Topic: Fox makes Family Guy without Seth MacFarlane

[IceCold]

Wewt Corner Gas.

[GoldenPhoenix]

Just to update people Supposedly the negotiations have broken down. The WGA is demanding that they have control over reality/animation AND have the ability to strike with the Screen Actors Guild!  

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: Plugabugz
A protracted American strike results in a few things, to me at least: The sudden resurgence in British and Canadian productions (Torchwood season 2 starting next month, Sanctuary, Stargate Atlantis becoming interesting when there's nothing to compare it against etc)

Is Stargate Atlantis written by Canadian writers that aren't involved with the strike? Regardless if this goes on too long it can mean bad things for the California economy.

[Plugabugz]

Atlantis is written and filmed in Canada GO IAN!. They only have one american writer that they lost to the strike, so things continue there as normal.

Doctor Who, Torchwood, Sarah Jane Adventures etc are filmed in Wales.  

[capamerica]

I would be more willing to support the writers if it wasn't for the fact that American TV has gone down the toilet over the last 8 years.
Over the last 8 years I can only think of 5 shows I watched that were actually made in the US.

I hope the networks take this time to open their arms to more shows from other countries.
Its time to stop remaking UK shows and just air the originals.
American TV sucks, time to bring over more shows from Canada, UK, Australia and Japan.

[Guitar Smasher]

Family Guy, and to a lesser extent, TV, is so formulaic these days that I doubt anyone will notice anyway.  

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I don't know what country you're talking about when it comes to teaching.  But unless you are talking about a college professor doing research, there is no teacher making 70k period.

Yes there are. I've seen it with my own two eyes.

Bah - I was definitely wrong on that.  I just looked through NY and CA pay charts.  I would like to point out that those states have notoriously high costs of living.  I remember when I was a boy in Canada, teachers went on strike for more pay.  I was about 9 so it didn't effect my schedule, but I do realize it could hurt students.  Now that I live in NC, I see the alternative where a teacher's starting salary is around 30k (because teachers union's are illegal).  And yes a teacher who doesn't do summer school works 180 days (+teacher work days - more like 200 days) but the average person works 52 wks *5 days = 260 days - vacation alotted.  The time difference is about a month - month and a half, but often the pay difference for someone with the same amount of education is more than a month salary.

My mom being a teacher in Ontario, I'm a little familiar with the general pay scale.  30k is less than the starting salary, but not as far off as you would think.  My mom having taught for over 25 years pulls in a bit over 70k (before Canadian Taxes, keep in mind).  And when teachers strike, salary is usually not the main issue.  If you ask almost any teacher, they would prefer more prep time over a 1% salary increase.

[Plugabugz]

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Originally posted by: capamerica

I hope the networks take this time to open their arms to more shows from other countries.
Its time to stop remaking UK shows and just air the originals.
American TV sucks, time to bring over more shows from Canada, UK, Australia and Japan.

So what does everyone think of the UK versions of stuff like The Office?

[IceCold]

It's funny, but at times the humour is very awkward..

[18 Days]

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Originally posted by: capamerica

I hope the networks take this time to open their arms to more shows from other countries.
Its time to stop remaking UK shows and just air the originals.
American TV sucks, time to bring over more shows from Canada, UK, Australia and Japan.

So what does everyone think of the UK versions of stuff like The Office?

Superior in every way.

Oh and GP, merit based pay for teachers is absolute fail. You cannot measure teacher performance in any objective way.

[GoldenPhoenix]

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Originally posted by: 18 Days

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Originally posted by: Plugabugz

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Originally posted by: capamerica

I hope the networks take this time to open their arms to more shows from other countries.
Its time to stop remaking UK shows and just air the originals.
American TV sucks, time to bring over more shows from Canada, UK, Australia and Japan.

So what does everyone think of the UK versions of stuff like The Office?

Superior in every way.

Oh and GP, merit based pay for teachers is absolute fail. You cannot measure teacher performance in any objective way.

So pay the inept lazy teachers the same as hard working teachers that the kids learn something. When students can tell who a bad teacher is and a good teacher is, means there is an objective way of doing so whether it be testing or another way. Idiot teachers are just as easy to spot as good teachers.

[Nick DiMola]

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Originally posted by: capamerica

I hope the networks take this time to open their arms to more shows from other countries.
Its time to stop remaking UK shows and just air the originals.
American TV sucks, time to bring over more shows from Canada, UK, Australia and Japan.

So what does everyone think of the UK versions of stuff like The Office?

American Version of The Office > UK version of The Office.

British humor is definitely not for me. I like rude, offensive and unbelievably politically incorrect humor.

[BranDonk Kong]

I like them both, but it hurts to watch the UK version, because it makes you realize that the US version characters are basically clones, so you lose a sense of the "those are real people" feeling you get when you watch it. I think you should watch it more, Mr. Jack, it's almost the same show, I don't think the humor is very different at all.

[Spak-Spang]

Merit based Pay is hard with teachers...and probably should not be in fact the goal.

But, to allow teachers that have a TRACK RECORD of poor student scores, parent evaluations, and here is another one...other teacher evaluating.  Should not get the same raises as the teachers doing better...or probably should be fired.

I believe personally, in raising teachers salaries to pull in the best talent possible, and then stop this PC crap and help the teachers design their own teaching plans (that obviously must be reviewed) and give them the power to actually discipline and remove trouble students.  

So, really I believe Schools need to be pulled away from Federal Control, and away from State Control and be privately run.  The States as a whole for fund them, and the Federal Government just loosely monitor all the states and insure they are teaching required basics.  Then if a public school is failing because of mismanagement, then the private company can be booted out.  Hell, it would take awhile to work out the plan, but it would better.

Or, if that is too complicated for you...then lets just get a good Voucher program going and allow parents to send their kids to private schools, if they choose.  More private schools will open up and competition is always a good thing.