Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 867764 times)

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1200 on:** December 27, 2006, 07:52:11 AM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Wii vs. DS plz

You KNOW it's going to come to that...

WuTangTurtle · « **Reply #1201 on:** December 27, 2006, 09:29:39 AM »

you guys forget about the two strongest competitors, The Phantom, and the Next NGage! You'll see, they'll climb up to the console charts and stare down at the other consoles laughing! The 360 and the PSP won't know what hit them, BWahaha!

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1202 on:** December 27, 2006, 07:34:59 PM »

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
Wii vs. DS plz

Well these are the only two consoles that are both, current , past & next-gen.

currently here, using last gen tech, and next gen control.
They are the only two on the same playing field.
They could only compete with each other.

segagamer12 · « **Reply #1203 on:** December 30, 2006, 09:26:41 AM »

i replied to the wrong thread abotu my friend getting the component cables but not liking them and selling them. Sorry for the confusion.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1204 on:** January 03, 2007, 01:47:08 PM »

Is it considered a good or bad thing that the PS3 has been for sale all day on Bestbuy.com and they have not run out of stock yet.

Good because Sony has finally provided a store with enough stock..
or Bad because consumers have lost interest in PS3 and Sony is no longer able to sell out their stock.

and for reference, Wii isn't even listed on the website cause they never seem to have enough stock to keep the stores supplied.

capamerica · « **Reply #1205 on:** January 03, 2007, 04:26:45 PM »

Wow that is a really bad thing, Even the Xbox360 was still out of stock on all Online Stores in January. You had to be lucky and hit a store at just the right min to get a 360.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1206 on:** January 03, 2007, 06:43:30 PM »

This conversation took place in the "Porn sites support the Wii" thread in the Wii section.
I thought it should be posted here as well...

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Porn picked HD-DVD over BRD?
when did that happen?

Actually, it's the opposite. (Vivid's first dvd goes to Blu-ray)

According to that inteview, they only choose BRD initially because the company they are working with on that specific movie is a Bluray supporter from the start. Now that Sony has dropped the ball in the "supply the demand" depaartment, I wouldn't be surprised to see all of their HDTV-DVD content primarily goto HD-DVD w/ consideration to Bluray afterwards, and not the other way around as mentioned in the interview.

And according to this post(on AVSforums), HD-DVD is the current favorite for the majority of the Porn industy, and its mostly cause of cost of disc and manufacturing.
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Originally posted by: JLaures on AVSforums
I’m the HD project manager for the largest US adult catalog and think “adult” could influence the format battle.

We were initially going Blu-Ray because of Sony’s Hollywood and CE commitments, but the cost differences in hardware and most importantly, disk replication, combined with good HD DVD and bad Blu-Ray buzz changed our decision to releasing only on HD DVD. Right now, it looks like most of the adult industry will go the same way.

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Well good sh!t...

Another blow to Sony is always a good thing.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1207 on:** January 03, 2007, 09:26:55 PM »

Aaaaaand the law of inverse darwinism in technology ("survival of the least fit") strikes again.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1208 on:** January 04, 2007, 04:16:36 AM »

I guess the point, after all these years, is that economical fitness trumps technological fitness, everything else being equal.

When things aren't equal, who knows? The argument could be made that both formats are doomed in the face of digital distribution (I'd rather buy porn straight from the internet than go to a store.)

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Is it considered a good or bad thing that the PS3 has been for sale all day on Bestbuy.com and they have not run out of stock yet.

That depends on how many units Best Buy has. Probably bad thing, I doubt Sony suddenly supplied them with 250,000 new units.

capamerica · « **Reply #1209 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:00:33 AM »

Its been 24 hours since BestBuy listed the PS3 as being "in stock" on their site and the system has not reached 'sold out' yet.
This is a VERY bad sign. As I said the Xbox360 was never in stock for more then a few mins and as we've seen with the Wii its normally sold out with in a matter of secs.

Requiem · « **Reply #1210 on:** January 04, 2007, 05:18:32 AM »

Wii isn't even listed...

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1211 on:** January 04, 2007, 06:56:30 AM »

Uh Oh... earlier reports that are in this thread are being reported on by a major news site

ABC has changed the story headline, but the story has stayed the same.
changed from "Game Over for PS3?" to "PS3 Not So Hard To Find?"

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1212 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:08:50 AM »

Soon piles of Ps3s will spill out of Gamestop stores in shopping malls, killing innocent passerbys.

In the words of Shang Tsung in his famous live-action role, "IT HAS BEGUNNN!!"

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #1213 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:15:29 AM »

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
Uh Oh... earlier reports that are in this thread are being reported on by a major news site

ABC has changed the story headline, but the story has stayed the same.
changed from "Game Over for PS3?" to "PS3 Not So Hard To Find?"

I love analysts. They're the magic 8-balls of the business world.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #1214 on:** January 04, 2007, 07:32:47 AM »

Since Bestbuy.com has had 60GB PS3's in stock for more than 24 hours now(they are even refernced in the ABC article above) maybe we can see how long supply will last on Amazon.com

I think they have been available since about 10am pst. Either they have alot of stock(41 at the time of this post) or the damand was only high because of Christmas and the ability to capitalize on desperate parents and gamers hoping to get thier hands on this Christmas' HOT holiday item and the perfect Christmas present which incidentally turned out to be the Wii, not the PS3.

vudu · « **Reply #1215 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:17:33 AM »

Well, it's 44 now.

Although, that number isn't the quantity that Amazon is selling. That's the number of sellers on Amazon Marketplace selling one.

Ian Sane · « **Reply #1216 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:28:43 AM »

Just for fun I'll mention that yesterday I saw a PS3 for sale. It was quite surprising but there it was clear as day in a store full of people. No Wii's were available of course.

Ceric · « **Reply #1217 on:** January 04, 2007, 08:39:57 AM »

Ok. You know why VHS actually beat Betamax was mainly due to porn. Sony wouldn't allow it on there media so they all used VHS. Thats why UMDs contents weren't regulated.

So yeah. Porn support HD-DVD then thats a big leg up to win.

stevey · « **Reply #1218 on:** January 04, 2007, 01:33:54 PM »

"Please buy them! Please!"

lol, sony has already lost.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #1219 on:** January 05, 2007, 04:15:42 AM »

Ha ha, good find, Stevey.

This part of BlackNMild's link got me:

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And the Winner Is …

It may be too early to predict a winner in the next generation console war, but that doesn't keep some experts from speculating.

"The "next gen" war has only just begun, but from the early skirmishes, things are looking pretty good for Microsoft," said Davison. "Nintendo had a good holiday season, but it has a lot to prove."

Crecente, who believes Sony's PlayStation 3 is a powerful system that's capable of offering a great experience, agreed with Davison's assessment.

"I would say Microsoft [will be the winner]," he said. "Sony is not winning — that's easy to say — there have been so many missteps. Nintendo has a tremendous amount of buzz, but Microsoft has really taken advantage of the year's head start."

Silly analysts. The only reason to believe MS will win is because of it's headstart, but if you dig a little deeper, you can see the head start has been squandered. Wii is keeping up pace with 360 sales even with shortages, 360 failed to outsell PS2 for practically all of 2006, and worst of all 360 failed to outdo the original Xbox's first year sales - even with no next-gen competition!

Things could be looking up for Microsoft this year as consumers lose interest in PS3. A price drop might help too. But I'll be surprised if Microsoft is still in first place two years from now.

vudu · « **Reply #1220 on:** January 05, 2007, 06:09:11 AM »

PS3 is sold out on amazon.com; still available on bestbuy.com.

JonLeung · « **Reply #1221 on:** January 05, 2007, 06:18:57 AM »

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Silly analysts. The only reason to believe MS will win is because of it's headstart, but if you dig a little deeper, you can see the head start has been squandered. Wii is keeping up pace with 360 sales even with shortages, 360 failed to outsell PS2 for practically all of 2006, and worst of all 360 failed to outdo the original Xbox's first year sales - even with no next-gen competition!

So what you're essentially saying is that:
Xbox 360 isn't selling any faster than the Wii. (They aren't beating Nintendo's "underpowered" console.)
Xbox 360 couldn't beat the PS2's sales in 2006. (They couldn't beat Sony's last-gen console.)
Xbox 360 couldn't beat the Xbox's sales in 2001. (They couldn't beat their own last-gen console.)

So, they can't beat anyone's weaker console. That's pretty sad - and the analysts think Microsoft will come out on top?

KDR_11k · « **Reply #1222 on:** January 05, 2007, 07:29:17 AM »

I think "porn decides the winner" is total BS. Betamax had tapes that couldn't hold a normal cinema-length movie. While tapes big enough for that were released later on we all know the chicken and egg problem of userbase and third party support. The Betamax format failed to support normal movies properly, I don't think the lack of porn support did more damage.

In this case we're seeing all but one major movie company going with Blu-Ray unless they jumped ship lately.

JonLeung · « **Reply #1223 on:** January 05, 2007, 08:28:06 AM »

Ironically, my dad "hid" his porn by having it mostly on Betamax tapes and the only Beta player was in his room.

>_>
<_<

Therefore I have irreversibly associated Betamax with porn, even if history shows that VHS was hornier than Betamax.

Kairon · « **Reply #1224 on:** January 05, 2007, 09:09:19 AM »

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Silly analysts. The only reason to believe MS will win is because of it's headstart, but if you dig a little deeper, you can see the head start has been squandered. Wii is keeping up pace with 360 sales even with shortages, 360 failed to outsell PS2 for practically all of 2006, and worst of all 360 failed to outdo the original Xbox's first year sales - even with no next-gen competition!

So what you're essentially saying is that:
Xbox 360 isn't selling any faster than the Wii. (They aren't beating Nintendo's "underpowered" console.)
Xbox 360 couldn't beat the PS2's sales in 2006. (They couldn't beat Sony's last-gen console.)
Xbox 360 couldn't beat the Xbox's sales in 2001. (They couldn't beat their own last-gen console.)

So, they can't beat anyone's weaker console. That's pretty sad - and the analysts think Microsoft will come out on top?

I think analysts are anticipating a much closer race than before, and something more aking to a three-way tie. PS3 will explode out the gates once MGS4 and FF XIII hit, no doubt about it. MS will surge once they drop price and Halo 3 comes out, you can count on that. The Wii is already looking to be strong... With all three systems looking viable, you don't have to be last gen's PS2 to win, you just have to not be last gen's GC or XBox.

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