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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #600 on: October 18, 2006, 11:07:14 AM »
Kaz recently had an interview with Next Gen - here are some excerpts..
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Kaz Hirai: For day one, we are going to have a total 400,000 units for the launch period only for North America, and we expect to have about  one million units by the end of the calendar year. These are some pretty aggressive numbers.
Aggresive, eh?
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What we don’t do however is have a brand name for the network service, you know, like PlayStation Online or PlayStation Live, and this is because we don’t we don’t see a “PlayStation offline”.

What I’m trying to say is that it doesn't matter if you are enjoying content from a Blu-ray disc or you are enjoying content you just downloaded from the network, at the end of the day it’s all PlayStation 3 so we don’t differentiate between content, and I think that makes a clear point between us and some of our competitors, who like to differentiate how the consumers get the content, that’s the difference in the strategy or the basic philosophy towards the online service.
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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #601 on: October 18, 2006, 11:16:32 AM »
That is a bold new strategy by Sony for PS3, not to diffentiate between online and not online. They will easily win this generation with such an important strategy.
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #602 on: October 18, 2006, 11:20:36 AM »
I don't know exactly what is up with the 4min loading for Smackdown but for anyone who has played day of wreckoning 2 knows how retarded yukes is with its loading.  In DOW2, by default the game loads up the wrestlers entrances first then the actual gameplay afterwards, making 2 load screens before you can actually play.

Then again i still think the worst game I've played in terms of loading is Fable on Xbox.  Great game but the loading was half the game.  It reminded me of Half Life 2 where it loaded every other section of the level.  Fable however loaded everytime u left a town, entered a different section of a town, and it had some stupid autosave function that had a saving screen & had to load the game again after it saved.

Seriously I think if a game is gonna make us wait 5min to load they should let us play a mini game while it loads, like say a generic version of tetris or asteroids.....

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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #603 on: October 18, 2006, 11:29:32 AM »
Here's what Kaz meant to say.
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What we don’t do however is have a brand name for the network service, you know, like PLAYSTATION ONLINE or PLAYSTATION LIVE, and this is because we don’t we don’t see a “PLAYSTATION OFFLINE”.

What I’m trying to say is that it doesn't matter if you are enjoying content from a Blu-ray disc or you are enjoying content you just downloaded from the network, at the end of the day it’s all PLAYSTATION 3....
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #604 on: October 18, 2006, 12:04:42 PM »
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« Reply #605 on: October 18, 2006, 03:13:20 PM »
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #606 on: October 18, 2006, 04:46:03 PM »
http://gaming-edge.blogspot.com/2006/10/sony-clarifies-some-ps3-controller-talk.html

controllers without replacable batteries.  Sound like a winning plan to me!
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #607 on: October 18, 2006, 05:30:05 PM »
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But talking about online gameplay one of the most important things for example is that Resistance: Fall of Man will support 40 players online  as well as video chat, text chat, voice chat, rankings for games, downloading additional content for your games like levels, weapons or characters depending on the game and their online capabilities.

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I read that and the immediate thought was, "Confirmed. PS3 Online made for Resistance: Fall of Man only.  All other will have to hack it."

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On the above article.  Exploding batteries and having to pair with a USB cable instead of sync buttons... Yeah...
I can see the Why on that one but it doesn't make it stink any less.
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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #608 on: October 18, 2006, 06:10:30 PM »
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On the above article.  Exploding batteries and having to pair with a USB cable instead of sync buttons... Yeah...
I can see the Why on that one but it doesn't make it stink any less.


Yeah, that same quote from the article caught my eye the most:

"According to the report, the controller will have to be paired to the console via the USB cable before play. This pairing process will be required each time the console has been shut down and turned back on, or - given the rough translation - possibly every time the controller has lost power."

That's much worse than the battery issue to me, and sounds like it could be a real pain in the ass over time.
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #609 on: October 18, 2006, 09:33:44 PM »
Forget about over time.  Can't you turn on the 360 with a Wireless controller?  Isn't the Wii suppose to have the functionality too... I mean I might as well just keep them corded... Oh wait, is there enough USB ports to do that?  That will get annoying really quick considering all other wireless controller technology doesn't make you do that.
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« Reply #610 on: October 18, 2006, 10:47:58 PM »
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Forget about over time.  Can't you turn on the 360 with a Wireless controller?  Isn't the Wii suppose to have the functionality too... I mean I might as well just keep them corded... Oh wait, is there enough USB ports to do that?  That will get annoying really quick considering all other wireless controller technology doesn't make you do that.


Yeah 360 lets you turn it on with the controller wirelessly, which is a great feature. I wonder what Sony's reason is for having such a goofy setup? Makes me think more and more they let the functionality and quality of the PS3 go by the wayside in order to try and perfect the blu-ray player.
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #611 on: October 19, 2006, 05:25:18 AM »
At least if the Controller is any indication of the whole consoles quality.  The more I hear about that controller the less I like it.  I just keep hearing bad news.  Come on Sony your using the same basic controller and you can't improve on it...
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #612 on: October 19, 2006, 05:43:48 AM »
Controllers without replacement batteries...didn't Nintendo do that with the Gameboy Micro...and the DS can replace the battery, but you can't buy a battery in the stores.

Sony is doing things odd.  Technically they actually upgraded their controllers more than Microsoft did.  Microsoft just designed a great ergonamic modern controller.  Sony sorta made an attempt to make a new control system...but only Nintendo has designed a completely new control style and system for games.

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« Reply #613 on: October 19, 2006, 05:49:44 AM »
Yeah.  But MS made a controller that from all accounts is ergonomic, the Wireless works, and I haven't heard any real complaints about.
Yeah, Nintendo did that with the DS, SP, DSLite, and Micro.  *shrug* Its not a bad choice to go with an internal battery.  Now the USB thing is whats getting my miffed.  All the Viable wireless controllers that have come out hasn't needed to be connected to there machine at any point.  It just doesn't sound good but I'll reserve giving a critical critical opinion till I get to use it.
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #614 on: October 19, 2006, 09:24:59 AM »
I guess...I have been finding it really easy for us to jump and complain about companies and products we don't like when we really don't have a legit complaint...yet.

I am not a big fan of the PS2 controller, and I could be less of fan of the PS3 controller, but I dunno yet.


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RE:Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #615 on: October 19, 2006, 10:00:57 AM »
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Controllers without replacement batteries...didn't Nintendo do that with the Gameboy Micro....
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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #616 on: October 19, 2006, 10:49:58 AM »
What Kaz meant to say was "We don't have a brand name for online because a Playstation 3 won't work offline".

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« Reply #617 on: October 19, 2006, 11:06:13 AM »
Kaz is making me have the internet to play my games.... Ahhhh.....
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« Reply #618 on: October 19, 2006, 01:16:30 PM »
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What Kaz meant to say was "We don't have a brand name for online because a Playstation 3 won't work offline".


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RE: Sony getting hit Hard lately
« Reply #619 on: October 19, 2006, 01:55:53 PM »
Well everything about the PS3's launch has now been revealed.

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Oh, I love how Sony's is charging 50 bucks for there half-assed controller.  For all the people that complained about the Wiimote costing $60, what do you people feel about Sony doing this?
 
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« Reply #620 on: October 19, 2006, 02:18:49 PM »
Well its the same price as the wireless Xbox 360 controllers.

It looks like Xbox and PS3 will get money back from system losses from their controller costs.

Too bad.

As for Nintendo, you may think they are getting too large of a profit on the controllers, but you know...it really isn't that bad.  

Oops EDIT  I was wrong about Xbox 360 controller prices.  Sue me.  Will not change...so that everyone can laugh at my errors.


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« Reply #621 on: October 19, 2006, 02:32:55 PM »
Speaking of battery replacement, do you guys remember before DS (or maybe it was GBA SP?) came out how people were freaking that you couldn't replace the battery that you needed a special screwdriver and that you would probaly have to send it into NIntendo?

Wow PS3's launch lineup looks terribly generic, most of the games are ports and/or sports games. The only "unique" exclusive games I see are Untold Legends, Resistance and Genji.
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« Reply #622 on: October 19, 2006, 02:36:14 PM »
BTW Spak is that an error? The wirelss Xbox 360 controllers (at least first party) do cost 50$.
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« Reply #623 on: October 19, 2006, 03:21:09 PM »
The controller price isn't a big deal, everyone has high controller prices this gen.

BUT...

The $59.99 first party game prices?

The downloadable first party title tagged at less than $15?

The 30-hour maximum battery life?

Those are the niggling details that caught my eye. But seriously, overall, nothing more, nothing less than was expected.

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« Reply #624 on: October 19, 2006, 06:05:11 PM »
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The controller price isn't a big deal, everyone has high controller prices this gen.

BUT...

The $59.99 first party game prices?

The downloadable first party title tagged at less than $15?

The 30-hour maximum battery life?

Those are the niggling details that caught my eye. But seriously, overall, nothing more, nothing less than was expected.

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Yeah the 59.99 was weird because I could have sworn they said first party games would be 49.99!
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