Topic: Official DSi Discussion (was: New DS model Details :rumor)

[Chozo Ghost]

On the negative side:

- No GBA compatibility (this is a real bummer -- I've got lots of fun GBA games, and my GBA hardware is not doing so well)
- REGION-LOCKING

Don't forget the DSi has a shorter battery life than the DS Lite. But to be fair, the DSi does charge up faster, so that kinda helps balance things, I think...

[Djunknown]

Looks like "Nintendo Points not exactly multiplatform."

From the source:

Before you shove that 5,000 Nintendo Points card on to a spanking new DSi, take note points are fixed to a console.

 

[EasyCure]

thats a small hastle but i dont really mind it. It'll keep me from doing too many impulse buys, which is great... for me, not nintendo

[DAaaMan64]

I'm pretty entertained by that guy's username.

[Snipper64]

ANother update of BIG infomation. Give your Kudos to wiinintendo.com for the info....

"DSi Restrictions Due to Missing GBA Slot
Filed under: Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:35 pm


We’ve all been wondering about this, so here’s your answer.  Below is a list of games that will be affected by the missing GBA slot on the DSi.  Some of them (i.e. MP3 Player and Web Broswer), though, have been added to the new design.

Non-Playable games

Famicom Game Adapter
Guitar Hero On Tour
Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades
Face Training / Otona no DS Kao Training
Love and Berry
Mein Vital Coach / My Health Coach
Nintendo MP3 Player
Slide Adventure: Mag Kid
Tony Hawk’s Motion
Opera Web Browser

Slight restrictions (most related to Rumble Pak)

Clubhouse Games
Arkanoid DS
Daigasso! Band Brothers
Hote Dusk
Magnetica / Actionloop
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime Pinball
Pokémon Dash
Pokémon Diamond/Platinum/Pearl
Project Rub / Feel the Magic XX/XY
Space Invaders Extreme
Star Fox Command"

ALSO....

"Nintendo DSi Software Will Be Region-Locked
Filed under: Interview, News, Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:50 pm


Here is a bit of info for all you who are planning on importing a DSi.  It seems that the DSi will not be region locked for basic functions (i.e. DS cartridge games, camera, and internet browser).  However, things such as the DSWare services will be region locked.

“DSi is region locked because DSi embeds net communication functionality within itself, and we are intending to provide net services specifically tailored for each region,” said a statement given to UK consumer website CVG.

The statement reasons that region-locking its upcoming DS hardware upgrade is necessary as the new system will feature parental control features which will be dependent on each region’s unique age limit.

The DSi, however, will be able to play standard Nintendo software from any region, similar to the original Nintendo DS model and the Nintendo DS Lite. Users will also be able to browse the Internet on their DSi from anywhere in the world and exchange photos with friends in other countries."

[Snipper64]

Yes, that means games like the fable guatar hero tour will not work on this... Also, I personaly injoy the Internet option, hopefully it is betters then the wii's...

[stevey]

ANother update of BIG infomation. Give your Kudos to wiinintendo.com for the info....

"DSi Restrictions Due to Missing GBA Slot
Filed under: Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:35 pm


We’ve all been wondering about this, so here’s your answer.  Below is a list of games that will be affected by the missing GBA slot on the DSi.  Some of them (i.e. MP3 Player and Web Broswer), though, have been added to the new design.

Non-Playable games

Famicom Game Adapter
Guitar Hero On Tour
Guitar Hero On Tour: Decades
Face Training / Otona no DS Kao Training
Love and Berry
Mein Vital Coach / My Health Coach
Nintendo MP3 Player
Slide Adventure: Mag Kid
Tony Hawk’s Motion
Opera Web Browser

Slight restrictions (most related to Rumble Pak)

Clubhouse Games
Arkanoid DS
Daigasso! Band Brothers
Hote Dusk
Magnetica / Actionloop
Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time
Metroid Prime Hunters
Metroid Prime Pinball
Pokémon Dash
Pokémon Diamond/Platinum/Pearl
Project Rub / Feel the Magic XX/XY
Space Invaders Extreme
Star Fox Command"

You forgot CASTLEVANIA: DS

[TheFleece]

"Nintendo DSi Software Will Be Region-Locked
Filed under: Interview, News, Nintendo DS — hattrick @ 1:50 pm

Here is a bit of info for all you who are planning on importing a DSi.  It seems that the DSi will not be region locked for basic functions (i.e. DS cartridge games, camera, and internet browser).  However, things such as the DSWare services will be region locked.

“DSi is region locked because DSi embeds net communication functionality within itself, and we are intending to provide net services specifically tailored for each region,” said a statement given to UK consumer website CVG.

The statement reasons that region-locking its upcoming DS hardware upgrade is necessary as the new system will feature parental control features which will be dependent on each region’s unique age limit.

The DSi, however, will be able to play standard Nintendo software from any region, similar to the original Nintendo DS model and the Nintendo DS Lite. Users will also be able to browse the Internet on their DSi from anywhere in the world and exchange photos with friends in other countries."

So suppose I import the DSi, when the system finally gets released here in the states will my imported DSi be able to receive the new features?

[Ian Sane]

The statement reasons that region-locking its upcoming DS hardware upgrade is necessary as the new system will feature parental control features which will be dependent on each region’s unique age limit.

Seriously?  That sounds like a pretty overly-complicated way to feature parental control.

Everywhere I read about this there is discussion about unique DSi games kind of like GBC games that weren't playable on the original Gameboy.  Is this just people talking out of their ass or has Nintendo actually said anything about this?  There's a lot of confusion about it.  Or has Nintendo just not confirmed or denied it and people are jumping to conclusions?

[Flames_of_chaos]

Hmm the ESRB, PEGI and CERO ratings to influence region locking is kind of stupid and not true but the DSi's being region locked because each of them  will go to a region's respective DS shop channel is probably the most likely reason.

[Ceric]

Boo they didn't make it more ergonomic.

[Jonnyboy117]

Everywhere I read about this there is discussion about unique DSi games kind of like GBC games that weren't playable on the original Gameboy.  Is this just people talking out of their ass or has Nintendo actually said anything about this?  There's a lot of confusion about it.  Or has Nintendo just not confirmed or denied it and people are jumping to conclusions?

Nintendo hasn't said for sure, but we discussed this on RFN 118 (not online yet) and all agreed that any DSi-exclusive software will probably be download-only.  This would prevent any confusion at the retail level.

On the same RFN episode, we all took a pretty big piss on the DSi, for a number of reasons.  I may still get one, but the only thing I'm really interested in are the browser (if it's fast) and the downloadable games (if there's anything worthwhile... like a portable Virtual Console).

[blackfootsteps]

Surely they'll have original GB titles as downloadable? What amounts of memory do they take up?

[jakeOSX]

i suspect the region locking for the shop has to do with royalties more than anything else. just like wii-ware, PSN, iTunes, etc etc, is still a regional store.

it makes too much sense for the internet to work the same everywhere.

[mac<censored>]

My impression is that there's just a general sort of control-freakery in the industry, especially among "content providers"... NIntendo seems to have been sort of lukewarm about region control the past -- nintendo consoles tended to have either no region control or something almost trivially defeatable -- but they probably are trying their best to make software suppliers happy these days...

[Adrock]

Surely they'll have original GB titles as downloadable? What amounts of memory do they take up?

GB titles weren't very large. Something like Tetris was only like 256kb. Some of the more complicated games were larger, but probably not terribly larger.

It'd be nice if Nintendo used this opportunity to give us Mother 3. Just saying...

[EasyCure]

they'd have to release Mother 1 and 2 first..

[Adrock]

Would that really be so hard?

[EasyCure]

We haven't seen them re-released (outside of japan) yet have we?

[Adrock]

So because they haven't, they won't? What? Pilotwings 64 hasn't been re-released yet. Shall we assume that game will never be re-released either? Or shall we just assume that, for some inexplicable reason, Nintendo has suddenly decided that they don't want to make money for doing next to nothing. VC games are almost entirely all pure profit. Mother 1 and 3 need to be localized, but Nintendo will spend nothing on marketing, pressing the game into a disc/cart, boxes, manuals, shipping etc.

[EasyCure]

So because they haven't, they won't? What? Pilotwings 64 hasn't been re-released yet. Shall we assume that game will never be re-released either? Or shall we just assume that, for some inexplicable reason, Nintendo has suddenly decided that they don't want to make money for doing next to nothing. VC games are almost entirely all pure profit. Mother 1 and 3 need to be localized, but Nintendo will spend nothing on marketing, pressing the game into a disc/cart, boxes, manuals, shipping etc.

don't get so bent out of shape, i'm just speaking on behalf of a deprived earthbound fan. We all know nintendo loves money, especially when it comes from us buying games that are re-released. In the case of Mother 3, they'd milk the fanbase by releasing mother 1 and 2 first, building up hype for 3... then not releasing it. Then later on, re-releasing 1 and 2 and finally 3 for extra profits!

this would of made sense to do during GBA's reign since they DID re-release mother 1+2 for gba but they never brought it outside of japan. Along comes the DS and a few SNES sequels and re-makes and everyone gets excited thinking we'll get a mother 1+2+3 and what does nintendo do?!? Nothing! Flash forward to VC and you'd think we woulda had it by now, 2 years after wii's release... and still nothing. So many missed chances to print money and they haven't acted upon it. Thats all i'm saying.

[Snipper64]

So because they haven't, they won't? What? Pilotwings 64 hasn't been re-released yet. Shall we assume that game will never be re-released either? Or shall we just assume that, for some inexplicable reason, Nintendo has suddenly decided that they don't want to make money for doing next to nothing. VC games are almost entirely all pure profit. Mother 1 and 3 need to be localized, but Nintendo will spend nothing on marketing, pressing the game into a disc/cart, boxes, manuals, shipping etc.

don't get so bent out of shape, i'm just speaking on behalf of a deprived earthbound fan. We all know nintendo loves money, especially when it comes from us buying games that are re-released. In the case of Mother 3, they'd milk the fanbase by releasing mother 1 and 2 first, building up hype for 3... then not releasing it. Then later on, re-releasing 1 and 2 and finally 3 for extra profits!

this would of made sense to do during GBA's reign since they DID re-release mother 1+2 for gba but they never brought it outside of japan. Along comes the DS and a few SNES sequels and re-makes and everyone gets excited thinking we'll get a mother 1+2+3 and what does nintendo do?!? Nothing! Flash forward to VC and you'd think we woulda had it by now, 2 years after wii's release... and still nothing. So many missed chances to print money and they haven't acted upon it. Thats all i'm saying.

Wow, the sad thing is that makes PERFECT sence that nitendo would do...

[Snipper64]

The card slot

[Snipper64]

Also, here is the price info

[DAaaMan64]

Snipper64, your hotlinking images. You can't do that on NWR. Just sayin'