Topic: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare coming to Wii 11/10/09

[Stratos]

Wii 'ruined' my sense of immersion. It feels awful to use a control stick or even a mouse to play FPS games. I have to bumble around for hours to get back into using either a mouse+keyboard or a traditional controller. It just feels wrong.

I haven't decided if this is a good or a bad thing yet, but it has certainly caused me to prefer Wii versions of titles even if they are gimped in some ways.

Only Left 4 Dead seems to draw me in quickly on PC. Games like Half-Life 2, Team Fortress 2 and even Portal are difficult to play.

[KDR_11k]

Honestly I never get immersed, I get counter-immersed (the window dressing fades from my mind as only the pure mechanics remain) and from what I understand pretty much everyone does (it's the way the male mind works). The theatre of the mind does not include that which requires no imagination.

[King of Twitch]

YEAH BUT DID YOU KNOW THEY REMOVED STAINED GLASS WINDOWS FROM ETERNAL DARNKESS BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T INVENTED YET DURING THAT TIME PERIOD?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Honestly I never get immersed, I get counter-immersed (the window dressing fades from my mind as only the pure mechanics remain) and from what I understand pretty much everyone does (it's the way the male mind works). The theatre of the mind does not include that which requires no imagination.

Everyone does not equal the male gender.

[KDR_11k]

How many women talk about needing HD to get any immersion?

[BranDonk Kong]

Huge Dildos?

[GoldenPhoenix]

How many women talk about needing HD to get any immersion?

That's right, we aren't as shallow to need High Definition for immersion. Point taken!

[Stratos]

Well, men are more visually stimulated than women in general. So there may actually be a point in saying guys prefer HD visuals.

[Mop it up]

I think it is more such visuals have different effects on men and women. Any game which uses dull colours and darker shades is going to make me feel depressed.

[KDR_11k]

Well, men are more visually stimulated than women in general. So there may actually be a point in saying guys prefer HD visuals.

Which of course means those who want HD visuals the most are unable to really perceive them when in the thick of the action.

[NWR_insanolord]

That explains why HD games have so many cutscenes; when you're actually playing the game you can't appreciate what it looks like.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Well, men are more visually stimulated than women in general. So there may actually be a point in saying guys prefer HD visuals.

But I don't think the argument is whether we prefer HD visuals (who wouldn't?), but more is HD visuals necessary to get the same amount of enjoyment out of the same game. I believe immersion is relative to the quality of the game as a whole, not just it's graphics.

[Stogi]

I would just like to say that I still play my NES to this day and I still can't help but move the controller when I'm anxious.

That is all.

[BlackNMild2k1]

^ hahah my girl does that.... LOL!!


my mom does that too, but it's not because she is anxious, it's because she is playing sports or fitness games on the Wii (she loves WiiFit+ right now)

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Immersion is the voluntary act of the player, investing their consciousness in whatever makes up the game.  The game has the job of attempting to be inviting to the player.  At the same time, there's all kinds of crap in the game that can negatively distract the player (dual analog?), or just be meaningless to the player (visual fluff), like KDR says.

People get immersed in 8-bit 2D Mario, big screen or small, of all things.

I would just like to say that I still play my NES to this day and I still can't help but move the controller when I'm anxious.

That is all.

Excellent example.  A friend of mine used to lean left/right when playing Super Mario Kart.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

"The controls are really odd, you have plenty of options, but it never feels right. Heroes 2 was a lot better on that matter."

[Stratos]

I tried the game and it controls fine for me with minimal tuning. I changed the buttons and gestures to mimic Conduit and tweaked the bounding box a bit and it works well.

Anyone else interested in playing some Multiplayer?

We need an FC thread posted for the game.

[SixthAngel]

I started playing this game and I can't believe it is so popular.  It is so utterly average.  Nothing too bad is in the game but nothing really good is there either.  I think the Conduit single player was much better.

I picked the difficulty above normal and it warned me it was "not the recommended difficulty." The first two levels are then completed almost entirely by my computer partners.  Someone is shooting me from above so I back off a pull out my sniper rifle.  I pop out, oh, he's already dead along with a ton of other guys.  I learned in the third level I can even skip gun battles by simply running to the next check point.  I don't know if there is infinite spawing or what but I don't feel rewarded for clearing a room.

The only reason I seem to die is because someone throws a grenade at me.  The enemy must have spent their entire third world country's budget on these things because every enemy has like 12 of them so the little grenade warning is constantly on my screen.

[ShyGuy]

You discovered the COD secret

[Monteblanco]

I think the Wii controls to be much more immersive than the dual analogues or the keyboard and mouse. To a point that I am avoiding any FPS in my PS3 now. It is ok to play a game with a third person view in the ps3 as the main character is like a marionette I am controlling. However, I feel entirely disconnected when playing a game with first person view unless it is the Wii version.

I am a very visual oriented person but the fact is most of the realistic looking games are not that realistic. Many aspects, especially human faces, look awful and bug me a lot -- perhaps I am more sensible to the uncanny valley than most people. As a matter of fact, I much prefer when they try for a more stylized look. As such, I am much more impressed with the look of Metroid Prime Trilogy, which I am currently playing, than Call of Duty: Modern Warfare, which I played with my PS3 a few months ago.

[cubist]

I've had the game since it launched.  The online multi-player is the best on Wii. 

[Stratos]

Care to exchange Fried Codes then, Cubist?

[Toruresu]

I got this game last night and jumped to multiplayer. Awesome experience!

The only trouble I have is, I can't seem to figure out how to set up private matches. I set em up, play alone, invite people to join and they get a "cannot connect to host". The same happens if I try to join my friends private game.

What are we doing wrong?

[Kairon]

I finally dug this game out of my backlog, have had it awhile. I didn't play too deep into it, but I just got past the mission where I got to operate the AC-130 gunship's weapons and... oh god that was sweet. The little guys on the ground in my black-and-white view are mine, the ones without strobelights I rain death on from my constantly circling weapons platform.

Actually, I sorta dug the first mission where my squadmates do a lot. It helps me acclimatize to moving around and keeping up with them, and I was going like "awesome, my computer buddies are actually doing things, I'm part of a real functional team!"

In fact, my only real problem with the game so far is it's pretty easy to get lost and lose focus of where my squadmates have run off to. But I guess that's because it isn't as clearly linear a level design as previous games I've played, and also because of the better sense of immersion into the chaos of war.

[Stratos]

We still don't have an FC thread set up.

I PM'd a request to a mod but nothing yet.

Anyone up for multiplayer?