Topic: PlayStation4 - News/Rumor/Speculation - Over 1 Million Sold on Day 1

[tendoboy1984]

Sony Patents: Game Pausing In-Game Commercials
 http://www.google.com/patents?id=lDb9AQAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=sony+entertainment&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mLS-T8TGIqqI6AHM__GqCg&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=sony%20entertainment&f=false

You have got to be kidding.

You better not pause my Action to sell me a Slim Jim, a Coke or a freaking Pizza.
That is a horrible idea.

Oh hell no. Sony will be dead to me if this happens. They can't patent that idea anyways because it's already being done with iOS and Android games. I'm so glad it hasn't spread to consoles or PC/Steam.

[broodwars]

Honestly, with how rampant Microsoft is getting with ads on the Xbox 360's interface, they're probably not that far behind on implementing such a "feature" themselves.  And people actually pay them for that experience, which just baffles me.   

[nickmitch]

Sony Patents: Game Pausing In-Game Commercials
 http://www.google.com/patents?id=lDb9AQAAEBAJ&pg=PA1&dq=sony+entertainment&hl=en&sa=X&ei=mLS-T8TGIqqI6AHM__GqCg&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=sony%20entertainment&f=false

You have got to be kidding.

You better not pause my Action to sell me a Slim Jim, a Coke or a freaking Pizza.
That is a horrible idea.

Oh hell no. Sony will be dead to me if this happens. They can't patent that idea anyways because it's already being done with iOS and Android games. I'm so glad it hasn't spread to consoles or PC/Steam.

Patents like this are more about implementation than a baseline idea like "ads during a game."

[NWR_insanolord]

Also, them patenting it doesn't mean they're actually going to do it. Sony (and Nintendo, and every other tech company) patents essentially every idea they come up with, regardless of their intent to use them. It's both a symptom and a cause of the patent system being as fucked up as it is.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Rumor: Sony Announcing Cloud Gaming Deal at E3 2012
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/OnLive-Gaikai-E30-2012-PlayStation-Vita,news-15353.html

[tendoboy1984]

Rumor: Sony Announcing Cloud Gaming Deal at E3 2012
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/OnLive-Gaikai-E30-2012-PlayStation-Vita,news-15353.html

If that's Sony's big reveal, then it's ruined now by this rumor.

And isn't Gakai pretty much vaporware at this point? All they currently offer is demos, while OnLive has full games available and a subscription service.

[Shaymin]

I really hope this is a patent designed to stop someone like say, Microsoft from implementing the same thing.

[TJ Spyke]

I really hope this is a patent designed to stop someone like say, Microsoft from implementing the same thing.

All it would do is stop Microsoft from doing it that exact same way, not from doing the basic idea.

I think the whole idea of cloud gaming is stupid. The big reason being that you lose access to games you "bought" if/when the service ends, and that you can't play them if your Internet goes down. If they make it an option (like if you buy a physical copy you get a free digital copy, the same way movies do it with stuff like UltraViolet), they might be acceptable.

[tendoboy1984]

I really hope this is a patent designed to stop someone like say, Microsoft from implementing the same thing.

All it would do is stop Microsoft from doing it that exact same way, not from doing the basic idea.

I think the whole idea of cloud gaming is stupid. The big reason being that you lose access to games you "bought" if/when the service ends, and that you can't play them if your Internet goes down. If they make it an option (like if you buy a physical copy you get a free digital copy, the same way movies do it with stuff like UltraViolet), they might be acceptable.

Well look at Netflix. You don't own any of the movies you are streaming with that service.


Steam is just as bad as one of those streaming services. Yes you actually "bought" the games and have them installed on your own computer, but you need to be logged into Steam at all times just to play them. If your internet goes down, you can't play anything.


The thing I like about the 3DS is you don't have to be online to play the games you downloaded. You can take the 3DS anywhere and play any game you have installed.

[nickmitch]

The Netflix comparison isn't apples to apples. With Netflix, you pay for access to watch a library of movies, not for each movie individually. What Spike was talking about was paying per game and then having limited access to it.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Steam is just as bad as one of those streaming services. Yes you actually "bought" the games and have them installed on your own computer, but you need to be logged into Steam at all times just to play them. If your internet goes down, you can't play anything.

Can't you use steam in the offline mode?

[Caliban]

Steam is just as bad as one of those streaming services. Yes you actually "bought" the games and have them installed on your own computer, but you need to be logged into Steam at all times just to play them. If your internet goes down, you can't play anything.

Can't you use steam in the offline mode?

You can't.

[NWR_insanolord]

You can if you know it's going to happen ahead of time.

[Louieturkey]

I think the whole idea of cloud gaming is stupid. The big reason being that you lose access to games you "bought" if/when the service ends, and that you can't play them if your Internet goes down. If they make it an option (like if you buy a physical copy you get a free digital copy, the same way movies do it with stuff like UltraViolet), they might be acceptable.

I like this idea.  Maybe OnLive and Steam get together where you buy once for both services and can stream the game to wherever OnLive streams (their set top box, PS3 if it happens, PC, tablets, etc.) and then get a Steam license to use on your Steam account.  Buy the game once, play it anywhere and even without an internet connection if you know how to do that.  I could buy into that idea.

In regards to OnLive on PS3, I like the idea.  It would open up a huge library of PC games onto the PS3 and have them at a better graphics setting than the PS3 is capable of internally.  It would depend on the price though.

[Ian Sane]

I look at Netflix more as a movie rental service.  It replaces the old video stores.  But if I want to OWN a movie I go buy the DVD and I can watch that DVD forever as long as I have a working DVD player.  With cloud gaming it would likley be that that would be the way to own the game, so I never actually own it at all and one day the game I bought disappears for good.

I won't buy a cloud game.  I won't buy a system in which that is the way to play games.  I won't buy a game with pausing advertisements and I won't buy a system where that feature is built in.  I would just entertain myself with retro systems if no other option was available.  I do not willingly pay for advertisements.

[Chozo Ghost]

I do not willingly pay for advertisements.

In my opinion a game having advertisements is fine as long as the game is free. If instead of charging consumers $60 for a game, what if they gave the game away for free and then just made the money off the advertisements like how it works with TV? If it was like that I would be okay with it, but I agree with you that if you are paying for the game then you shouldn't have it interrupted with that ****. Game companies should make money one way or the other, but they shouldn't double dip and impose both ways on consumers.

[Ceric]

Honestly, it depends on the ads.

Take a Baseball game.  Real Advertising on the spots where you normally have advertising in a Baseball game would be fine by me.  Same for a Racing game, Billboards in a city, ads in a newspaper, Brand Products, etc.  Can actually help realism and environment if you don't need to explicitly set all that up.

[Ian Sane]

Honestly, it depends on the ads.

Take a Baseball game.  Real Advertising on the spots where you normally have advertising in a Baseball game would be fine by me.  Same for a Racing game, Billboards in a city, ads in a newspaper, Brand Products, etc.  Can actually help realism and environment if you don't need to explicitly set all that up.

I don't really care about product placement that makes sense.  I expect ads all over a baseball stadium.  I don't want to deal with a pause in the baseball game to deal with a commercial though.  Yes, on TV baseball games have that but they don't from a player's perspective.  A baseball player just runs on or off the field and away we go.  I would hate to have to sit through a commercial between innings.

[Louieturkey]

So the original rumor was that Sony was signing a deal to have a "popular" game streaming service be provided on the PS3.  Well now VG247 is stating that Sony may end up buying Gaikai outright.  Some are speculating that they will use this to stream PS1/2 games to people without having them have to be physically on the system so they can offer a bunch more games that way.

[tendoboy1984]

So the original rumor was that Sony was signing a deal to have a "popular" game streaming service be provided on the PS3.  Well now VG247 is stating that Sony may end up buying Gaikai outright.  Some are speculating that they will use this to stream PS1/2 games to people without having them have to be physically on the system so they can offer a bunch more games that way.

Why just limit it to PS1/2 games? Why not also include Vita and PS3 games (PSN and retail)?


EDIT: That article says nothing about Sony buying out Gaikai. It's just a deal between the 2 companies.

[MrPhishfood]

There wasn't a thread for it because Sony has been very tight lipped. The code name for the project might be Orbis.

This latest piece of info just came in via Kotaku

http://kotaku.com/5951320/todays-best-discovery-sony-wants-to-patent-a-ps3-move-controller-that-gets-hot-or-cold?post=53465549



If this is something that ships with the PS4 I think it would be pretty cool. It would certainly help people who are visually impaired play games too. My only concern is the battery life on the thing, surely heating and cooling a controller would consume a lot of energy.


Personally I felt the PS3's Move had a lot of potential but lacked the software to show it off. It would be interesting if it comes as standard in the PS4 and all games would support it in some way.

[TJ Spyke]

That controller seems a gimmick at most, and not in a good way. I wouldn't want to use it.

[NWR_insanolord]

It's Sony taking the lead on a new type of controller, which we've never really seen before. It might be a flop (and most likely will be), but at least they're trying something new instead of copying their competitors' ideas.

[MegaByte]

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420008/adding-temperature-to-human-computer-interaction/

[MrPhishfood]

http://www.technologyreview.com/view/420008/adding-temperature-to-human-computer-interaction/

Interesting. I wouldn't be too quick to write it off as a lame gimmick just yet, it could be our imaginations haven't opened up to the possibilities it could yield. I remember the rumble pack for the old N64 and I thought "pssh, hows that going to help" but then when I put Starfox in there and I felt the ship taking off it really added to the experience.