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Offline Pikkcuber

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Final Fantasy 1 and 2
« on: April 12, 2004, 12:51:04 PM »
Well square did like the rumor said, there making a remake of old final fantasies.  Thats good news but there's bad news, no ff 3.  I bet that will go to the PSP.  Square is re doing the gameplay so final fantasy 1 is not so clunky.  I have big questions for ff2.  I played this game on the snes when it came out and this seems to be a different game entirley. I heard the japaneese version was different.  The ff 2 i know is your cecil and your a knight you have a brother kain and your love intrest is rose and you become a paladin(Hey i did that all off of my head and i havent played that game since about 97 maybe, brother sold my snes) . So could someone please fill me in on the ff 2 they are talking about.
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RE: Final Fantasy 1 and 2
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2004, 01:00:18 PM »
In Japan, Final Fantasy 1-3 were for the NES.  Only FF1 came out in the US.  In Japan, Final Fantasy 4-6 came out for the SNES.  When Square brought Final Fantasy 4 and Final Fantasy 6 to the US, they called them "Final Fantasy 2" and "Final Fantasy 3" respectively.

Thankfully, since Final Fantasy 7, all games are called the same thing in all areas of the world.

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RE: Final Fantasy 1 and 2
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2004, 01:04:08 PM »
You know about Final Fantasy 1 on the NES, right? Well there was a "Final Fantasy 2" and even a "Final Fantasy 3" on the NES too, but they were only available in Japan.

The game you saw on the SNES as "Final Fantasy 2" was actually "Final Fantasy 4".

There was also a "Final Fantasy 5" on the SNES that we never saw over here (at first, but it was ported to the PlayStation).

And then the game we knew as "Final Fantasy 3" was really "Final Fantasy 6".

Then we get to "Final Fantasy 7" on the PlayStation, where Square stopped messing up the numbers.

Edit: Nemo beat me to it.
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RE: Final Fantasy 1 and 2
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2004, 04:36:46 PM »
that was really confusing.  so what your saying is that the game i played is not the true final fantasy 2 but a different game square named the same  just to confuse us.  Is final fantasy 2 a good game, ive been kind of suspect of squares earlier work?
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RE: Final Fantasy 1 and 2
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2004, 05:34:26 PM »
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so what your saying is that the game i played is not the true final fantasy 2 but a different game square named the same just to confuse us.

Yes, the game you played (with Cecil and Rosa and Kain) is really called "Final Fantasy 4", but Square changed it's name to try and not confuse us.

You see, back in the NES days, Square didn't have any American people or American money to translate and publish their games.

Square/Nintendo arranged for Nintendo of America to translate and publish the first game. After it was done, Square dropped two more of them on NOA's desk, but NOA didn't want to do more of them, so they said "We're busy. Do it yourself." But Square wasn't capable of translating someting as big as an RPG yet, so they didn't.

Word around schoolyard playgrounds (the place to find BS at the time, since the internet hadn't been invented yet) was that Nintendo refused to let Square make the games, because they were "too similar", even though they let Enix make four Dragon Warrior games.

By the time the SNES came out, Square had finally made a "Square of America", in time for FF4, but they decided that calling it "FF4" would confuse people, so they called it "FF2".

By the way, the version you played was made "easier" by Square, so it wouldn't scare anyone off with it's difficulty level. They made it easier for you to get experience and levels, so you didn't need to spend a lot of time "levelling up".

Also, the translation wasn't as good as it could be. Like, did the fight on top of the mountain where Cecil became a Paladin make any sense to you? Probably not. And it wasn't because you were younger. If anything, it might have made more sense to you if you were younger, and couldn't entirely tell what was going on.

A retranslated version with the original difficulty was ported to the PSone. It suffers from typical PlayStation loading times, and has a numbers of bugs in it (the game crashes sometimes), but it's only $20 and comes with a port of Chrono Trigger (which has even worse loading times, but has some nifty anime sequences), so you might be interested in it.

I can't really say if FF2j is any good, because I haven't played it yet, but these Wonderswan-based remakes look a LOT better than the original NES games (even better than the SNES games, in a lot of places), and FF2j was the first one to have a specific story to the game, with characters who had their own names.
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RE: Final Fantasy 1 and 2
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2004, 10:46:02 AM »
wow ruby onix thats some good info.  And while were on the subject I thought Cecil was like fighting his dad and hen he got his paladin powers.  Which now that I thought of it doesnt really make any sense.  Maybe his dad was training him and he got his powers like that, but well all of that is ancient history now i guess
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