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Offline elementc

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RE:Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2004, 09:53:14 PM »
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Xbox sucks I hate M$ and the xbox 2 will be a failure just like the xbox .


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Originally posted by: Darc Requiem
The xbox 2/Xenon won't have a hard drive and may not have backward compatiblity. I'm not a big MS fan but at least here in the US they have a bit of momentum. They are actually going toe to toe with the PS2 in sales. By not having Backward compatibility... they will lose the momentum they have People that currently on the xbox won't feel obligated to purchase the xbox 2 to play their older games. I thought backward compatiblity was unnecessary before but the blind purchasing of the PS2 at launch despite the lack of quality titles proves me wrong.


I'd like to point something out right here. The xbox 2 may or may not have a harddrive. That doesn't seem to be set in stone at this point in time. On the issue of backwards compatibility... Gamespy reported that only about ten percent of the people who have a PS2 actually play their older games. Though, 10% of the xbox's user base is much more important in Microsoft's case. ABout that that last part about "obligaton", you don't buy a new console to be able to plat older games. Either way, this whole thing about backwards compatibility may end up being pointless if they get their emulator working. I personally find it funny that Microsoft is using Apple computers to develop the xbox 2. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

By the way... that article is also on Gamespy, which happens to be far better than IGN could ever dream of being!! Gamespy made the article, not IGN, those jerks, why'd they have to partner with Gamespy... oh well.  
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RE: Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2004, 11:08:04 PM »
I don't think it is a right or wrong to release X-box 2/Xenon early.  It all depends on how MS markets the console, the games at launch and after, and how it continues to sell once the PS3 and Revolution are launched.  It all depends how MS play their cards.

All I have to say is:  next gen. is going to be really interesting!  I'm gonna make sure I have plenty of popcorn!

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RE: Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2004, 03:06:48 AM »
The 10% figure was claimed by Microsoft's studies, GSI just stole it without asking. Also, the number of people who bought the PS2 instead of waiting for the other consoles because of this was probably much higher. It's just like how you buy a GBA with the prospect of playing your old games on it and most people end up leaving their old games at home (because they played them to death already) and only playingtheir new GBA games. Yet, they bought the device for its backwards compatibility.

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RE:Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2004, 07:42:35 PM »
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RE:Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2004, 12:29:48 PM »
This only could work to MS's advantage if they have backwards compatibility. If not the most recent X-box owners are going to feel like they've been screwed. Its all about momentum. Even if they manage to garner significant support, they are going to lose their technological advantage. I won't even begin to discuss there lack of presence in Japan. Nintendo has an opening if they can take advantage of Sony's arrogance and MS's ensuing early launch blunder.

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RE:Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #30 on: July 12, 2004, 07:26:50 PM »
I've got an Xbox and quite frankly I really don't care if the Xbox2/Xenon is backwards compatible or not. Either way I'm still going to keep my old one and if I want to play my old games well then that's what it's there for (though it does take up alot of floor space ). The reason it may not be is because the Xbox2 may not have a HDD, and many of the Xbox's games use it to load up levels dynamically while you're playing and/or cut down on loading time by saving to the HDD, so obviously if you take away the HDD the games wont work. That's what I read anyway...  

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RE: Potential Dumb Move By MS
« Reply #31 on: July 12, 2004, 09:53:50 PM »
nVidia already stated that even if MS could emulate their chips, NVidia won't let them. After all, most of the stuff involved is patented. If a game uses only the API and NO low level calls you might be able to run it with different DX libraries, but low level calls would kill that.