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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2007, 09:29:24 PM »
This thread got way too serious way too fast, and I'm putting an end to it maybe

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And THAT is why games like Columbine and JFK reloaded are so insanely idiotic.

Have you ever PLAYED JFK Reloaded? That game is fun as hell. Go see if they have it on underdogs, I think they do.

And see if you can assassinate JFK with two richochets into a headshot. I played until I could.

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2007, 09:39:46 PM »
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And see if you can assassinate JFK with two richochets into a headshot. I played until I could.


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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #27 on: April 19, 2007, 09:54:59 PM »
If you haven't played JFK Reloaded and laughed like a retard after you get the president's limo ten feet in the air, you're kicked out of the funhouse

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #28 on: April 19, 2007, 10:21:42 PM »
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If you haven't played JFK Reloaded and laughed like a retard after you get the president's limo ten feet in the air, you're kicked out of the funhouse


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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #29 on: April 20, 2007, 08:42:55 AM »
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This is the first step in the right direction. Soon people will just completely tune him out.


I'm REALLY hoping this is the case.

My fear lies in the fact that ignorant masses are generally just lumps of influential clay when it comes to sensationalism and the fact that JT is big on playing the catholicism card is evidence that he sees this as well.

These people won't even get to see the rebuttals to his outrageous claims, especially when the media has never had anyone competent to counter him whenever he's on some kind of talk show.
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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2007, 09:41:39 AM »
Looks like MSNBC is now upset at Jack Thompson, at least on the internet they are.  My guess?  Thompson blamed a version of CS that MS published, and even wrote a letter to Bill Gates.  I think this is a threat to Thompson, that if he doesn't stop with the pushing that CS did this, then MSNBC might go into actual stuff against JT on air.  That's my impression.

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #31 on: April 20, 2007, 05:51:04 PM »
MSNBC link

Yes, it does look more like MSNBC did this to get him back then because they genuinely disagreed with him.
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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2007, 08:43:07 PM »
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I think this is a threat to Thompson, that if he doesn't stop with the pushing that CS did this, then MSNBC might go into actual stuff against JT on air.


Did you see the legal beartrap that Take Two managed to catch JT in? I laughed because it pretty much gets him off their back, and they did it through the legal system!

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The settlement now assures that JT will not: sue or threaten to sue to block sale or distribution of any game published by Take Two or its subsidiaries; communicate to Take Two or anyone doing business with T2 (like, say Wal-Mart) any accusation that the company committed any wrongdoing by selling its games; make any future contacts with T2 unless it's through its attorneys.


http://gamepolitics.com/2007/04/19/breaking-grand-theft-auto-publisher-settles-lawsuit-against-jack-thompson/  

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #33 on: April 21, 2007, 01:52:16 AM »
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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2007, 11:03:07 PM »
I really wish the Daily Show would say something about the media's coverage of the shooting. So many stupid things are being said. Things like (not direct quotes) "it's videogame's fault!" and "if you notice someone is weird or antisocial you should do this-or-that," and "Cho shouldn't have been let into Virgina Tech because of his mental health record," etc. etc.

A friend of mine was just, today (well, yesterday), involuntarily committed to a mental institution for evaluation, for something he wrote in class. That may not have happened if there was one rational voice out there pointing out that school shootings are very rare occurrences, and much less of a threat than, say, cars or cigarettes. That overreacting is the worst thing anyone can do right now. That singling people out because they have things in common with the shooter is stupid. That lots of people are weird, and write violent stories, and play videogames.

If you're a school official, I do want you to respond to direct threats well. If, for example, someone shoots 2 people in a dorm, you might want to do something about that. If someone says that he's going to harm himself or others, please, call the appropriate authorities. But, if you just feel that someone is iffy, for one vague reason or another, make sure your response is reasoned and appropriate.

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2007, 11:34:36 PM »
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Not at all.

In this day and age its very easy to gain attention by being an alarmist [spolier]sup al gore. The mass media runs on this method of delivering news, as it grabs the attention of the audience. And once it has the audience, it has to deliver more news that grabs the attention. Its a vicious cycle.

What disappoints me about the shootings was how quickly everyone was looking for an excuse for the tragedy. Sure, the shooter was ID'd pretty early on, but after that it looks like everyone went on wild goose chases searching for that single elusive item that links everything together. I'm sure JT will claim that he was just expressing his opinion of the matter (correct or otherwise) but his attitude towards the incident was disgusting. He trumpeted that video games produce murderers because he could spout examples from the past. He spent more time rambling then answering questions.

My opinion of the event is that it was a terrible tragedy. Like most people, I wanted to know why Cho decided it was time to slay his fellow students. When I heard that the shooter had mysterious words tattooed on his arm, i tried to understand what those words may mean, as I believe the shootings were his way of sending a message to the world (as morbid as that is). But once I saw his videos being broadcast around the world, which consisted of the angry rants and hateful message of a disturbed person, I didn't want to know any more. He managed to gain attention by manipulating the media and justifying what he did.

He knew what he was doing. And that is why I don't believe the shootings can be blamed on mental problems, as it was a premeditated and devastating act.

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A friend of mine was just, today, involuntarily committed to a mental institution for evaluation, for something he wrote in class. That may not have happened if there was one rational voice out there pointing out that school shootings are very rare occurrences, and much less of a threat than, say, cars or cigarettes.


On the contrary, you look at this like its painting your friend as a psychopath. On the flipside, there is a process that goes on once he is at the institution. Its not like a hotel, you can't stay there unless you have mental problems. And even if he does, he's getting help at the place at least, rather then letting the problem manifest into various forms like we have seen.

For example, the worst shooting in Australian history was done back in the mid 90s. No-one saw it coming, not even his girlfriend. He had mental problems for most of his life (but no-one noticed), collected and stashed away guns guns (he had a couple of rifles and a shotgun at the time) and one day decided to go on a murderous rampage. Much like Cho did. But unlike Cho the authorities arrested the culprit and he's now serving 35 life sentences.

I know you are obviously angry at what happened, but mental problems are very different to cars and cigarettes. Keep us posted on how he is.

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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2007, 07:00:01 AM »
Our local newspaper just said he flipped because of girlfriend issues. Considering the number of suicides that happen for that reason it sounds reasonable.

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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2007, 11:35:25 AM »
In the metro they were saying it has something to do with the right to bear arms. Just bear in mind this is the same paper that heavily features innuendo for horoscopes: Big things will come into your life today and surprise you in ways you didn't expect. Be sure to catch the wave when it comes!

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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2007, 07:26:37 PM »
ALL horoscopes are like that.

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2007, 09:06:35 PM »
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...there is a process that goes on once he is at the institution.

Well, yes. But he never should have been placed in an institution in the first place. He never directly threatened himself or anyone else, and is not psychotic. The social worker who was responsible for him being taken away in handcuffs should have seen that. Instead, she saw what she wanted to see.

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Its not like a hotel, you can't stay there unless you have mental problems. And even if he does, he's getting help at the place at least, rather then letting the problem manifest into various forms like we have seen.

I take it you've never seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

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Keep us posted on how he is.

I've gotten word that the people over at the institution think that the social worker's assessment of the situation was incorrect. They don't think my friend is psychotic, in other words. It looks like he'll be home soon. So, hooray. Perhaps your faith in the system is justified, after all.

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[The shooter] knew what he was doing. And that is why I don't believe the shootings can be blamed on mental problems, as it was a premeditated and devastating act.

As there's no such thing as a mental disorder that takes away free will, I don't think any shootings can be blamed on mental problems.

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Our local newspaper just said he flipped because of girlfriend issues. Considering the number of suicides that happen for that reason it sounds reasonable.

When I heard about his girl problems, I was like "ah, that explains it!" I couldn't understand what would motivate a college student to shoot up his classmates, when college is so much less cruel than high school.

...but then I found out he thought was being picked on. That his college classmates were every bit as cruel as high school kids...at least, in his mind.

Though, now that I think about it, I suppose you can still blame the shootings on his girl problems. At least, if he was getting some, I don't think he'd have killed anybody.
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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2007, 06:02:47 AM »
As there's no such thing as a mental disorder that takes away free will

That is assuming the will is actually free. So far I have seen no evidence supporting that and a lot of evidence cotradicting it (e.g. addictions).

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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2007, 06:48:45 AM »
Addictions don't contradict free will.  Someone who is strongwilled can break even a physical addiction.

I stopped following the VT case as soon as it was announced he was a loner and nobody knew anything about him.   I'm sorry to break it to him but he wasn't unique and his behavior was so cliche - he was a much less cool Itachi.  It is not true he was being picked on, it sounds like people just ignored him because he ignored people.  He was just so anti-social that in his 23 years of life or whatever, he didn't understand the value of life as proved through his actions.
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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2007, 07:04:01 AM »
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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2007, 05:09:42 PM »
Well, now he has taken the next step, and added Kotaku to his sue-list, or whatever it is.  Apparently, he is very bad at drawing up lawsuits.
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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2007, 04:02:43 PM »
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I really wish the Daily Show would say something about the media's coverage of the shooting. So many stupid things are being said.


They heard you, it seems. Even mentioned the video games angle, although discredited it real quick and moved on.

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RE:Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2007, 05:05:26 PM »
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Well, now he has taken the next step, and added Kotaku to his sue-list, or whatever it is.  Apparently, he is very bad at drawing up lawsuits.
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Kotaku suit gets laughed out of court

Court says JT failed to follow the proper federal court procedure for amending a complaint.
JT pleads ignorance, claims he will file the complaint again.


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RE: Jack Thompson: Attorney, School Shootings Expert
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2007, 05:18:02 PM »
Wow, that's a big surprise.  Jack Thompson did something out of Ignorance?  It must only be a one time thing...