Topic: Mistwalker's "The Last Story" out in NA via XSEED!

[broodwars]

I'm sure they're not going to release it unless it's done right. Nintendo is publishing this game themselves afterall.

Fatal Frame IV, how tragic your fate is.

Let's not forget Disaster: Day of Crisis as well.  Star Fox Assault (and maybe Adventures as well...did Nintendo publish that thing?) and Geist from last generation also come to mind.  Nintendo publishing a game does not guarantee that it will be awesome.

[Adrock]

Yes, we can all name less than stellar games that Nintendo has published. I usually go back to the well and use Wario: Master of Disguise. I didn't say Nintendo publishing The Last Story guarantees success (guarantees being the operative word here), nor am I implying such. However, based on Nintendo's track record of releasing quality titles, I'm more than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Peachylala]

I'm sure they're not going to release it unless it's done right. Nintendo is publishing this game themselves afterall.

Fatal Frame IV, how tragic your fate is.

Let's not forget Disaster: Day of Crisis as well.  Star Fox Assault (and maybe Adventures as well...did Nintendo publish that thing?) and Geist from last generation also come to mind.  Nintendo publishing a game does not guarantee that it will be awesome.

From what I heard, Disaster plays well. The rest, however, are fair game. FFIV was due to Temco's dickery in not polishing it. The rest stemmed from horrible gameplay ideas.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Gameplay Details Update
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/04/16/last_story_gameplay_systems/

Here is a good breakdown of whats going on in The (Last) Story board <pun>

The battle begins.


The enemies have noticed the main character.


The "pointers" are centered on the main character.


The main character attacks the enemies with his sword.


A party member begins charging a spell for casting.


The enemy "pointers" shift to that party member to show their change in target.


The main character uses "gathering" to make the enemies target him instead.


The party member's spell is cast successfully, enchanting the main character's sword.


The main character finishes the enemies off with his enchanted sword attacks.

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[Stratos]

Think it could be co-op?

Though if it played like World Ends With You with the dual player control I'd be quite happy as well.

[Adrock]

A 2-player co-op RPG that works? Do want. A kind of feel like the only way one would work is if it was action based, not turn based which would make it even more win. /needs to stop getting his hopes up.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Is this game even real?

As for a 2-player co-op RPG that wurks, Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World.  Since it's actiony, it feels less like an RPG, making it better than RPGs.

[Tobli]

Since   it's actiony, it feels less like an RPG, making it better than RPGs.

Please tell me that this isn't serious, please....

[broodwars]

Since   it's actiony, it feels less like an RPG, making it better than RPGs.

Please tell me that this isn't serious, please....

It's a post by Pro, a guy who's taken up trolling as a Full-Time job.  Flip a coin, and if it lands on a side, he's not being serious.

[Mop it up]

Co-op is what got me through Tales of Symphonia. If it does have co-op, it'd be enough to get me interested in this game.

[KDR_11k]

Honestly isn't that hyped "gathering" feature just the taunt ability used in many (MMO)RPGs?

[broodwars]

Honestly isn't that hyped "gathering" feature just the taunt ability used in many (MMO)RPGs?

Yeah, it sounds an awful lot like "aggro" to me as well.  Hell, I was just finishing up FF XIII last night, and the Sentinel's Provoke Ability pretty much does what this storyboard describes.  It's nothing special: just a tank drawing enemies to them, and then going on offense when buffed.

I don't know about this one.  The more we hear about it, the less appealing it becomes.  Hopefully, when this game gets its official unveiling with all the screenshots and videos I've practically been pleading for, it'll turn out all this skepticism was misplaced.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Battle Concept
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/slsj/column/


Large Version: http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/slsj/column/img/column_08_bg.jpg

Some short points about what they shared today:

- The game's battle system is a mix of realtime action and command input

- They wanted to create a brand sort of battle system for RPGs, so there was a lot of trial and error involved

- Aside from "Gathering" another important system in the game is the "Magic Circle" system which sounds like an area effect buff - there are different types healing, flame, etc

- The battles are in real time, but the action can be paused for the player to input different commands and change the tactics and AI settings of party members

Article
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/04/20/last_story_battle_system/

[KDR_11k]

I think most jRPG designers could learn a lot if they played through Dawn of War 2. It seems themost they've played is some MMORPGs which don't really hold a candle to dedicated singleplayer games if you subtract the social aspect.

[Stratos]

I think most jRPG designers could learn a lot if they played through Dawn of War 2. It seems themost they've played is some MMORPGs which don't really hold a candle to dedicated singleplayer games if you subtract the social aspect.

Development houses should have 'in service days' like schools do where no normal classes are held except instead of going to teaching and topical workshops the devs play other games in the genre of the game(s) they are currently working on.

[BlackNMild2k1]

First screenshots of the game appear in Famitsu Magazine

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/38005/

[broodwars]

First screenshots of the game appear in Famitsu Magazine

http://www.nintendoeverything.com/38005/

About time.  Unfortunately, I can't make much out of screenshots so small and dark.

[Adrock]

The pic on the left is clearly the female lead and logo girl. Can't tell if it's CG. The pic on the right looks like a battle sequence. The lasers remind me of those target lines from Final Fantasy XII, except not arched. It could just be a magic spell, but the FFXII targeting system was the first thing that came to mind.

[Stratos]

From what I can make out it looks nice. I agree it's taken way too long to show anything of actual substance from the game.

[Armak88]

I hope there is more colour than what those shots show. The concept art had really sharp colouring that I thought looked really cool.

[BlackNMild2k1]

This game is looking really good. I got the link to the HQ scans (all the pics from the Famitsu article)

Here is the write up on siliconera:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/04/27/first-glimpse-at-the-last-story/

and here is a direct link to the HQ scans:
http://www.allgamesbeta.info/2010/04/famitsu-scans-last-story-xenoblade.html


These are the graphics we all knew the Wii was capable of, it's a shame that games like this are just now popping up 4 years later.

[broodwars]

This game is looking really good. I got the link to the HQ scans (all the pics from the Famitsu article)

Here is the write up on siliconera:
http://www.siliconera.com/2010/04/27/first-glimpse-at-the-last-story/

and here is a direct link to the HQ scans:
http://www.allgamesbeta.info/2010/04/famitsu-scans-last-story-xenoblade.html


These are the graphics we all knew the Wii was capable of, it's a shame that games like this are just now popping up 4 years later.

Alright, that's better.  Yes, the game does look nice, probably a little bit better than Xenoblade right now.  Now let's see some videos showing how it plays, and I'll be satisfied.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I knew it.  Famitsu print mag and their Zephos-forsaken press exclusives.

[Adrock]

/impressed

[Nemo]

I was starting to get excited until I realized it'll probably be out in Japan before the end of the year, then won't be here for another 9 months. So, this is probably more than a year away. (Just a guess.)