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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2650 on: February 27, 2013, 08:47:43 AM »
Mutant Mudds is an infinitely better value at $9 on the 3DS than it is at $1 on the iPhone because the 3DS game has physical controls. The game is wildly overpriced on mobile platforms when you factor in the touch controls.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2651 on: February 27, 2013, 09:07:56 AM »
So, what you're saying is that you get a better value for a game that is able to use the buttons already on the system as opposed to the version of the game where they had to spend development time/money to design in-game controls? :D
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« Reply #2652 on: February 27, 2013, 09:37:22 AM »
Yes. Absolutely. I still bought the game, if only to donate 70 cents to Renegade Kid.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2653 on: February 27, 2013, 10:29:29 AM »
I bought the game too - and thought it was a deal at full price.  I just think it sucks that Renegade Kid either A) Sold me a game that they think is only worth $1 for $9 or B) Is so willing to compromise their product that they'll release a crap version on another platform.

It's either one or the other...
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2654 on: February 27, 2013, 10:52:22 AM »
I honestly don't feel sorry for you. The game doesn't have physical controls on that platform - which makes it worth the price it is on that platform. You paid extra for the superior version. This is like complaining that you bought a game on one Wii U, and a couple months later they release it on a different system for a cheaper price. You paid the extra money to play it before the iOS gamers, and you played it on the better platform? Who cares that they released it on iOS at a cheaper price?

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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2655 on: February 27, 2013, 11:15:18 AM »
Crashmo has been on sale for awhile now, just sayin.
I picked it up last week, not wanting to miss the sale. Good so far, the two tutorials I have managed to play, that is  :P

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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2656 on: February 27, 2013, 12:54:11 PM »
I honestly don't feel sorry for you.

Good, I don't need you to feel sorry for me.

My point is, Renegade Kid did one of two things.

A) Took a great game that they think is only worth $1 and sold it to me for $9.

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B) Took a great game, screwed it up horribly (if what y'all are saying about the touch controls is true) and sold to to (literally) make a quick buck.

Either one of those options are unappealing to me and will make me second-guess *any* further purchases from Renegade Kid - how do I know they're not going to release another crap product just to try and make a quick buck off of me?

Not worth the blind-buy.  Thus, I won't be buying any further games from them without plenty of research before hand.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2657 on: February 27, 2013, 03:40:15 PM »
And I'm saying that you're being irrational. They took a great game and put it on a platform that is inferior. Who fucking cares? It doesn't affect you. They sold it to you FIRST for $9 and later sold it for $1 with an absence of physical controls. You're acting like an entitled customer and you're the only person I've seen on the internet who actually has a big issue with this.


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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2658 on: February 27, 2013, 10:10:42 PM »
I'm also a strong advocate of customers taking their money elsewhere.

My problem isn't that they ported - it's that they are willing to sacrifice quality to make a quick buck.

If they make a Mutant Mudds 2, how do I know they won't rush some POS out to sell it because people will pick it up based on how great the first game was - only to find out it's a POS and they wasted their money?
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2659 on: February 27, 2013, 10:58:16 PM »
People wanted the game on the iPhone. They gave it to them. They charged $1 because that's the only viable price on iOS. You're reading way too much into it.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2660 on: February 27, 2013, 11:13:48 PM »
And even then, people begged for the app to be free.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2661 on: February 27, 2013, 11:27:42 PM »
People wanted the game on the iPhone. They gave it to them. They charged $1 because that's the only viable price on iOS. You're reading way too much into it.

I want Metroid Prime on my Android phone.  Should Nintendo make a crap port and sell it (for a quick buck), just because people want it?
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2662 on: February 27, 2013, 11:30:23 PM »
Yes. If people want it, and are willing to pay for it, why wouldn't they?


EDIT: And the only reason you think that it was a crap port is that it has touch controls. You know, because that's what you use for input on a smartphone.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2663 on: February 28, 2013, 08:19:09 AM »
Yes. If people want it, and are willing to pay for it, why wouldn't they?

You think people wouldn't want and pay for a 99 cent version of Metroid Prime for their smartphone?
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2664 on: February 28, 2013, 10:45:24 AM »
Nintendo has other factors to consider, such as not wanting to support a platform that is in many respects their direct competitor. It would also be considerably more of an undertaking than porting Mutant Mudds was.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2665 on: February 28, 2013, 10:46:40 AM »
...so, what you're saying is there's more to consider than just "do people want to buy it?"

Because I completely agree.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2666 on: February 28, 2013, 10:50:22 AM »
Renegade Kid doesn't have their own hardware platform competing with Apple and it was presumably relatively easy to port the game to the platform. I didn't mention the other factors because they weren't relevant to this case.

Capcom ported Mega Man 2 to the iPhone and are selling it for less than it costs on either Nintendo platform it's available on, are you pissed at them too?
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2667 on: February 28, 2013, 10:57:56 AM »
I'm not "pissed" at Renegade Kid.  I'm just saying that I can no longer trust them to put out a quality product that's worth a blind buy.

And no, not a single Capcom product is worth a blind buy.  Hell, with Capcom, I pretty much suggest waiting until the game drops to about $20 and has all the DLC included.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2668 on: February 28, 2013, 11:34:18 AM »
I would argue it's stupid to buy any game without at least some amount of research regardless, but I don't see how this instance is enough to swing you that far.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2669 on: February 28, 2013, 11:49:24 AM »
Not true.  If I walked into a store and saw a new Mario platformer that, somehow, Nintendo managed to sneak onto the shelves, I'd know to grab it and I'd know it'd be good.

Likewise, anyway WayForward is a good blind buy (still kicking myself for not getting a CE version of Adventure Time).

Per your and Oblivion's comments - the iOS version is a piece of crap game.  There was no reason for the iOS version to exist - it's not like they were even a struggling studio that had to take on some licensed POS title to make the budget meet this month.  They said "Oh, hey, we can put out crap and make money." - and that's a bad business philosophy and not one I care to reward.

Jools' later comments about blah, blah piracy and sales (when releasing the game on a platform that's been hacked to death - not to mention giving it away free recently) as a reason to threaten dropping 3DS support didn't go far to endear me to his company's philosophy either.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2670 on: February 28, 2013, 12:00:11 PM »
I personally think it's insane to consider WayForward games automatic buys but not Renegade Kid's. Renegade Kid's track record is far better.
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« Reply #2671 on: February 28, 2013, 12:03:47 PM »
To be fair, I should have specified their original titles - not so much the licensed titles (thus why Adventure Time wasn't an automatic buy for me... and now I'm kicking myself).
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« Reply #2672 on: March 03, 2013, 08:54:59 AM »
I would argue it's stupid to buy any game without at least some amount of research regardless, but I don't see how this instance is enough to swing you that far.

You know, I was thinking about this just now.

I'm going to show a little bit of my age here, but back in the day, we didn't have your fancy internets and digital downloads.  When we wanted to own music, dang nabbit, we had to walk 20 miles uphill barefooted in the snow to the local five and dime for our CDs.

Now, I bought a lot of CDs back in the day.  You youngin's with your em-pee-three players and your iDooDads don't know what it's like to carry a CD player ever so gently because anti-skip protection hadn't been invented yet and a stack of 5-10 CDs because each disc had about an hour of music and you needed multiple discs for multiple hours of music.

Anyway, getting off topic here, back in the day, I bought a lot of CDs.  Many, Many of these were blind-buy titles based on nothing more than the artist.  Sometimes, I might have heard one of the tracks on the radio.  On a rare occasion, I'd have some spare cash and just want a new CD, so I'd browse the shelf and look for something interesting (I discovered Charlotte Church and her first album this way. I've been in love with her music ever since, even when she went "pop".  This is important, remember this.) to buy.

Of course, now-a-days, you gots your internets and your youtubes and your napsters - you don't need to blind-buy CDs.  Heck, you don't even need to buy music. But that's another story.

But that's the way I'm used to doing things.  I'll blind-buy a product based off nothing more than a name or something interesting that grabs my attention about the product.  Sometimes, I get burned, sometimes I don't.  Typically, I have pretty good intuition though about what I'll like.

However, knowing that a company purposely put out a sub-par product, and not because they needed to, but because they could... well, that says something to me and sticks in my head.  So, like years ago, if I saw a THQ logo on a game, I'd remember the crappy THQ licensed games my mom would buy me for my Game Boy and I'd skip over them.  I'm not saying that if I see the Renegade Kid Logo that I'd skip over that game entirely - but, before, based off nothing more than playing Mutant Mudds, I'd buy another RK game if I was browsing the eShop for something to play (which happens a lot).  Now, however, I'll probably just make a mental note to look the game up and skip it over for something else.

And maybe I'll remember that mental note, look it up and maybe I'll go back to the eShop and get it some time.  Maybe.

Back to the beginning, why did I just *now* remember this?  Because Charlotte Church's new EP is up for pre-order, and I just put money down on a physical copy (i.e.: CD for you youngins) without ever having listened to a track off of it.  Because I know it'll be something I enjoy.
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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2673 on: March 03, 2013, 12:15:54 PM »
I think it's hilarious that you're talking about owning CD's and **** when everyone here, (including myself) also had to deal with the same thing.


And you continue to claim that the iOS version is sub-par to the 3DS version, when that's just a matter of opinion and not a fact.


But you'll go on to ignore that and make a joke about my expense or state that fact that you're ignoring what I said.

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Re: Amazing Deals for 3DS, DS & GBA
« Reply #2674 on: March 03, 2013, 01:11:34 PM »
I'm going on yours and Insanolord's claim that the iOS version is crap because it has crap controls.  Are you now saying that is not true?

And the CD thing - while mostly joking, you should take note Oblivion - we're old.  There's an entire generation of adults where buying CDs is just not something they did.  It'd be like you or I buying VHS movies.  Our parents did it.  We might have even bought one or two.  But, as for the primary source of "owning" music?  Nada.
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