Topic: Sony's new strategy starting in September

[Toruresu]

I'm sorry to bring this back. Has anyone else heard anything new about this 'new strategy'? Anyone else have local reports of Sony employees being fired?

[Hostile Creation]

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KDR do you have to point out every bit of idiocy in every one of my post? do you?

Yes because I get my paycheck for that.

I hope they're paying you a lot, KDR.

[stevey]

" I'm sorry to bring this back. Has anyone else heard anything new about this 'new strategy'? Anyone else have local reports of Sony employees being fired?"

well I heard sony got rid of the wifi router from the ps3 and on the same day evey big suit at sony got more pay, dont know if it was posted before.

[Toruresu]

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well I heard sony got rid of the wifi router from the ps3 and on the same day evey big suit at sony got more pay, dont know if it was posted before.

Link? Cutting features on the PS3 to raise the pay on the big guys is funny.

[vudu]

Don't believe stevey.  He lies.  About everything.

Watch.  He'll lie about lying.  Don't believe him--it's a lie.  I'll bet you a dollar.

[stevey]

I'll take you on that bet (I'll get the link in a few min, god I have alot of f*ckin retarded links) Router functions were dropped from PS3 spec sony executives get promotions on same day.  

[vudu]

There's a difference between a promotion and a raise just for the Hell of it.

[denjet78]

I heard once that during the PS2s hayday, way back when Sony was taking a HUGE beating and their stock was devalued by about 50% because of how much they were eating per unit sold, they almost cut the games division right then and there. Anyone believing that they're not willing to consider it again if they start loosing tons of cash is dillusional.

Just like MS, you can only loose so much before you have to be accountable to your stockholders, and if you don't do what they say, well... they sell, and you go under.

[KDR_11k]

Anyone believing that they're not willing to consider it again if they start loosing tons of cash is dillusional.

We're not doubting that they'd cut them if they were bleeding money, we're doubting that they'll lose tons of money anytime soon.

[Renny]

The PlayStation brand is riding the high that their electronics once did. I'm sure they're capable of messing that up, but who knows when. Worst case scenario for them this generation would be an average performance.

[Toruresu]

Hey guys;

Today I was reading the local newspaper, when BANG, I found this. I did the translation, sorry if there are errors.

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10,000 laid off in Sony

Tokyo - Sony Corp announced their first loss in more than ten years, and precised that they would eliminate 10,000 positions after loosing leadership in music players and TVs due to competitors like Apple Computers Inc. and Sharp Corp. and the downgrade of their stock.
The second worldwide maker of electronics said that it would cut its labor (people) by 6.6% by March 2008 and close down eleven plants, said Howard Stringer, CEO, in a press conference in Tokyo, where he predicted a loss of $90 million, which changes the sales forecast set last july. (Bloomberg)

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This is really big, but at the same time, it isn't. If it's by 2008, would this affect their games division? How many of those 10,000 would be from SCE? Can anyone track the original article from Bloomberg?

With rumors of PS3 launching in 2007 if the Xbox 360 doesn't sell well, is it possible they are not just watching the market, but also their pockets and how much of a loss they can take with PS3?

[KDR_11k]

Why would they lay off people in one of their most profitable divisions? Except that idiot Kutaragi, I mean?

[Toruresu]

Because of a $90 million loss? I think that they will cut from everywhere.

[BigJim]

I read that many of the non-profitable divisions are being sold off, closed, or reduced. The gaming group is staying intact since it's profitable and has also become a staple of sorts for Sony. They could still see job cuts, but nothing that would throw off PS3. They have a huge stake in the success of Blu-ray and the Cell (oh yeah, and games).  They're not going to screw that one up.

[Toruresu]

That's what I figured BigJim, but still, how much of a loss can Sony receive with just PS3 hardware? That loss will definately affect them, either in taking the hit themselves, or having PS3 at $500+

[BigJim]

No doubt. If I were creatively juggling their money, I would consider not only games but also Blu-Ray and memory stick revenues as subsidizing the cost. Makes the picture look a little better. Heh.  But unless something bad happens to PS3, by 2008 it'll probably be fine.

[KDR_11k]

Most of the cost for the PS3 is R&D and it's spent already. Pulling out now would mean having thrown billions at research for nothing.

[Nephilim]

well Im sure in the last year, they have lost great profit because of there triniton technology becoming obsolete (many companys used there technolgy, tons of licencing cash and there own sales), and iv noticed they have fallen well behind in the LCD and Plasma market which is booming

[stevey]

"That's what I figured BigJim, but still, how much of a loss can Sony receive with just PS3 hardware? That loss will definately affect them, either in taking the hit themselves, or having PS3 at $500+"

even at 500+ sony still might take losess because the ps3 Blu Ray drive will cost Sony $100+ to make plus the cell chip and all the other useless sh!t sony putting in the ps3 will make sony take huge loses or outright die (like they should) over the ps3.

[boggy b]

The $100 was an unconfirmed analyst prediction. In other words, they might simply have selected that number by throwing darts at a board for all we know. As for Cell being 'useless s***', what do you recommend they put in instead? It's got great potential for physics simulations in games, and it'll be great at throwing around an assload of vertices. What else in the PS3 is 'useless'?

[KDR_11k]

boggy: Don't bite, Stevey just insults random things in order to get someone to defend these things and maybe break loose a flamewar on the subject.

[Artimus]

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Originally posted by: boggy b
The $100 was an unconfirmed analyst prediction. In other words, they might simply have selected that number by throwing darts at a board for all we know. As for Cell being 'useless s***', what do you recommend they put in instead? It's got great potential for physics simulations in games, and it'll be great at throwing around an assload of vertices. What else in the PS3 is 'useless'?

The controller, the architecture, the case design, the developers, the company, the coporation, but most of all:

KRAZY KEN KUTARAGI!  

[stevey]

"As for Cell being 'useless s***', what do you recommend they put in instead? It's got great potential for physics simulations in games, "

what do you need more physics power for? we got "bouncing melon" what more do you need?

and for the last time KDR I don't try to start flamewar! if I was I'll say stuff like ninteno tiku tiku tiku! . I just a big fanboy of nintendo and hate all thing that not nintendo or sega or google

[KDR_11k]

Come on, flaming isn't flame baiting. You know fully well that in order to have a flamewar you need two opposing groups that will sustain it and that "Nintendo is only for children" lacks the group that agrees so it wouldn't be a flamewar, it'd be you against the world. In conclusion: If you were flamebaiting you wouldn't say "Nintendo si teh Kiddeh!", you'd say "The Cell is a completely worthless piece of s###" because there's a higher chance there'll be a fanboy on this board that agrees with you on that.

By the way, stop pretending you have no clue about BBcode, the open font color tags you added to some of your posts to make posts quoting them look bad clearly prove the opposite.

[nickmitch]

Now who's biting the flame bait?