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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2007, 04:48:33 PM »
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RE: Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2007, 09:42:51 PM »
Haha, imagine if NWR put this much effort into actually discussing games. It could even turn into a real forum again!
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2007, 09:51:06 PM »
Clearly someone hasn't seen the sock discussion on the Mario Galaxy forum!  
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2007, 10:16:22 PM »
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All the games I have bought and intend to buy are first party.  I think Third party just is not pumping out the quality games that they need to in order to sell the numbers that they want.  I also think the Wii is inundated with party games because they are cheap and easy to make.  Devs just want a quick buck out of these games and thats why they lack real substance.  Again, I know its still been less than a year.  But I dont even see anything of true substance in the near future.


I actually agree with you and respect your decision, but it was quite awhile ago that I decided that I would NOT be the sort of Nintendo fanboi who whined about third party support and didn't buy third party games when the chance to do so was staring me in the face. I've bought my share of duds, but I've also discovered that I have more fun when I'm less snooty with games, and I'm more likely to discover little gems that I come to adore, like Cubivore and Killer 7 with the Gamecube, and Dewy and Alien Syndrome with the Wii. Yeah, everyone ignored Cubivore... but it was a refreshing breath of fresh air for me, and I'm doing my best to not judge books by their covers lest I miss out on some other poorly-treated third-party Gem.
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #104 on: October 07, 2007, 12:33:46 AM »
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Haha, imagine if NWR put this much effort into actually discussing games. It could even turn into a real forum again!
Honestly. This isn't a place to discuss games anymore, and it's been headed in this direction for a few years now.
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RE: Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2007, 08:44:21 AM »
This is a forum for half games discussion, and half what-it-means-to-be-a-fanboi discussion.
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #106 on: October 07, 2007, 04:22:08 PM »
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I actually agree with you and respect your decision, but it was quite awhile ago that I decided that I would NOT be the sort of Nintendo fanboi who whined about third party support and didn't buy third party games when the chance to do so was staring me in the face. I've bought my share of duds, but I've also discovered that I have more fun when I'm less snooty with games, and I'm more likely to discover little gems that I come to adore, like Cubivore and Killer 7 with the Gamecube, and Dewy and Alien Syndrome with the Wii. Yeah, everyone ignored Cubivore... but it was a refreshing breath of fresh air for me, and I'm doing my best to not judge books by their covers lest I miss out on some other poorly-treated third-party Gem.

Why did you limit yourself to Nintendo systems? Because you had high standards. You didn't want to support a company that was second best. And yet, what has that decision to severely limit the pool of games you can choose from cost you? It's forced you to constantly settle for mediocrity, to lower your standards. Don't you see the irony?  
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2007, 05:03:22 PM »
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Clearly someone hasn't seen the sock discussion on the Mario Galaxy forum!


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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #108 on: October 07, 2007, 05:07:44 PM »
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I actually agree with you and respect your decision, but it was quite awhile ago that I decided that I would NOT be the sort of Nintendo fanboi who whined about third party support and didn't buy third party games when the chance to do so was staring me in the face. I've bought my share of duds, but I've also discovered that I have more fun when I'm less snooty with games, and I'm more likely to discover little gems that I come to adore, like Cubivore and Killer 7 with the Gamecube, and Dewy and Alien Syndrome with the Wii. Yeah, everyone ignored Cubivore... but it was a refreshing breath of fresh air for me, and I'm doing my best to not judge books by their covers lest I miss out on some other poorly-treated third-party Gem.

Why did you limit yourself to Nintendo systems? Because you had high standards. You didn't want to support a company that was second best. And yet, what has that decision to severely limit the pool of games you can choose from cost you? It's forced you to constantly settle for mediocrity, to lower your standards. Don't you see the irony?


Hmm! That is ironic!

But I don't see it as settling for mediocrity. I've played and enjoyed Mediocre games for all my life, starting with the NES' DynoWarz, IronSword, and Bard's Tale. What you don't realize is that I'm not searching for some holy grail: I've actually never been after "the perfect game." I'm searching for a sense of newness and wild discovery: I'm not a hardcore gamer as much I am an all-gamer. I'm not after the crystallization of a concept so much as I am after the emergence of a new one. This is why I enjoyed Pikmin 1 more than Pikmin 2, and why I haven't been blown away by any Zelda console games after OoT.

There's no question that one of Nintendo's hallmarks is quality, but that isn't the real reason I'm here. I'm here for the flipside as well, the other side of the coin: Nintendo's promise of new experiences.

*shrug*

Sometimes, that newness is buried in games that other gamers prejudge as having nothing to offer.
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2007, 05:27:59 PM »
Newness is key in selling games. For example if the Final Fantasy universe had never been thought up and Final Fantasy XII was the first Final Fantasy game. Then millions of copies would be sold and there would be mass hysteria; but that didn't happen and there have been so many new and remade, Final Fantasy games, that it sold less than par for the amazing game it really is. You could say this for almost any well known franchise that has been around for a long time, like Zelda or some Sports franchises...

So I guess my point is that a new game that has some very interesting concepts and polished gameplay can be crazed after and admired even though it may not be great. e.g. Bioshock, it was a very good game but they could have expanded it tremendously. Us as people though made it a "big deal" because we want something similar but better (a sequel).  
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RE: Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #110 on: October 07, 2007, 07:21:21 PM »
Yeah, that's true. There's a reason that I didn't buy any Mario Parties after the first one. It's not necessarily that I wouldn't enjoy the other games, but they simply failed to entice me as much as the first, novel, instance of the concept. Although it should be interesting to note that the first iteration of a franchise on a new platform probably gets a burst of "newness" because of the platform's inherent newness, hence Mario Party 8's great sales despite hardcore gamer grumblings.
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RE:Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #111 on: October 07, 2007, 07:32:35 PM »
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Haha, imagine if NWR put this much effort into actually discussing games. It could even turn into a real forum again!


Well, when you get criticized for having a high post count, just because you like to enjoy discussion on several different things, you see why NWR forums don't always cover things as well we could.
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RE: Is Nintendo Creating Lapsed Wii Gamers?
« Reply #112 on: October 07, 2007, 07:38:11 PM »
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