Topic: More love for the Revolution!!!!

[trip1eX]

"The amount of individual designer support for Nintendo's imaginative Revolution controller has been overwhelmingly positive. The Sims and SimCity creator Will Wright recently chatted with Shacknews about a variety of topics, including his personal thoughts on Revolution.

As has been seen from other designers, Wright is all for it. "I'm really interested in the Revolution to see how the controller works out. That looks pretty cool," he says. "It looks very interesting to me. I like the idea of taking the games more outside the box and more into that close-body kind of space."

Considering the answer came in response to a question about whether Wright had been playing anything interesting lately, the praise is noteworthy.

The amount of work still left on Wright's ambitious Spore project means it's too early to speculate whether he's considered working on a Revolution project, but positive word of mouth from the creator of the best selling PC game of all time certainly can't hurt. "

" Microsoft may be smiling from ear to ear with Kojima’s recent comments about the Xbox 360 hardware, but a Rare employee speaking to Eurogamer has given some love to Nintendo’s Revolution, as well. Multiplayer designer Duncan Botwood claims that Rare could actually port Perfect Dark Zero to Nintendo’s next-generation console:

   We could make it work, but there’d be some changes to the gameplay, I expect; the controller looks like it might lend itself towards a light gun style of shooting, which would be a fresh approach.

Those are some kind words which hint at Nintendo’s ability to keep up with the competition, in terms of technology. However, Botwood showed some skepticism for Nintendo’s new controller: “Most people don’t use TV remote controls constantly for a whole hour, let alone wave them in the air all that time.”

Take your TV remote and swing it around in the air for awhile - how long do you think you could do that in one play session without getting tired? What if you had your arm resting and just moved your wrist?"

[Arbok]

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Originally posted by: trip1eX
Multiplayer designer Duncan Botwood claims that Rare could actually port Perfect Dark Zero to Nintendo’s next-generation console:

We could make it work, but there’d be some changes to the gameplay, I expect; the controller looks like it might lend itself towards a light gun style of shooting, which would be a fresh approach.

Ok... And Microsoft would be ok with Rare porting exclusives to Nintendo's systems? I kind of doubt that. Got a link for these quotes?

[Bill Aurion]

He did say they could...technically...But obviously it won't happen...It was mainly the Rare guy showing approval of the Revolution...

[Spak-Spang]

Perhaps it is also, A Rare employee throwing a bone to a company (Nintendo) they respect more than their current employer (Microsoft).


In the Business world, you try not to give the competition any glowing praise, unless you just have too.

[NotSoStu]

It's not so impossible. really. Conker Reloaded was a flop. So was that ghost game. Kameo isn't getting particularly good reviews, and PDZero seems pretty lackluster, according to those who've played it. Maybe Microsoft'll put Rare up for sale.. Not that I can see why Nintendo would want it... Rare's last good game was probably Banjo-Tooie. And all their FPS talent went to the Timesplitters team.

[Don'tHate742]

Timesplitters....*drools*

I could care less about Rare now, but their past games are absolute gold. Not having GoldenEye or Perfect Dark or both is a huge blow to Nintendo's virtual console.

That's beside the point however.  

[Arbok]

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Not that I can see why Nintendo would want it...

I agree, the only thing I want out of them is the KI licence right now (why couldn't Nintendo have just taken that one too instead of being nice? They can have the rest, just keep KI damn it...).

[odifiend]

A new KI game hasn't been made since the SNES.  What happened to THAT team, anyway?  How does this Rare employee know that PD0 could be ported?  Rare was sold even before the DS was announced (which it self was thought up in 18 months according to da Monarch)...  Would they have access to Rev specs?

[cubist]

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A new KI game hasn't been made since the SNES.  What happened to THAT team, anyway?  How does this Rare employee know that PD0 could be ported?  Rare was sold even before the DS was announced (which it self was thought up in 18 months according to da Monarch)...  Would they have access to Rev specs?

The team that was responsible for the N64's KI Gold was headed by Mark Betteridge ( I could have the first name wrong)...but that team would go on to create Conker 64...and change it to Conquer's Quest...and then finally after many years of work, it became Conquer's BFD with the extreme makeover.  The game was initially shown with the original Banjo Kazooie as Project Dream.  These projects were supposed to be the N64 equivalents to the SNES Donkey Kong Country advancements in graphics, but in 3D.  

I'm not sure if Team Betteridge is still with RARE and if they actually followed through and finished the end-product of Conquer's BFD for the N64...OR if he ever left RARE at all.  I do remember his last interview with Nintendo Power where he was boasting about the facial expressions on Conquer when they created the game.

Back on topic:  I would take the  information from the RARE employee with a grain of salt.  It would seem weird that a RARE employee would identify himself and praise the Rev.  Then again, members of Free Radical, David Doak and Mike Armstrong, have gone on record with IGN (October 11th, 2002) in an interview stating Nintendo is their "spiritual home".  

As for RARE having tech specs on the Revolution, I would highly doubt it.  The DS and GBA are different because they don't directly compete with the XBOX 360.  Then again, SONY owned Psygnosis during the PSX era, and they used Acclaim to port games to competing systems.


   

[ruby_onix]

Here's the full quote from "the Rare guy", as part of a Perfect Dark Zero interview.

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=1&cId=3145609

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Given Rare's history of being a former Nintendo developer, we asked Botwood if he thought Perfect Dark Zero would work as a title for Nintendo's upcoming Revolution console. His response: "We could make it work, but there'd be some changes to the gameplay, I expect; the controller looks like it might lend itself towards a light gun style of shooting, which would be a fresh approach. Personally, I'd like to try using the controller for an hour or more, the length of play session I had when I played Wind Waker, for example...it doesn't look that comfortable to me at first glance. Most people don't use TV remote controls constantly for a whole hour, let alone wave them in the air all that time. I'm skeptical, but that's tempered by my respect for Nintendo and my past experience of working with their controllers."

[Arbok]

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Here's the full quote from "the Rare guy", as part of a Perfect Dark Zero interview.

There we go, and that's why having the full context always helps. Thanks Ruby Onix.

[trip1eX]

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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
Here's the full quote from "the Rare guy", as part of a Perfect Dark Zero interview.

There we go, and that's why having the full context always helps. Thanks Ruby Onix.

Yeah thanks man for the posting the exact same info I posted.  That helps tremondously.  Now we can all finish our research papers.

[ruby_onix]

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Yeah thanks man for the posting the exact same info I posted.  That helps tremondously.  Now we can all finish our research papers.

No, Eurogamer (at least, I guess it was Eurogamer, because you didn't say where this was from) took two lines out of context, and used one of them to support a wild claim, leading to a couple of confused posts.

The real quote with no added editorial makes much more sense.

[cubist]

yeah...the full context...that would've helped...but it was a fun topic while it lasted.  i think that sometimes we just want to hear good news from third parties and tech people that it drives this type of interaction.  

[trip1eX]

If you have any common sense at all in your bones then you'd figure out what the quote meant.  RAre is an MS company.  So it's obvious they aren't making games for the Revolution especially porting 360 launch titles to it.  lol.

And thus it's obvious that he's just saying that the REvolution technically could handle the game with little difficulty.

This illustrates what I've been saying all along.  And that's that the REvolution might be able to do bigger and badder games than the 360 albeit at a lower resolution even if it's overall less powerful.  That's because alot of the power of the 360 is devoted to making the game run smooth at the 720p.

AT the same time saying PDZ can run on the Revolution really doesn't mean that much.  IT's pretty easy to scale down games.  Every pcgamer knows about this.  Every pcgame has lots of options for turning on/off various graphical effects and turning the resolution up/down so games can run on everything from 4 yr old machines to today's top rigs.    

[PaLaDiN]

I don't get it. Why is this news? They could make it run on the Cube if they really wanted to. This means nothing.