Author Topic: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized (Read 394870 times)

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1050 on:** August 26, 2007, 08:59:45 PM »

With as much of a deal you are making out this "one stupid element," (which also happened to keep you from completing a game) it seems so, yes...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1051 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:00:46 PM »

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With as much of a deal you are making out this "one stupid element," (which also happened to keep you from completing a game) it seems so, yes...

Guess what? I loved Battletoads, yet I never beat the game, does that mean I shouldn't like it? Funny though I didn't make a huge deal out of it, it was your smart alik comment that made it a big deal, because heaven forbid someone disliked a design choice for Prime 1.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #1052 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:03:11 PM »

So did you not beat it because of a specific gameplay element or just because the game was too hard? A game can be too hard yet you can enjoy the gameplay elements it employs...

"Funny though I didn't make a huge deal out of it, it was your smart alik comment that made it a big deal, because heaven forbid someone disliked a design choice for Prime 1."

It's bloody implied by you not finishing the first game because of it... =|

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1053 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:05:25 PM »

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So did you not beat it because of a specific gameplay element or just because the game was too hard? A game can be too hard yet you can enjoy the gameplay elements it employs...

And guess what, I enjoyed the gameplay elements Metroid Prime 1 had, but I refused to go back through the world and find pointless artifacts to open the way to Ridley. I didn't have the time nor the patience, I'm surprised I even completed the Wind Waker treasure hunt.

I hate to break it to you but good design can also complement exploration. Like I said previous Metroids showed this, you explored your world but at the same time it didn't let you get too far without getting something. Games that leave open the possibility of having to do a big scavenger hunt at the game is lazy and FORCED exploration over the whole world. Metroid Prime had a huge world, and I wasn't about to go through it all over again to find stupid artifacts. Heck I think I had 5 or 6 of those artifacts to find, and I had no idea where to start looking, so that combined with a thing called "a life" I gave up but still hold MP1 in high regard despite that one crappy design choice that appears to have been remedied in MP3 (Not sure about MP2, I know it had backtracking but not sure if you had to go find items you missed towards the end of the game).

Mario · « **Reply #1054 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:07:48 PM »

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Bill is the one that insulted me, what is with you guys and your insults?

Yeah I was telling him to lay off. I don't consider being a female and having feminine traits an insult either, perhaps unless you're Samus. Finally, you cant quote a 95% review and only comment on the negative things, and then call someone else a whiner. Dont throw stones from a glass house, unless you're trapped in it and need to get out.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1055 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:11:19 PM »

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Bill is the one that insulted me, what is with you guys and your insults?

Yeah I was telling him to lay off. I don't consider being a female and having feminine traits an insult either, perhaps unless you're Samus. Finally, you cant quote a 95% review and only comment on the negative things, and then call someone else a whiner. Dont throw stones from a glass house, unless you're trapped in it and need to get out.

I can quote it if I find it somewhat unnerving, it is a concern, that is not whining. You want to see whining, just look how you guys have freaked because someone didn't like the scavenger hunt in Metroid Prime 1, it was very unMetroid like and hurt my experience with it, so isn't it justified to be concerned about something similar happening in 3?

The way I see it, Metroid Prime 1 was virtually flawless and the game was not about this one aspect of it, there was so much more that made the game great and unique, the scavenger hunt at the end was unnecessary. Just like I found the scavenger hunt in Wind Waker to be terrible, but on the flip side the game was not about the scavenger hunt and didn't need that either. Metroid Prime had TONS of fun exploring without the need for finding artifacts, so I don't consider it an integral part of the Metroid Prime formula or really the Metroid formula in general. If anything they should have been optional, heck I consider the best exploration games to be ones where exploring is not only a part of the game but also has some optional, yet rewarding reasons to explore, that is what the artifacts should have fell under.

In regards to Metroid Prime 3, I have become hyped for the game because it seemed like it was doing everything right, not to mention it seems to be the ultimate homage to the original games. It seemed like Retro has been putting their heart and soul in the game, I just hope the scavenger quest is minor and not like a triforce or artifact hunt. Loading isn't a huge deal, but I have never been a huge fan of it (especially loading between areas!). I guess in a way I singled those two things out because I wanted the game to be flawless, so perhaps I am overreacting but it is because I want the game to be great, GOTY material, something that will put Halo 3 and Bioshock to shame.

Kairon · « **Reply #1056 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:24:36 PM »

Shan't we postpone this arguement until after we all have the game in our Wiis and have reached this supposed fetch quest?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1057 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:26:32 PM »

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Shan't we postpone this arguement until after we all have the game in our Wiis and have reached this supposed fetch quest?

Yeah but I can't talk about it, because I didn't beat MP1 or 2.

Kairon · « **Reply #1058 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:29:08 PM »

Hey, what do ya know! Neither did I!

Either way, I'd rather think a meltdown at 1am in the morning over the importance of the words "fetch quest" to Metroid fandom is a good use of our time. Let's get back to derailing Smash Bros. threads, I say!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1059 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:33:12 PM »

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Hey, what do ya know! Neither did I!

Either way, I'd rather think a meltdown at 1am in the morning over the importance of the words "fetch quest" to Metroid fandom is a good use of our time. Let's get back to derailing Smash Bros. threads, I say!

I want to talk about Ian though.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1060 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:35:51 PM »

1up has their review up

It got a 9/10 from them, which I guess is pretty good for a supposed anti-Wii site. They complain about the fetch quest, controls (Huh?), and some repetitive environments.

Kairon · « **Reply #1061 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:38:28 PM »

You know how in Bioshock the entire game revolves around Adam? They wanted to say Ian at first, but evidently Windyman owned the rights to the Ian name and refused to sell it to them because they were Metroid fans who complained about backtracking.

Kairon · « **Reply #1062 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:42:39 PM »

Shacknews has a review up to which is glowingly positive, and contains only spoiler, which they actually hint at, but that's enough for me to be

So with 1up giving the game a 9.0... I say that Gamespot will be the site to 8.5 it!

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1063 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:43:41 PM »

The sad thing is that the trend is indicating that there is no chance whatsoever MP3 will be considered for GOTY (But hey at least my opinion on NP's bias is being proven true!).

Kairon · « **Reply #1064 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:46:18 PM »

Hmm... I think hardcore gaming media will have a really difficult time even CONTEMPLATING giving a game of the year award to the little-console-that-could, the wii.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1065 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:48:15 PM »

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Hmm... I think hardcore gaming media will have a really difficult time even CONTEMPLATING giving a game of the year award to the little-console-that-could, the wii.

Mario Galaxy better get game of the year or I will personally be VERY upset. Heck I'd even settle for Smash Brothers Brawl.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1066 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:51:50 PM »

Nooooo, I just read that Kraid won't be in the game. Dang you Retro, I wanted to see him in 3D!

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #1067 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:52:02 PM »

Secure your wriststrap tightly and give yourself a 3-ft radius of space. You're going to be upset.

Kairon · « **Reply #1068 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:52:34 PM »

Yeah... I'm saving my "this is an outrage!" energy for when mainstream gaming publications snub Mario. That's why I'm mellow right now over Metroid... I'm saving it all for an italian plumber who wears a red hat.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #1069 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:56:15 PM »

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Yeah... I'm saving my "this is an outrage!" energy for when mainstream gaming publications snub Mario. That's why I'm mellow right now over Metroid... I'm saving it all for an italian plumber who wears a red hat.

Well Metroid Prime 3 doesn't deserve GOTY anymore without Kraid . I'm sorry but bring back Mother Brain isn't good enough Retro!

Kairon · « **Reply #1070 on:** August 26, 2007, 09:56:37 PM »

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Nooooo, I just read that Kraid won't be in the game. Dang you Retro, I wanted to see him in 3D!

Why? Why oh why did I read that spoiler? Why?

Edit: I'm not even going to... stop it GP! Stop writing spoilers!!! /cry

Luigi Dude · « **Reply #1071 on:** August 26, 2007, 10:17:00 PM »

Gametrailers gives Metroid Prime 3 a 9.6

Warning spoilers in this one. An interesting thing to note is this reviewer says the games a near religious experience and that it's easily superior to the first.

Kairon · « **Reply #1072 on:** August 26, 2007, 10:25:02 PM »

Ah, that explains it. Games aren't art. They're religion.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #1073 on:** August 26, 2007, 10:41:30 PM »

An interesting article at IGN points out a scanned panel that reads "Experiment status report update: Metroid project 'Dread' is nearing the final stages of completion." They come to the logical conclusion that this either means the rumored Metroid: Dread, a 2-D Metroid for the DS, is actually coming, or Retro is screwing with us. Either way, this is awesome (though obviously more so if the former is true).

Mashiro · « **Reply #1074 on:** August 27, 2007, 12:36:37 AM »

Freaking awesome news all around . . . aside from Kraid whom I didn't think would be in the game anyway.

Can't wait to pick this title up later today!

You won't see me on the forums that much

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Author Topic: Metroid Prime 3 Revolutionized (Read 394870 times)