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Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« on: February 27, 2006, 09:25:19 PM »
Marketing director Mathieu Minel has been interviewed by French gaming site Jeux-France, and was questioned specifically about whether Twilight Princess would include Revolution controls - quite the ongoing saga of late in the world of Nintendo.

Jeux-France: "Will the next Zelda, still scheduled for Gamecube be, also playable on the future Nintendo Revolution and the exclusive functionalities of its controller? Will the game be released this Spring?"

Mathieu Minel: "I just know that Nintendo will release either a special edition of Twilight Princess for Nintendo Revolution's controller new functionalities or include these functionalities directly into the original sourcecode, thanks to the compatibility between the two systems. But actually we still don't know which option will be chosen. We don't have any releasedate as well, but we're already working on all the marketing aspects of Twilight Princess so I think the game will be out soon, even if the exact date is yet unknown. It all depends on the compatibility with the Revolution and a lot of others things. You know, this game will be a full set of surprises, especially with a new and violent battle system but I can't tell anymore."



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RE: Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2006, 09:31:42 PM »
Sounds to me like he's just taking a guess, the "new and violent battle system" though is interesting.

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RE: Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2006, 10:23:44 PM »
Well given light on what Reggie just recently said and what this guy is saying. It means if it is true they are leaning towards making two different versions.. You know it is this whole mess that probally made the release date slip. Well I guess we will have to wait until the period between GDC and E3 to get a better picture of what Nintendo plans to do.
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RE: Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2006, 11:03:32 PM »
A rev-only special edition in addition to the gamecube one would be interesting.

Wait, did I say interesting? Sorry, I meant annoying.
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RE:Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2006, 01:14:29 AM »
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A rev-only special edition in addition to the gamecube one would be interesting.

Wait, did I say interesting? Sorry, I meant annoying.


Id say its more milking the franchise.  It should be an all or nothing.  Either have the revolution funcitionality in it or dont.
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RE:Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2006, 01:29:42 AM »
If it's on GC, which it is, there is no way it can have Rev-functionality added. So if it is to have Rev-functionality there will need to be a seperate version made for the Rev. Which I would hate and think is a stupid desicion on Nintendo's part.
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« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2006, 01:37:15 AM »
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If it's on GC, which it is, there is no way it can have Rev-functionality added.


Yes it can.

For example if you have ever programmed using the Direct3D libraries you will know that you can do tests on the hardware of the pc the code is running on.  So if a feature of whatever you have programmed is not supported then the code wont run.

It would be the same with the gamecube and rev.  The game will know what system your playing it on and if its the gamecube then the Rev code wont run, but if you play it on the Rev the code can be executed...simple.

Having two versions of the same game will only add to consumer confusion.  It would be best to only have one version.

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« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 02:12:51 AM »
I thought only GC controllers can be used when playing a GC game.
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« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 02:40:58 AM »
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I thought only GC controllers can be used when playing a GC game.


Good lord people.  That comment was made with the direction towards OLD gamecube games that are now backwards compatible.  They weren't designed for the revmote.

It doesn't say that a gamecube game couldn't be created with revmote support in the future.

What purpose would the revmote serve in mario sunshine? Nothing, so it's not used.

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RE:Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 03:01:15 AM »
imagine how annoying that would be, buying zelda for gamecube then being able to buy it a month later with better graphics and added gameplay using the remote
OMG, thats so milking
they shouldnt do that, having better graphics and added gameplay isnt what consumers wants
they want old skool graphics and lazy gameplay, that would sell millions, like 4swords adventures did

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« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 03:11:15 AM »
To make it all the more interesting, here's a link...

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As rude as I see NGC's gesture towards Nintendo, you can't deny that they WERE told something big by Nintendo themselves. They wouldn't go through all this trouble, and instead have a wait and see approach.

Two versions would severely piss me off. If it has to be two versions, then have both in the same case.

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RE:Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #11 on: February 28, 2006, 04:14:37 AM »
I wonder if they're planning on doing a Twilight Princess master quest type of deal. That would be better than releasing the same game twice, why would anyone buy the gc version who's planning to get a rev, unless of course they don't tell us there are two versions. and "surprise" (aka, piss us the f**k off) with a tp rev launch game that's exactly the same as the gc. sad part is i'd probably still buy it.  
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RE:Nintendo France confirms Rev controls for Zelda
« Reply #12 on: February 28, 2006, 05:01:22 AM »
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Sounds to me like he's just taking a guess, the "new and violent battle system" though is interesting.


I hope by interesting you mean "f*king disgusting"

I can deal with useless rev features, but I dont like the sound of "violent fights" one little bit, WTF is happening with this game Nintendo!?

 
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« Reply #13 on: February 28, 2006, 05:14:33 AM »
Well I took it as meaning more complex and badass attacks, rather than blood flying everywhere and heads being chopped off.

Seriously, I don't know why Nintendo can't speak up about what's going on with the game. If GDC goes by and we still haven't heard anything... i'll.... i'll post a message on the internet about it!

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« Reply #14 on: February 28, 2006, 05:27:31 AM »
I take it as a poor translation...Though Link's attacks DO seem a bit more brutal (as with his finisher), it's not TOO over-the-top...
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« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2006, 06:33:24 AM »
I can see the future: Ian isn't going to like this.


I will defer my opinion until more hard evidence arrives.

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« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2006, 06:39:09 AM »
I question even if this guy knows what he is talking about.  The translation I read, made it seem as he was still just speculating.  Perhaps he knows something perhaps he doesn't.


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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2006, 06:42:00 AM »
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I can deal with useless rev features, but I dont like the sound of "violent fights" one little bit, WTF is happening with this game Nintendo!?


When have the swordfights ever not been violent?

I've seen videos of recent gameplay: Link isn't hacking off limbs or anything.
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2006, 06:53:41 AM »
Theres no such thing as recent gameplay videos, the most recent thing we've seen in motion is last E3 stuff.

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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2006, 07:03:07 AM »
Did they show jousting at the last E3?

In any case, this is a translated interview. The word "violent" could easily be poor translation.
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« Reply #20 on: February 28, 2006, 07:11:19 AM »
I could by Pokemon Ruby and then the updated Pokemon Emerald and not give it a second thought. Mainly because the newer version doesn't make the older one completely obsolete, and it benefits me greatly. But a double version of something like this just wouldn't go down well with most fans. Especialy if they are released just a few monthes apart. Now what if Nintendo decided not only to up the game with rev-functionality but improved graphics as well on a seperate disk that came with the original game? Something like that I wouldn't mind one bit. But if they released 2 versions of the game at full price I would be quite angry.

Now about this new violent fighting system I don't think it will be so bad. At the end of OoT and WW, Link attacked in a way that was pretty brutal but even that wasn't so much of a big deal. Mainly because there was no blood in WW and... well it was the blood in the origonal Oot and that made it kind of gruesome, kind of.  Either way I expect to see more finishers like that with mini and big bosses. After seeing Link in Soul Calibur, I can't really think of much that would be over the top. As long as blood isn't spilling from enemies excessivly, and Link doesn't go around removing heads from the more fleshy enemies it will be fine.  Any type of skeleton or plant monster is one thing to decapitate, and we have all seen it befor, but a Moblin? No no no...
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« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2006, 07:22:39 AM »
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Did they show jousting at the last E3?

In any case, this is a translated interview. The word "violent" could easily be poor translation.


It was part of the demo.


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« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2006, 07:49:22 AM »
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I don't even like the idea of having special features in the Cube game that are unreachable without a Rev but that's still better than having two versions of the game.  At least with one version I can buy the Cube version, enjoy it, and then later on when I get a Rev play through it again.  I would rather get the whole game in one go but at least then I could access that content at a later date.  With two versions that's not an option.  If I buy the Cube version I get the lesser game no matter what.  If I want the "real" version I have to pay more money.

I hate double dipping with DVDs and I am totally against that trend with games.  If they do this I won't buy the special edition just out of protest.  I've made do without Four Swords because I didn't want to buy A Link to the Past again so I'll do the same here.  I just think it's so, well, CRUEL for Nintendo to jerk the fans around like this.  This is the most anticipated Cube game and it's bad enough that we've had it delayed but to not even get the best version?  I don't like being exploited like that.

Plus I don't think it would good for the Rev anyway.  You just know that the press would rip into this.  There would be all sorts of negative comments about how the best Rev game is a port of a Cube game.  Considering Nintendo is trying to push innovation the last thing they should do is blatant rehashing.  Remember the backlash with initial DS reviews?  It would be much worse for the Rev and much more damaging.

As for this violent battle stuff, geez Nintendo we just didn't want Zelda to be a cartoon.  You don't have to go all "Warrior Within" on us.  Look at Majora's Mask.  That's what we want when we say we want a "mature Zelda".

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« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2006, 07:52:09 AM »
Like I said, translated, and I don't think it's something I'd worry about. How "violent" could a LoZ game possibly become? I think the epitome of violence in a LoZ game would be the finishing hit on the last boss of Wind Waker. TP will not have an M rating. We KNOW this. Therefore, I wouldn't think twice about it.

As for the subject of two versions, it's a terrible idea. You'll piss off so many cube owners by doing that if they decide to get a Rev.

The whole point of having Rev-only content on the Zelda disc is that it will encourage people who only have a cube to by the Rev later on for the content. It'll be one more reason to pick one up.
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« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2006, 09:07:41 AM »
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As for this violent battle stuff, geez Nintendo we just didn't want Zelda to be a cartoon. You don't have to go all "Warrior Within" on us. Look at Majora's Mask. That's what we want when we say we want a "mature Zelda".
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