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Re: Mighty Mafia Power Rangers Player's Thread
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2010, 12:18:22 PM »
If you going to continue, you may as well restart the game. No one was that into the game investigating possible roles yet to be upset.

(plus some people have already outed themselves)
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Re: Mighty Mafia Power Rangers Player's Thread
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2010, 01:55:22 PM »
Yeah I think we should restart the game and maybe have a few days for new players to join.
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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2010, 02:17:53 PM »
I don't think we would get any new players. We already pretty much have the full roster of presently active mafia players and I don't think it would be wise to try and recruit more new players in this match. Veterans are confused by the rules enough as it is.

I say patch the hole and keep playing.

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Re: Mighty Mafia Power Rangers Player's Thread
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2010, 05:40:18 PM »
The townies discovered the issue so they should win!

Nah really, just patch it and continue.

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« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2010, 09:34:18 PM »
I think we have a fix - running it by Zedd and Rita one last time, then I'll send the details to Zordon and see what s/he thinks before making the plans public and letting everyone know.  Thanks for hanging in there, guys and gals.
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« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2010, 10:43:29 PM »
oh is this the game breaking thing?

if rita and zedd know who the power rangers are, couldn't they just announce who they are giving the game to bulk and skull and causing rita and zed to defeat the power rangers? Or would that be considered a losing condition for the villains?
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« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2010, 10:50:25 PM »
Bulk and Skull winning ends the game with a loss for both Zedd/Rita and Zordon/Rangers.  Bulk and Skull would get the prizes then.
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« Reply #32 on: May 18, 2010, 06:20:20 AM »
So, here's the problem.

Zedd/Rita pick a townie to be a monster.  The spell succeeds.  The Townie, however, fails to submit a weakness and contacts other townies (and, ideally, another Ranger) to let them know they've been put under a spell.  Since the monster didn't submit a weakness, they can't make a hit overnight.  If they've managed to contact a Ranger, then they can be "saved".  Repeat this over and over and you've got no Monsters and no hits from Zedd/Rita - and the townies can slowly vote out people until they manage to get Zedd and Rita.

After talking things over with Zedd, Rita and Zordon, here's the fix we've came up with that doesn't over-power one side while giving both sides the chance to win.

The fix - If a Ranger saves a monster, that townie then has a 90% chance of "leaving town" - thus being kicked out of the game.  Granted, the Townie-monsters could still contact other townies, get saved and slowly make it an automatic win for the townies, but those monsters will, very, very likely, not survive the game (i.e.: they'll lose).
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Re: Mighty Mafia Power Rangers Player's Thread
« Reply #33 on: May 18, 2010, 08:11:15 AM »
Weird. I thought if you were a monster, you automatically become "mafia" and couldn't give away info. If somehow the Rangers saved the monster, he'd have info on what Zedd and Rita made them do, but not on who they were. I thought Zedd/Rita gave commands through the host and not themselves.
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« Reply #34 on: May 18, 2010, 10:54:15 AM »
So when the game starting again?
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« Reply #35 on: May 18, 2010, 11:10:14 AM »
That's the problem? Why not just have Zedd/Rita choose the weakness of each monster keeping them in the dark as to what their weakness is? Then they can't tell the Rangers who'll have to earn the rescue. And to prevent the monsters from betraying Zedd/Rita, just send communications through the host who can pass messages back and forth between both parties.

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Re: Mighty Mafia Power Rangers Player's Thread
« Reply #36 on: May 18, 2010, 11:28:50 AM »
You and I actually had the same idea, Khush.  When I saw the game's problem at the beginning, I thought that would be a good work-around, but I figured it wouldn't be nice to exploit the matter with the monsters, so I never said anything, figuring most people that would notice wouldn't cause a problem.

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« Reply #37 on: May 18, 2010, 03:23:07 PM »
Weird. I thought if you were a monster, you automatically become "mafia" and couldn't give away info

In an ideal world, this was the plan - but it was never an official rule - and if it were, there'd realistically be no way to enforce it.

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I thought Zedd/Rita gave commands through the host and not themselves.

The idea is that Zedd/Rita can supply partial information to their monsters, but the information they supply is completely up to them.  I considered using the host to relay information and commands, but that system has the flaw of Zedd/Rita having to send me the message, the delay of me getting the message and forwarding it to the monster, then the monster getting the message.  I figured it was better (and more interesting) to have Zedd and Rita choose how and what information they choose to share.

That's the problem? Why not just have Zedd/Rita choose the weakness of each monster keeping them in the dark as to what their weakness is? Then they can't tell the Rangers who'll have to earn the rescue.

If Rita/Zedd pick the monster's weakness, there's nothing forcing the Rangers to attack him/her - instead, the Rangers can just choose to save the monster overnight (if the monster has communicated with the Rangers who they are).
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« Reply #38 on: May 19, 2010, 08:29:31 PM »
I'm going to leave this open for discussion tomorrow, then tomorrow evening, I'll send out notices to players, update the rules and we'll restart where we left off on Friday morning.
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