Topic: Fils-Aime: HD is Not Enough

[NWR_DrewMG]

The NOA boss talks about the next Nintendo console.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=20351

 In a recent interview with Kotaku, Nintendo of America President Reggie Fils-Aime reiterated that an HD-enabled gaming console from Nintendo was not planned for release in the near future.  When pressed, he offered the following explanation:    

"The fundamental issue in the logic flow is that — and this is what I'm hearing, whether it's from you or Geoff [Keighley, Game Trailers TV Host] or Michael [Pachter, Business Analyst] himself — is that, gosh it's such an opportunity to take HD capability and link it with the Wii. And what we have said, repeatedly, is that that's not the way we at Nintendo do things. The way we at Nintendo do things is, you know, when we will move to a new generation, it's because there are some fundamental things the [current] console cannot do. What that says is that simply the addition of HD capability will not be the next step for us. There will be more to it. There will be additional capability. There will be additional elements, and, given that, it is far into the future."    

Fils-Aime spoke with Games Trailer TV host Keighley earlier this month, stating "Michael [Pachter] continues to be the only one who believes that this is gonna happen. I don't know how forcefully we can say there is no Wii HD."  The repeated statements by Fils-Aime suggest that Nintendo truly has no plans to release an upgraded Wii in the near future.      

The Nintendo Wii launched in November 2006, marking this the third year of the console's life-cycle.  If Nintendo were to launch a new console in the next year, it would mark the shortest life span of a Nintendo mainline console to date.

[Ian Sane]

The way we at Nintendo do things is, you know, when we will move to a new generation, it's because there are some fundamental things the [current] console cannot do.

If that was truly how Nintendo did things their next console would have been announced about 30 seconds after the Wii was released.

He's not saying "no HD" which is really what I fear Nintendo will do so that's good.  If they want to take it beyond that, fine.

It probably bugs the **** out of Nintendo though to have these analysts constantly pulling this BS out of their ass.  How does one become a videogame market analyst when pretty much everyone on this forum knows more about videogames than you?  Nintendo will probably release their next console in the second half of 2011 at the absolute earliest.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Of course there will be a Nintendo console that supports HD graphics.  This is because by the time Nintendo launches their next console (late 2011 sounds plausible), it will be far, far more prevalent than it was in 2006, and considerably even more so than today.

Releasing a new console between now and two years from now would be ridiculous, and Nintendo knows that.

[BlackNMild2k1]

This is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.

Nintendo will go HD for the next system because it will be the natural progression, but Nintendo will not release the next system just because of HD.

[NWR_DrewMG]

This is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.

I guess it'll be non-news when people stop asking about it.  The interview was just published over at Kotaku yesterday.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Well it is quite obvious Reggie is saying that they need to do more to innovate their next console then JUST a HD bump. With Natal and the Ice Cream Cone coming on the market I am interested to see what Nintendo does to stay ahead with their next console when it comes to control.

[BlackNMild2k1]

This is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.

I guess it'll be non-news when people stop asking about it.  The interview was just published over at Kotaku yesterday.

Oh I'm not dissing the reporting about it, I was just stating that Reggie wasn't saying anything new.
It just came across wrong. I saw when it popped up yesterday, so I no its a new interview.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Well it is quite obvious Reggie is saying that they need to do more to innovate their next console then JUST a HD bump. With Natal and the Ice Cream Cone coming on the market I am interested to see what Nintendo does to stay ahead with their next console when it comes to control.

Well I can already tell you that M+ will be integrated and it's likely that Nintendo will do something with that motion camera that Ubisoft is releasing on the 24th (Your Shape). Nintendo did have a hand in getting that camera made after all. I suspect they are letting Ubisoft test out the tech for them.

[GoldenPhoenix]

It should be interesting, I doubt they'll create anything like the Sony wand with a big bulb on the end, that doesn't' seem to be Nintendo's style. Doesn't mean they won't have a similar concept just not as in your face (and ugly).

[NWR_DrewMG]

This is non-news as i believe Iwata already said it.

I guess it'll be non-news when people stop asking about it.  The interview was just published over at Kotaku yesterday.

Oh I'm not dissing the reporting about it, I was just stating that Reggie wasn't saying anything new.
It just came across wrong. I saw when it popped up yesterday, so I no its a new interview.

I didn't mean to imply you were dissing the report.  I'm agreeing with you, this is not news.  It wasn't news on Nov 6th when Reggie said it the first time, nor is it news now.  It would make our job easier if people stopped asking.

[Ian Sane]

With Natal and the Ice Cream Cone coming on the market I am interested to see what Nintendo does to stay ahead with their next console when it comes to control.

With all three consoles on equal footing regarding hardware, I'm sure all three companies will battle fiercely to top the other in gimmicky novelties... but in the end the console with the best games will win.  I'm quite certain that the only reason the Wii library is so different from the others is because of the huge hardware difference.  With everything comparable the third party support will probably be similar to the PS360 where both consoles have very similar lineups with first party efforts and a handful of major third party exclusives providing subtle differences.  In that situation Nintendo will probably do quite well since their first party lineup is clearly the strongest.  This assumes that third parties neglect the Wii entirely because of inferior hardware and not because of some dislike of Nintendo.

I think the remote had a certain "wow" factor to it that can't truly be recreated unless you start controlling with your mind or something.  They can all release different stuff but it won't have the same impact.  That doesn't mean that they can't come up with something worthwhile or superior but motion control could only debut once.

[BlackNMild2k1]

I'm quite certain that the only reason the Wii library is so different from the others is because of the huge hardware difference.  With everything comparable the third party support will probably be similar to the PS360 where both consoles have very similar lineups with first party efforts and a handful of major third party exclusives providing subtle differences.  In that situation Nintendo will probably do quite well since their first party lineup is clearly the strongest.  This assumes that third parties neglect the Wii entirely because of inferior hardware and not because of some dislike of Nintendo.

It's like the GC vs PSXbox never happened.

[King of Twitch]

I predict a port of a Game cube game will be a major launch title.

[AV]

The next wii needs to morph the sensor bar into also a camera.

3d head tracking tech needs to be part of that.

Add some of the stuff Project Natal is doing and you have next generation Wii with better graphics, better more advanced 3d, motion controls that are refined to the next level of wii motion plus. Put more memory into the wiimote2.0 and have the game learn how YOU play the game and HOW YOU do the motions and use that to build upon the AI and make the game work better FOR YOU.

This is how the next gen Wii will be.

[Ian Sane]

It's like the GC vs PSXbox never happened.

Yeah but the Gamecube was the last place console and it was a follow-up to an underperforming console.  Nintendo will likely enter the next generation as the market leader.  I figure that will make a difference.  I don't subscribe to the "everyone just hates Nintendo" theory, partially because it's idiotic from a business sense and I doubt that EVERY single videogame company in the world would do something that idiotic just for spite.  And partially because we haven't seen Nintendo compete for third party support on a level playing field for a long time.  Since the N64 there has always been something that screws things up.

[D_Average]

"is that that's not the way we at Nintendo do things. The way we at Nintendo do things is, you know,......"

Why does Reggie seem to a consistent way of coming off as condescending?  Sounds like a mother scolding her baby.

But anyways, this is just another slow news day, Wii HD is obviously coming.  Given that its become quite the chore to buy a new non HD TV, releasing a SD console three years from now would be pretty counter intuitive.  All Reggie is saying is that, HD won't be the only addition, obviously.

[Mop it up]

I was worried there was going to be some Wii hardware revision like what Nintendo does with handhelds so I'm glad to hear this every time that I do.

I'm not sure if Nintendo will release a new system in quarter 4 of 2011, I think they may wait. It will depend on two things:
1. When their competitors choose to release new systems, and
2. How well the Wii is still sellling.
By that time the Wii userbase will be HUGE. Why give that up before you have to?

[EasyCure]

you and ian worry a LOT

[GoldenPhoenix]

you and ian worry a LOT

The perfect couple?

[EasyCure]

you and ian worry a LOT

personally i don't think it'll work out, but if you wanna continue being matchmaker go ahead!
The perfect couple?

[Mop it up]

you and ian worry a LOT

The perfect couple?

No way. He wouldn't play any of my Mario spin-off games with me...

[BlackNMild2k1]

you and ian worry a LOT

The perfect couple?

GP said it therefore Mop it up must believe it to be true.

[Mop it up]

She asked it, she didn't make it a statement.

[EasyCure]

but we all know gp's a question-talker.

[stevey]

I sincerely hope Nintendo next console is NOT in HD.