Author Topic: IGN reviews (Read 43178 times)

Darkheart · « **Reply #125 on:** November 17, 2006, 12:53:51 AM »

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Originally posted by: wandering
At least, in ign land - a strange and mysterious place where review scores have never matched up with how worthy a game is of purchase. A land whose inhabitants think Donkey Kong 64 and Star Fox Adventures are better games than Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney.

Oh PLEASE STOP THIS STOP NOW!!!!

You are inferring that there is some ultimate MASTER list of games from the Nes to Wii that are all rated in some defined order. At least do this within its own system. All 3 games you mentioned are for 3 different Nintendo systems and thats going WAY out of line. You can not just compare Ocarina of time to nanostray on Ds and what not.

That is like if you guys turned on the NWR staff and started going all out on them. Remember that high score for GBA mario tennis? What if he gave Zelda the same score? Are you all goin to flip? What about the new super mario bros on the DS, most reviews gave it a score in the 9 range. . . . Does that mean its equal to Zelda twilight princess!? Also remember that games at launch usually are critiqued a bit easier than later in the systems life because there are better examples of what a game should be like for the appropriate console.

I think you guys just look for excuses to hate on Ign sometimes. They are more reputable than some sites and are at least loyal to their fans. Most of their visitors are Nintendo fanboys. It just seems so stupid to bash on Ign so much when they are actually a good thing for the most part for the Nintendo online fan community. If you need or want to hate on someone go hate on Joystiq because they do shady stuff thats retarded.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #126 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:00:22 AM »

I think that Red Steel review seemed pretty fair. It was a little brief and I think it should've gotten an 80 from his description. It seemed his biggest complaint was that the sword stuff was a little slow (I'm assuming this was done on purpose, and is something easily overcame with a couple of practice fights), and the enemy AI which does sound like Ubisoft screwed up a bit. All in all though from the description I would say it warrants a score of an 80 or above.

Nick DiMola · « **Reply #127 on:** November 17, 2006, 01:19:58 AM »

I do have a small dislike of IGN because my gaming opinions and views don't align with them very often, and I think they are very pompous about what they think is good or bad (made evident in their blogs). I will from time to time read up on what they have to say but I don't take any score they publish to heart becaue quite frankly I do enough research on every game I purchase that by the time it comes out, without reading a single review I know I want it.

On the other hand, I have a huuuuuuuuuuuge hatred for gamespot. They are Sony fanboys (which is the worst kind of fanboy). You have all different editors reviewing games on every system, and half of the editors on the site really don't like Nintendo games. When games are reviewed you see terrible scores for Nintendo games and great scores for mediocre crap games on the PS2, hell even the Xbox gets the shaft over there. Games that I loved from the N64 era were sh!t all over by Jeff Gerstmann (who I especially hate), then games that I could never see the value in were praised (without reason). When most of those reviewers can't get into a game (usually because they suck at it) they rip on it. They find all the negatives and bring those to the forefront in their review like they are 2 year old or something.

As far a set score for all games out there, for each of us there is a set score out there for every single game. We all have different opinions and tastes. Though all of us in these forums are Nintendo fans, we still aren't guaranteed to like the same thing (see Smash Bros. vs. Melee debate). But in a broader sense, there is a more fitting score for all games out there than the score it receives typically when it is really high, or really low(this is more rare).

Bottom line: Read the review for information about the game, if you like what they have to say or don't like what they have to say, keep the score but don't take it to heart. You know what you like and dislike, if your likes line up with the focus of the game you should be just fine. I usually read the impressions for a much more solid description of what's going on, though they all seem to wind up sounding very positive.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #128 on:** November 17, 2006, 05:39:10 AM »

Regarding what you compare games to I say you compare to what is being released at the same time for similar platforms. PC games to PC games, console games to console games, and portable games to portable games. Competing consoles count because otherwise what is your standard? Should the best N-Gage game get a 10 because it compares well to other N-Gage games? No. It should compare to GBA, DS and PSP games released around the same time. And if a game from years ago on weaker hardware implements features better that should be mentioned. Things obviously shouldn't be going backwards. So Wii games should be compared to PS3 and X360 games since that is the direct competition. Hardware specific things are the expection as they should be compared to the capabilities of the system itself but overall quality should be compared to games released around the same time.

hudsonhawk · « **Reply #129 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:48:21 AM »

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Originally posted by: darkheart

I think you guys just look for excuses to hate on Ign sometimes. They are more reputable than some sites and are at least loyal to their fans. Most of their visitors are Nintendo fanboys. It just seems so stupid to bash on Ign so much when they are actually a good thing for the most part for the Nintendo online fan community. If you need or want to hate on someone go hate on Joystiq because they do shady stuff thats retarded.

Agreed and well said. I've never understood the hate-on that a lot of the people here have for IGN. They're reliable, relatively respectable, and their reviews tend to be honest and informative (if 2-3 pages too long).

Yes they can be critical of Nintendo but I've never felt their criticisms were unfair.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #130 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:59:31 AM »

In the case of THDJ, three other review sources gave it 90, 92 and 87, while IGN hits it with a 70 (all out of 100, of course).

I'm inclined to believe IGN's reviews are worthless, especially when you read their THDJ review and it complains about the sensitivity of the Wiimote being too low and I'm almost positive the game includes an option to adjust it in the settings menu.

I'm just not going to give their reviews any credence anymore.

KnowsNothing · « **Reply #131 on:** November 17, 2006, 07:28:55 AM »

From the IGN review (right after they complain about the sensitivity):

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It was originally an intention to include a sensitivity option in the menu to tweak the controller's tilt, but that apparently had to be cut out.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #132 on:** November 17, 2006, 07:54:16 AM »

So I skim. Big whup. Wanna fight about it?

But their controller qualms are still contrasted by far more persuasive testimony such as this:

After all this, here is the part that blew me away. My wife, the non-gamer, asked me if she could try the game. After a few short minutes of play, she was doing almost as well as I was, and was very convinced that we ‘need’ a Wii and this game as soon as it launches. The Wiimote and some excellent design made my wife into a gamer. This may be the happiest moment of my life. Source

He never mentioned the control feeling at all awkward or difficult, especially since his non-gamer wife was apparently able to pick up and go with such haste.

Kairon · « **Reply #133 on:** November 17, 2006, 11:09:32 AM »

PGC reviews are the best.

...dunno about NWR's though...

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Jin-X · « **Reply #134 on:** November 17, 2006, 03:24:35 PM »

Madden gets an 8.5 from IGN: here

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8.5    Presentation
It has more modes than the other versions, a good mix of multiplayer, and a tutorial mode that makes the transition to Wii very smooth. More precision in motion is the next step.
7.0    Graphics
Madden 07 looks like a slight upgrade from the GCN version. There’s definite room for improvement though, as animation flickers, sketchy textures, and horizontal tearing is still apparent.
8.5    Sound
As always, EA’s choice of in-game music is pretty dead on for the genre. Tons of tracks, decent commentary, and pretty admirable sound effects too.
8.5    Gameplay
Most of the motion control is intuitive and entertaining, though kicking is a bit off. A few of the motions are very specific, and need exact input. Multiplayer is a great addition
9.0    Lasting Appeal
With dozens of different modes and options, there’s no way Madden 07 will let a hardcore football fan down. Multiplayer is the icing on the cake, and we’d love more in the future.

IceCold · « **Reply #135 on:** November 17, 2006, 05:17:24 PM »

It got 8.5 for sound..

Shecky · « **Reply #136 on:** November 17, 2006, 05:28:38 PM »

I read nothing in the review (and don't care too), but IGN gave Zelda a 9.5

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #137 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:03:29 PM »

Where the heck are the Red Steel reviews? Out of all the games at launch I would think that one would have been a priority over games like Tony Hawk, especially with all the concerns!

wandering · « **Reply #138 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:11:35 PM »

I don't know, but I think the heavy amount of Red Steel advertising over at ign might have something to do with it....

Caterkiller · « **Reply #139 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:21:18 PM »

I read alot of the IGN review and it seemed very fair. But I had to stop reading once it described in 2 words, one of the temples. I wish I had stumbled upon it for myself.

matt oz · « **Reply #140 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:26:57 PM »

I'm kind of disappointed not to have the IGN review of 'Red Steel.'

Everyone knew Zelda would be great, no question. I doubt very many purchases were hinging on reviews of the game.

But Red Steel seems a lot more iffy, so I would've liked to see that review.

Hopefully walmart.com has already shipped Zelda so I can play it on Sunday. I should've bought it at a store, but I thought it would be too hard to find, so I went with the internet, and now I hope I don't regret it.

wandering · « **Reply #141 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:50:44 PM »

Gamespot's Red Steel review is up. 5.5.

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It just seems so stupid to bash on Ign so much when they are actually a good thing for the most part for the Nintendo online fan community. If you need or want to hate on someone go hate on Joystiq because they do shady stuff thats retarded.

People hate ign because they're the biggest game in town. There are worse gaming websites, but none of them are more popular.

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That is like if you guys turned on the NWR staff and started going all out on them. Remember that high score for GBA mario tennis? What if he gave Zelda the same score? Are you all goin to flip?

Not really a fair comparison because NWR allows multiple reviews of the same game, and doesn't declare any one person's opinion definitive.

Kairon · « **Reply #142 on:** November 17, 2006, 06:59:28 PM »

Red Steel got a 5.5?

Sounds about right to me, especially with Gamespot's review scale. I never expected the game to be anything more than average + waggle.

GOD Sunday is so close, I can't wait to play it!

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

Mario · « **Reply #143 on:** November 17, 2006, 08:11:44 PM »

The funny thing is, I want to play Red Steel more than ever now.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #144 on:** November 17, 2006, 08:21:48 PM »

The complaints about the game seem stupid and nitpicky (how can you not give the visuals anything better than a 6?!?!). Ok fine the AI is kind of retarded, but that is not always a game killer if the game is built around it (Red Steel has always looked like more of a shoot em with some innovation). They almost gloss over how the Wiimote is used, and I still did not get the impression what made the sword fights so bad except they are slower paced, and are "forced". Heck you need to look no farthere than Gamespots supposed "bad" aspects of the game to see the nitpicking.

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The Bad: Clunky sword-fighting sequences slapped into the middle of all the shooting; inane story chock-full of painful dialogue and voice acting; numerous noticeable bugs and glitches.

Oh no, bad dialogue, inane story, we NEVER get those in first person shooters. Glitches and bugs? From what I read they are not that bad. Probaly the only legit one is the "clunky sword-fighting" which remains to be seen.

Rhoq · « **Reply #145 on:** November 17, 2006, 11:26:51 PM »

Well guys, I'm bored out of my mind waiting for the Wii. To pass few minutes of time, I was curious to see how IGN had rated the launch titles for both the Wii and the PS3.

IGN has reviewed 8 Wii titles as of right now and 14 PS3...

The average IGN rating for the PS3 is 7.4
The average IGN rating for the Wii is 8.1

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #146 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:12:02 AM »

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Originally posted by: Rhoq
Well guys, I'm bored out of my mind waiting for the Wii. To pass few minutes of time, I was curious to see how IGN had rated the launch titles for both the Wii and the PS3.

IGN has reviewed 8 Wii titles as of right now and 14 PS3...

The average IGN rating for the PS3 is 7.4
The average IGN rating for the Wii is 8.1

That is actually a pretty good average for Wii, I just hope Red Steel at least gets a 7/10 because the gamespot review has me a bit concerned (even if I felt it was nitpicky).

The Omen · « **Reply #147 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:20:03 AM »

The longer IGN waits to post their Red Steel review, the more convinced I am that they're holding it back purposely because they ripped the game apart. A favor for Ubi, perhaps?

trip1eX · « **Reply #148 on:** November 18, 2006, 09:27:58 AM »

A second opinion from a poster who (eventually) says he's works for Nintendo Power UK and said REd STeel is much better than Gamespot said. He reviewed the final version for the magazine which comes out in a few weeks. Also says he owns a 360 and play Gears of War and isn't a fanboy.....

He sounds pretty convincing so I believe him tho with the internet you never know. He says you can bet he rated the game much higher.

I have to say GAmespot's complaints don't bug me and the reviewer spent little time outlining how well the aiming and turning is with the wiimote and covering things such as 'nade throws, kinds of guns or the slowdown mode or sparing lives.....

I really agree with the poster in the link above when he says 2 things.

First most reviews aren't taking into consideration what the Wii is really about and that's F-U-N.

And second, the review (and this is true for other reviews even semi-favorable ones) spends more time criticizing the game for what it isn't instead of what it is.

He also harps on glitches and what not yet provides pretty much zero examples.

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Author Topic: IGN reviews (Read 43178 times)