Topic: VC Video Quality Improvements

[Shecky]

I recently hooked my SNES back up using my GCN composite video cable.  When playing Super Mario World, a few of us noticed how the video was a little "jumpy".  It shook, mostly up and down, very slightly giving things a bit of a double vision (or a bit blurry) feel.  I don't remember games being like that but then again we also had a smaller TV.

Now I recently downloaded Link to the Past on the VC, and it does nothing of the sort.  So my question is that part of the benefit of VC, or is it just the fault of my SNES?

I have yet to get a VC, N64 game... but I figure they run at better resolutions since playing a N64 game now on a 36" set is painful (could barely tell what I was shooting at half the time in Star Fox 64).

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

If you tell me what kind of TV you played SNES on *in the past* versus the kind of TV you played it on *recently*, I'll be able to give you a thorough explaination concerning display differences.

[Shecky]

In the past: 25" CRT TV (4:3) using composite RCA (480i)
Recently: 36" CRT TV (4:3) using composite RCA (480i)
Wii/VC: 36" CRT TV (4:3) using component cables (480p)

Playing the actual SNES on the new set seems to flicker/shake ever so slightly, but it's imediately noticable.  Gamecube with the same cable looks fine.  N64 has its own set of issues...  

Edit:  I actually pulled out my old 25" set and confirmed that the SNES looks fine on it.  In example, Super Mario All-Stars - go to the game select screen.  The blue background will have a notable flicker insead of the solid blue on the 25" set.

Edit2:  Hmm, I seemed to find an option on the new tv for "Digital Options" with a) Progressive and b) 1050i lines

Setting that to progressive seems to have greatly reduced the problem.  

[BranDonk Kong]

Is this a PAL TV? 525p? Progressive scan eliminates the flicker, since the whole screen is drawn at once. If you're using this TV simply for the Wii, then the progressive scan signal is definitely the way to go.

[Shecky]

NTSC TV.... I have component cables and run 480p for both the GCN and Wii.

The GCN looks fine on standard cables as well (and it turns out that the TV saves settings for each set of inputs, and the one the GCN was set to was already on "progressive")

I have no idea what the "progessive" and "1050i lines" means as that's a strange use of the word progressive... especially since the signal is most definately 480i for the SNES.

[Entroper]

The Gamecube has an excellent deflickering filter.  You can observe its effects directly if you own a copy of SSBM, go into the options and turn it on and off.  Some newer TVs are capable of displaying much more accurately than old TVs, meaning that your eyes will more easily notice the flickering present in an interlaced image.  Older TVs blur the adjacent scan lines a little, and the flicker isn't as noticeable.  You'll notice that this is exactly what the Gamecube's filter does -- the deflickered image is a little more blurry than the non-deflickered image.

Your "progressive" setting most likely enables some kind of deflickering filter on the TV if it is receiving an interlaced signal.