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RE: The Official IWATATON Speech Thread
« Reply #325 on: September 15, 2005, 06:02:50 PM »
this would be great for Pikmin :-D

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« Reply #326 on: September 15, 2005, 06:03:10 PM »
I was really excited until I saw the controller, I honestly dislike it.
It pretty much kills the ability to port games to the Rev.

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« Reply #327 on: September 15, 2005, 06:03:36 PM »
Please don't forget that you can still use the WAVEBIRD for ports of 360 and PS3 games.

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« Reply #328 on: September 15, 2005, 06:04:00 PM »
Maybe attachments to play the other games?

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« Reply #329 on: September 15, 2005, 06:05:22 PM »
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Please don't forget that you can still use the WAVEBIRD for ports of 360 and PS3 games.

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That's handy you need 8 controllers instead of 4.

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« Reply #330 on: September 15, 2005, 06:05:43 PM »
Is there a way of connecting the two attachments so it is stable while playing?
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« Reply #331 on: September 15, 2005, 06:06:40 PM »
Also, if you thought losing a remote was bad...

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« Reply #332 on: September 15, 2005, 06:07:31 PM »
WHO was the person who said "Miyamoto called it the big gun and that's usually a prediction" ????

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« Reply #333 on: September 15, 2005, 06:07:47 PM »
I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO THINK! SOMEBODY TAKE AWAY MY FREE WILL!
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« Reply #334 on: September 15, 2005, 06:08:28 PM »
at 1st look it's odd but air holding it's no diffent than holding a remote and jacking off at the same time
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« Reply #335 on: September 15, 2005, 06:11:04 PM »
I'm still phased because of it, I'm trying to read the article on 1UP but I'm too excited and curious and clueless that I can't control myself

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« Reply #336 on: September 15, 2005, 06:13:50 PM »
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I'm still phased because of it, I'm trying to read the article on 1UP but I'm too excited and curious and clueless that I can't control myself


LOL same for me, but every impression Ive read said its awesome, we shouldve known this, the Rev controller wasnt going to make people say "it rocks!" or " it sucks" but more like "WTF!!??"

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« Reply #337 on: September 15, 2005, 06:14:24 PM »
So when do IGN and Gamespot finally get a friggin' Revolution section?
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« Reply #338 on: September 15, 2005, 06:14:38 PM »
Man... there's so much stuff to take in!

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« Reply #339 on: September 15, 2005, 06:14:39 PM »
Whoever is doubting the controller's ability to play traditional games (I'm waiting for Ian to run on to bitch), Ninty retooled METROID PRIME 2 to work with the Revolution controller and they didn't take out ANYTHING...
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« Reply #340 on: September 15, 2005, 06:15:37 PM »
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So when do IGN and Gamespot finally get a friggin' Revolution section?


When games are confirmed the Revolution, would be my guess.
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« Reply #341 on: September 15, 2005, 06:16:22 PM »
I still don't know what to think. It looks like you only have easy access to 2 buttons at a time, whether you hold it vertically or horizontally...  
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« Reply #342 on: September 15, 2005, 06:16:37 PM »
So...Is "Revolution" now the system's official name or is still being touted as only a code-name?
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« Reply #343 on: September 15, 2005, 06:17:01 PM »
I think the thing will be awesome from what I read.  The only thing I don't like is the look, but it sounds like once you use it that's the last thing you'll think about.


Perhaps tho they make the remote part look a bit more kewl.

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« Reply #344 on: September 15, 2005, 06:17:07 PM »
Well that's certainly interesting.  I don't think anyone though of this.  Not like a TV remote anyway.

I have to try it out.  It looks like it would take some time to get used to but it might work.

There are a few big issues though:

1. A TV remote is not really designed for quick button pushes or at least not like that required for a game.  Imagine playing a really intense game on your TV remote.  Something like a fighter or a shmup would be pretty hard.  This is PERFECT for RPGs though.  I can see why Square Enix loves it.

2. Ports.  This looks too different for us to get many ports.  We might get an N64 scenario where the Nintendo console and the other consoles get totally different games and the Nintendo console gets less.

3. How do I use the d-pad and the buttons at the same time?  This is even WORSE than the Cube design for d-pad control.

4. Ergonomics.  I showed to this to my Mom, the target demographic, and she feels the Cube controller is less intimidating because the buttons are right where you want them.  Here you have to slide your hand up and down to reach certain buttons.  How many of you can press every button on your TV remote by feel?  I can do the numbers and the volume but for the lower down stuff I have to look.

5. Attachments mean non-standard controller.  In other words the "no game supports this because not everyone has it" routine is going to be worse.

6. My Mom isn't interested and I think it looks more intimidating.  If non-gamers don't like it and real gamers have to adjust to it then it's a complete failure.

7. "Thinking about packing Revolution with the main controller and attachment, Iwata says."  What?  Not packing a controller is actually a consideration.  That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

What I like about it at first glance:

1. Creative and innovative as hell.  Nintendo is clearly thinking out of the box with this one.  Their logic that everyone uses a TV remote is not bad in theory, I just think it's flawed.  But it's a plan at least.  It doesn't look they promised innovation and then went "sh!t.  What do we do."  It looks calculated.

2. I can see most games working on this, it will just take some practice.  Most Nintendo games anyway.

3. The mouse movement isn't a bad idea in theory (I'm saying "theory" a lot here).  I don't want games where I wave my arms the whole damn time but it has some potential if used correctly.

4. I don't see it scaring away all third parties.  I don't see it attracting tons of stuff either but the "no third party support" scenario I feared isn't going to happen.  RPGs are going to be REALLY popular on the Rev.

My overall opinion is that it's way better than I thought but it's still a little too weird.  I fear non-gamers are not going to give a sh!t and Nintendo will have fixed what wasn't broken for real gamers for nothing.  This looks MORE hardcore than any controller I've ever seen.  It will likely have the exact opposite effect that Nintendo was aiming for.  I don't see Nintendo going broke over it though.  I also don't see myself rushing out to buy it though I do want to try it, if that makes sense.

Now let's see the games.

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RE:The Official IWATATON Speech Thread
« Reply #345 on: September 15, 2005, 06:17:13 PM »
About MP2 - yea, but they must have put a LOT of effort into making it work on the Rev controller. 3rd parties aren't going to do that easily.

And how do you know it feels as intuitive as MP2 on the Cube?
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« Reply #346 on: September 15, 2005, 06:17:23 PM »
One big freakin' "WTF?", I bet SONY and MICROSOFT right now are puzzled too. I really don't think Sony will ever copy such device, or Microsoft for that matter. I wonder what made Nintendo to think like that?! Oh btw, I don't think there will be 3rd party Rev controllers, very much unlikely.

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« Reply #347 on: September 15, 2005, 06:17:33 PM »
Yeah, why are the other A and B buttons down there, out of reach? That's irritating. Especially for something like N64, which had six face buttons... -_-

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« Reply #348 on: September 15, 2005, 06:18:16 PM »

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« Reply #349 on: September 15, 2005, 06:18:43 PM »
*Role-playing Ian*: What about Street Fighter II?  I'd like to see them retool that with this controller.

Edit: Never mind, the real Ian is here!  And surprisingly optimistic.  Cool.
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