leaps of logic the movie required were even more egregious than in the prior films, to the point where I caught them as they happened. But I went in expecting a good popcorn flick, and it delivered on that front. Definitely going to pick up the DVD later.

Come on UncleBob, there was a definite Christ allegory. Savior Batman sacrifices himself for the sins of Gotham (all of Humanity)

Sure, you say he was alive at the end, but Batman was sacrificed. His money, His manor, His secret identity were all given up for Gotham. Batman was no more. Of course Robin on the other hand...

I thought the point was that "Batman" was, and was meant to be, immortal. Bruce Wayne's moved on, but Robin Blake is there to take his place, etc. If anything, Wayne walking away is rather un-Christ like, since he's basically saying "I've done my part already. Peace out, Gotham."

I think I'll just wait until I can watch this movie in the safety of my own home.

Yeah, maybe the same here.  I already know I'm going to buy the BluRay to complete the trilogy and I dislike seeing movies in the theaters these days, so I might as well just wait a few months and see it then.

 I definitely think this type of movie is best seen in theaters (unless you have a kick-ass setup at home), but I admit that my theater occasionally played the score too loudly. The dialogue was drowned out on occasion.
 
 First World Problems, y'see.
 

No, you can't.

Anyway, I love how Bane wasn't just a big, dumb brawler in the movie. Playing up his intelligence made me happy. Although, the end kind of implied that Talia was pulling the strings the entire time.

 I think that last part was a mistake. Creating all that build up, and then transferring it to Talia instead of Bane, kind of cheapened Bane in my mind. He went from being a cunning brute to mere muscle. Which would have been fine if Talia was more interesting, but I don't think she was.
 

[bustin98]

Which one did you dislike and why? Personally, I thought both were very well done... but I understand the second one is a lot darker and therefore not for everyone. But that's pretty typical of anything Tim Burton does.

Yeah, the second one is one I didn't like too much. Mainly the portrayal of Penguin. Perhaps that was the point, the animalistic approaches to both Penguin and Catwoman was not something that appeals to me, though it contrasts against Bruce Wayne, who while calls himself Batman does not exhibit characteristics of a humanized bat... And while I love Christopher Walken, I just couldn't take his character seriously.

Maybe I need to watch the film again (as I don't think I've seen it since it was in the theater), but everytime I come across an opportunity, I talk myself out of it.

[Glad0s]

Just gonna say that the last 30 or so minutes probably ties with the last bit of The Prestige and the middle of TDK (from the interrogation till the hospital) as my favorite section of any Nolan film. Just....wow. It started out WAY too slow, and it lost its focus in the middle, but MAN is that last bit good.


Also, can we please leave the shooting out of this and take the movie for what it is? Please?

[nickmitch]

No, you can't.

Anyway, I love how Bane wasn't just a big, dumb brawler in the movie. Playing up his intelligence made me happy. Although, the end kind of implied that Talia was pulling the strings the entire time.

 I think that last part was a mistake. Creating all that build up, and then transferring it to Talia instead of Bane, kind of cheapened Bane in my mind. He went from being a cunning brute to mere muscle. Which would have been fine if Talia was more interesting, but I don't think she was.
 

Yeah, they couldn't really take the time to properly develop Talia as a character. I still like to think that Bane had to run the show for the most part while Talia was I guess "undercover" or whatever.

[Kytim89]

I walked away from this film with the sense that Nolan was trying to convey a sense that western civilization is in decline. This is backed up by the fact Bane attacks two symbols of western decline/decadence: Stock exchange (Money = greed) and the football stadium (false idols). The uprising by the lowe echelons of Gotham mirros the OWS and the idea of forcibly removing the elites from power by force. There actually people who are advocating this right now.

[ShyGuy]

This movie had a very anti-Communist slant. Selina walks into the trashed penthouse and says "This used to be somebodies home" and Holly pipes in "But now it belongs to the people!" Then Selina looks around at the ruins like "This whole collectivism thing was a bad idea."