Topic: Dead Space Extraction

[GoldenPhoenix]

It is when they pull a bait and switch with the wii enthusiasts for several weeks.

Cry me a river of Wii tears. It wasn't bait and switch because they didn't say ANYTHING about what the game was going to be. It was the message board goers who hyped it up to be what they wanted.

[Kairon]

It is when they pull a bait and switch with the wii enthusiasts for several weeks.

Yeah, that's totally not cool.

I'm still bearing a bit of a grudge over the Capcom 5 personally.

[GoldenPhoenix]

It is when they pull a bait and switch with the wii enthusiasts for several weeks.

Yeah, that's totally not cool.

I'm still bearing a bit of a grudge over the Capcom 5 personally.

Nothing wrong with what they did, as always the boards turn it into what they hope it is, so they bait themselves on nothing more then "Dead Space is coming to Wii in some form". Take some responsibility people!

[Kairon]

Well, I think it was unfortunate at least. Also, I don't think people's hopes, though obviously false and irrational, are undeserving of sympathy.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Well, I think it was unfortunate at least. Also, I don't think people's hopes, though obviously false and irrational, are undeserving of sympathy.

The gaming consumer's hopes is something I do NOT want to go by, if that was the case the industry would probably still be making pong clones.

[ShyGuy]

Did you miss my whole salad analogy? EA said "We are bringing tacos to the Wii." Message boards said "mmmm tacos" Then EA said "Suprise, taco salad!"

[GoldenPhoenix]

Did you miss my whole salad analogy? EA said "We are bringing tacos to the Wii." Message boards said "mmmm tacos" Then EA said "Suprise, taco salad!"

EA sad they were bringing the Dead Space franchise to Wii. The end. They said they were bringing a meat based product, not how it would be fixed.

[Dasmos]

Dead Space is a franchise?

[GoldenPhoenix]

Dead Space is a franchise?

Yes because they have made novels and a movie as well. That constitutes a franchise.

[Dasmos]

Well so then Dead Space Extraction is to the Dead Space franchise as Donkey Kong Jr. Math is to the Donkey Kong franchise.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Well so then Dead Space Extraction is to the Dead Space franchise as Donkey Kong Jr. Math is to the Donkey Kong franchise.

It would be more like what Zelda 2 was like to the Zelda franchise. Or SMB2 was to the SMB franchise. It tries a different gameplay formula, though it is set in the same universe. Dead Space: Extraction whether people like it or not is a prequel to the original game so it is part of the series.

[redgiemental]

If Sega announce a new Chu Chu Rocket game is coming out what is your first thought on what to expect?

When Capcom announce a Street Fighter game do you not expect a beat-up game?

If it was announced that Bioshock was coming out on Wii you'd expect it still to be an FPS if you weren't told otherwise.

[Stratos]

If Sega announce a new Chu Chu Rocket game is coming out what is your first thought on what to expect?

When Capcom announce a Street Fighter game do you not expect a beat-up game?

If it was announced that Bioshock was coming out on Wii you'd expect it still to be an FPS if you weren't told otherwise.

Speaking of Bioshock on the Wii, have you heard the latest rumors? 

I don't think they did a bait and switch, ShyGuy, but their PR should probably be a bit more careful in the future. Based on the number of shocked and confused people over the on-rails matter, some connections were obviously made. I wonder what people would be saying if EA didn't say anything until they announced an on-rails Dead Space game as opposed to saying something that meant 'tacos' to people and then revealing what equaled a 'taco salad' to people.

Mmm...now I'm hungry for tacos. I'm not supposed to be hungry, its 4AM where I'm at and I'm pretty sure Taco Bell closes at 3AM. Darn you ShyGuy! I blame you for my hunger. Feed me a taco! With very hot sauce. Crunchy ones. Lots of them. With melty cheese. One of those double-decker ones...Sorry, I'll try to stop now.

[KDR_11k]

Cry me a river of Wii tears. It wasn't bait and switch because they didn't say ANYTHING about what the game was going to be.

They said Dead Space which implies, well, Dead Space with everything that game involves. We would be just as upset if the game mechanics remained in place but instead of a spooky spaceship you're fighting through a cartoony landscape where even the hills smile.

[NWR_insanolord]

Speaking of Chu Chu Rocket, that needs to come to DSiWare.

[Pale]

GP, it is DEFINITELY a bait and switch.

Imagine this hypothetical situation for a second.


Nintendo says at the end of GDC a few years ago the following statement.

"ZELDA IS COMING BACK TO WII, AND IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR!"

And that's it.

Then, a month later they actually "reveal" the game, and it's Link's Crossbow Training.


You telling me you would blame the fans because they expected a traditional Zelda game?

[Kairon]

But Pale, the problem is they announced Dead Space as a side comment at an investment conference call. That's not really a forum intended for gamers, that's a forum intended for investors. In that scenario, EA is talking about a FRANCHISE, and the people listening couldn't care about gameplay one bit. Gamers took that statement entirely out of context... though I don't exactly blame them.

[Pale]

While in an ideal world, maybe....

But enthusiast press were INVITED to the conference call.

What whats-his-name should have said on the conference call is something like this...

"We are bringing a Dead Space prequel to the Wii and we think it is going to be the best on-rails shooting game on the platform."

[Kairon]

Alas, hindsight is 20-20.

I think what I'm trying to say is that this misunderstanding was wholly unintentional on EA's part.

[Pale]

Unintentional, but dumb.

I know for a fact I could have easily seen this coming.

[Plugabugz]

I'm sure people wouldn't have minded if EA stated they are "bringing a dead space iteration to Wii" or "a game in the dead space universe". These people are execs, they should already have the life-long skill of spouting endless big words but not really say anything.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

EA waited too long to announce Dead Spinoff Whatever Franchise Product.  The could've announced it in the earlier part of 2008 following REUC and after the original Dead Space was already revealed and established, when the appearance and analogy of the product would make more sense.

Failure of marketing.

[Flames_of_chaos]

More info:

So now you know that there's really a Dead Space Wii game. And that there really was an unfinished Dead Space Xbox game. In a recent interview, game director Glen Schofield says that the upcoming Wii version looks better than the Xbox one did.

"I'd hope so," says Destructoid Editor-in-Chief Nick Chester. "It's only six years later."

Yeah, I get what Nick's saying. But Schofield is making this game sound really good regardless of what it's compared to:

"You should see it, he says. "It looks fantastic on the Wii. In my opinion (and others) its one of the best looking games so far on the Wii."

And it's not just the visuals that sound good. Schofield says that there "are new enemies, characters, story, puzzles, co-op and weapons. And yes, physics and even zero-g play a huge part in the game."

When asked if we can expect the Wii game to look as good as the Xbox version scenes did, Schofield said "better."

"Better, I think. It really looks freakin great. I kid you not."

I don't know about you all, but I'm looking forward to this game

[GoldenPhoenix]

"ZELDA IS COMING BACK TO WII, AND IT WILL BE OUT THIS YEAR!"

If it was on a conference call to SHAREHOLDERS, I'd be far more forgiving then if it was some massive press event. Seriously people, switching a new genre's play mechanics or genre is NOTHING NEW for both new franchises and more established ones. On-Rails, as shown by UC, is not as huge of a departure as people here are making it seem if done right which is key.

Here is a quote from the original story:

Wii owners have something to be excited about. Moments ago, during an investor conference call, EA's John Riccitiello announced that the uber-atmospheric sci-fi horror romp Dead Space will be coming to the Nintendo Wii.

"A good example of this is Dead Space. We're bringing a Wii title to market this year and it absolutely has the quality and fear factor that you got on the Xbox 360, PS3 and PC last year".

No specific details were talked about however, so release date, potentially differing story lines and of course, control schemes were not addressed. Riccitiello commented, "We're bringing core intellectual property to the Wii." He also said, "Wii is the market leader -- they're getting half of our emphasis in terms of title count."

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Zelda is now MMOParty.