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Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« on: February 10, 2007, 06:26:35 AM »
Someone bitched about the Wii not having Capcom games on the Capcom forums and one of their representatives posted a response.

This is what he had to say (from Go Nintendo):
"The following comment is from Christian Svensson, Sr. Director of Strategic Planning & Research at Capcom…

We have more titles coming to Wii than what’s been announced HOWEVER, I must admit, many of them (outside of RE) are not mature titles despite the fact that’s an area Capcom is known for.

By and large, we don’t see the Wii being home to an sizble mature playerbase outside of some of the early adopters. We see it as being very, very broad with a family focus (especially in Japan). If there is a “core player base” on Wii, within two years, it will be largely a younger player (far younger than 360 or PS3).

You’ll see more announcements later this year on this front."

It's good to know that we are getting some games, but it sucks that Capcom is still with the "Nintendo's for families" mentality.

Looks like Reggie needs to do some regginating at Capcom...
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2007, 07:05:20 AM »
Capcom hasn't been right about anything in quite a while. Its gonna be sad to see them miss yet another opportunity to reach the gamers they are trying so hard to reach. EA has realized their mistake and are doing all that they can to fix it. Don't underestimate the Wii audience and don't insult us with only games made for children(outside of RE).

I thought it was known that the NEW audience is an older and more mature audience. *The Wii is the new PS2 and next-gen gamers will bow down to the NEW gen that will eventually take a commanding lead*. If we don't receive the next DMC, Onimusha or whatever the next/other "mature" franchise(s) Capcom has its more their loss than ours. But as long as they bring on the next Street Fighter, Megaman, Viewtiful Joe, etc etc. I think we'll all be fine.
Capcom will come around at some point, but they just don't know the huge opportunity they have to help shape the audience that will be on the Wii. There will always appear to be no "mature" gamers on the Wii if developers don't release "mature" games on the Wii for "mature" Wii gamers to buy. classic catch-22(chicken or the egg?)

*this whole sentence has yet to be proven true and was only thrown in just for the hell of it.

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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2007, 07:12:15 AM »
Capcom is self destructive. I think they may have surpassed Sega and Sony in the dumb moves department.

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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2007, 07:15:41 AM »
I don't mind it that much, Capcom's kids games aren't worse than their normal or "mature" games. I, for one, liked Gotcha Force.

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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2007, 07:49:00 AM »
their still upset that RE4 didnt do as well on the Cube as they expected. However they are retarded as they seem to keep forgetting that they announced the ps2 version right before its release. Ingeniuoius if you ask me. damn faqs..

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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2007, 08:10:54 AM »
I really would like to know when a "very, very broad" meant children under the age of 10 and Family meant a group of 3 year olds.  Last I checked families range from little kids to teens and the adults are always 13+.  Also last I checked most of the world population was also adults.  Which you would assume be part of this "very very broad" pool of games.

By there definition it would seem that Narrow=Mature.  Well why don't they make an AO game for the V.Smile.

Why won't developers see that the family consists of more then just pre-teen children.  Why won't the world in general see that the world is not just kids...  arg...
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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2007, 08:47:23 AM »
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2007, 08:57:40 AM »
Capcom isn't dumb guys: their moves make sense. All of their traditional hardcore game energies are already devoted to the XBox 360 (ie. Dead Rising, Lost Planet, etc.) and if they've already made commitments there, they're not as likely to downshift for the Wii. They could downport stuff, but that'd be quite a bit of hassle.

So, it's not their fault, it's only natural that since so much of their traditional stuff is tied to the X360, the Wii gets other things. Like hopefully Megaman.

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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2007, 09:05:55 AM »
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Originally posted by: Kairon
Capcom isn't dumb guys: their moves make sense. All of their traditional hardcore game energies are already devoted to the XBox 360 (ie. Dead Rising, Lost Planet, etc.) and if they've already made commitments there, they're not as likely to downshift for the Wii. They could downport stuff, but that'd be quite a bit of hassle.

So, it's not their fault, it's only natural that since so much of their traditional stuff is tied to the X360, the Wii gets other things. Like hopefully Megaman.

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Actually I think you could argue it is their fault, if Wii becomes a breakout hit, then Capcom will look absolutely stupid for focusing their "traditional hardcore" energies on the Xbox 360 instead of the Wii.
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2007, 09:12:52 AM »
Yeah, but there's no denying that they've found success on the X360, with Dead rising a smash hit saleswise and Lost Planet landing about now, I think they made their bet a while ago, and it seems that it wasn't too bad of a bet. If they had bet PS3 then you can be darn tootin' sure they'd be scramblin' right now but they have found a milkable hardcore audience on the X360 and I don't think they're about to abandon that.

That said, Capcom should know that Megaman is NOT a mature franchise, but one for lapsed gamers and families the world over. And they should know that Street Fighter and other Capcom-esuqe fighting games should also get ported to the Wii due to their 2D nature and the Wiis install base making it a safe bet for profitability.

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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2007, 09:19:35 AM »
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Capcom isn't dumb


EXCEPT CAPCOM STILL HATEZ TEH $$$!!!!!11!!
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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2007, 09:31:57 AM »
Capcom used to be one of my favorite companies, now they have dropped off the radar almost entirely for me.  They still have some franchises i love but if they pull a sonic on me again, I'll lose it.

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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2007, 09:32:21 AM »
Speaking of Lost Planet it started out pretty good (I just rented it), though the stupid rental copy froze up after the first "mission" because it couldn't read the disk! Which sucked because it seemed like it was going to be a fun, if not mindless action game with some impressive visuals (My jaw dropped when I encountered the big alien at the end of the mission 1).
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2007, 10:25:19 AM »
Me think Capcom is approaching Konami in terms of stupidity.

All of this bluster won't mean a hill of beans if by this time next year the Wii is neck and neck with the 360.  
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2007, 10:29:48 AM »
Sven just responded in the initial thread:

Please don't read more into my comments above than I've written.

I think you're going to see some amazing Wii titles from Capcom. I just suspect that they won't all be blood and guts and they will likely be much more broadly focused. That also doesn't mean, our games in the Will will be "kiddie". Those are two very different extremes. We're likely to be somewhere in the middle with new products. Inafune-san already mentioned in some Japanese coverage that we have a new IP on the Wii that will be shown "soon". Internally, we're very excited about its prospects for success (and tapping into that broad market).

Remember:

Mature =| broadly appealing =| kiddie.

Edit: On another note, I've obviously seen all of the requests for Okami on Wii in this thread an others. I too think it would be great (both from a gameplay and a fit on the platform) but unfortunately, we've got no news on that front. I just wanted to at least let people know we're certainly aware of the demand.


I say get on those forums and tell him what you want.  Can't hurt.
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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2007, 10:55:33 AM »
Well thats better to hear that sort of response.  I'm curious about what the new IP is.  Capcom getting some new IP is actually a good thing.
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2007, 11:10:36 AM »
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Sven just responded in the initial thread:
I say get on those forums and tell him what you want.  Can't hurt.
That would be alot easier if someone had provided a link to the initial thread

 

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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #17 on: February 10, 2007, 11:32:47 AM »
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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2007, 11:33:01 AM »
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Sven just responded in the initial thread:
I say get on those forums and tell him what you want.  Can't hurt.
That would be alot easier if someone had provided a link to the initial thread


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RE:Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2007, 11:58:36 AM »
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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2007, 12:02:39 PM »
I can't shake the feeling that Capcom might have more than a valid point...

The number of Wiis purchased is growing--and growing fast. Nintendo's strategy to appeal to non-gamers with their console is definitely working, but I'm starting to feel that this strategy is something that is going to bite them on the ass...at least partially.

I was at a party last night that was made up up of mostly grad students. A lot of them didn't know much about video games. Someone brought up Wii Sports, and the reaction was amazing. I sat and listened to 5 people who admitted they didn't play video games each talk about how awesome Wii Sports is and how they would buy a Wii to play it. It was the first time I really believed in Nintendo's strategy.

However, that didn't last very long.

As the conversation went on, however, it became more and more apparent that NONE of the five people knew anything about other games for the Wii outside of Wii Sports, nor did they really seem to care. Someone mentioned Warioware, and the only response it got was someone saying it looked weird. Nobody knew what Wii Play or Wii Music was, and they weren't really interested when I described them. There was basically a room full of non-gamers that wanted to buy a Wii simply for Wii Sports.

This setup is good for Nintendo. Their initial Wii push and focus on WiiSports has hit their blue ocean they were going for. There's still quite a demand for the system. So far the tie in ratio with other games like Zelda is pretty good, too. But I think it's still fairly safe to say that the majority of the systems purchased at this point have still gone to games with the determination and know-how to snatch a console off the shelves the second it comes out. However, I have always feared, and it seems Capcom is also fearing, that when non-gamers REALLY start to flex their muscles on the console, that there'll be a lot of numbers, yes, but a lot of shallow numbers made of people who really aren't intending to purchase much anything else outside of what comes with the console.

You can get a non-gamer to play a game if you do just enough to make it appeal to them. But it takes more than a game to turn a non-gamer into a gamer. I think Capcom, and maybe a few other developers, are still unsure of the Wii's numbers because, though the number is growing at a surprising rate, they really aren't sure of who makes up those numbers. Capcom is right in that Nintendo is going for a broad audience, and that broad audience isn't unnecessarily gamers, but kids and grandparents. People who are interested in the console and the game it comes with, but still not interested in purchasing the harcore, mature games true gamers want. And if this demographic becomes dominant on the Wii, then to a lot of developers it won't matter if the Wii outsells the 360: The 360 (and maybe even the PS3) will still look more appealing, if it looks like there are more people wanting to buy their mature titles on those systems than on the Wii.

I think Nintendo's done enough to attract the non-gamer at this point. The console is a smash hit with them, and when Nintendo finally catches up with the demand, I think the Wii is going to catch up to the 360 a lot sooner than Nintendo expects, and definitely leave PS3 in the dust. But it's the GAMERS that the system is still struggling to appeal to. Most Nintendo fans are on board, sure. But a lot of gamers who might not be Nintendo faithful are still not swayed by the Wii's graphics, the wishy-washy controller (that no third party has yet to push into the territory of unparalleled awesome), and lack of mature and committed third party support (Dewy REALLY doesn't count). Nintendo has still got a lot to do if it wants to sway THOSE gamers, and they're going to need those gamers if they want third parties to seriously bring over their mature, blockbuster titles.

Nintendo needs to get it in gear and seriously kiss major developer butt and convince them that the Wii truly is for EVERYONE, and not just "everyone else". It won't matter how much the Wii sells if it looks like most of those Wii only only want titles like Wii Sports. Up to this point Nintendo really pushed and catered to the non-gamer. Now they need to shift their focus if they want Nintendo to really be taken seriously by developers and get those tried and true hits that are, so far, going to other players.


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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #21 on: February 10, 2007, 12:26:03 PM »
Thing is, the tie-in ratio for the Wii is currently around 5:1, meaning that people are INDEED buying the 3rd party software.

Brain Age and Nintendogs didn't come with the DS, yet many people must have seen it played then went out to buy both it and a DS at some point.

I have faith that the same will happen with the Wii.
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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2007, 12:44:53 PM »
Exactly, the facts are against them, simple as that. If they really cared so much about Japan they wouldn't be releasing so many 360 games. They are acting like weasels.

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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2007, 01:04:53 PM »
WarioWare, I imagine, will sell mostly to Mario and Nintendo fans, of which there are many. I'm sure game store employees will be able to sell them to some newcomers, but not a lot. The point with Wii Sports is to sell systems to as many people as possible; I don't think they expect everyone of them to buy games like Red Steel and the like. However, if Wii gets the installbase of the PS2, it's in a very good position to put those games in the hands of millions of gamers than they would have with a Gamecube 2 (or the Xbox 360, as Microsoft will find). But I think it's hard to make predictions at this point, since supplies haven't stablized from the launch and it's still impossible to get a Wii from a store.

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RE: Capcom has a lot of Wii games planned, but...
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2007, 01:09:05 PM »
Yeah, and all those mature PS3 games are gonna be million+ sellers on a console that has been rather weak in the sales department.
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