Topic: Revolution Controller Still Has Secrets

[KDR_11k]

The gun needs to be shown since you might be pointing at something of-screen and the gun on the screen should reflect that. Plus you couldn't give someone a facefull of gun butt without a visible gun.

[Nile Boogie]

Quote
Originally posted by: RABicle
Why would you need to see your gun in an FPS? uh because that way you'll know what weapon you're using perhaps? If it's all about immersion these days, we need to see the things we would see in real life.

What if you can tell what weapon you have just by looking at the controller? Or perhaps the controller will be able to transmit some sort of visual signal that can change based on the weapon you have in use? Lasers yo can see and junk like that.

[Hostile Creation]

I imagine with the Rev controller, the gun would show up on the screen depending on where you held the controller.  For example, if you let your arm down while walking around it might drop out of view, but it'd show up in an appropriate place on-screen while you shot.

[Ian Sane]

Technically the shell isn't a secret since we know about it but we still haven't SEEN it and that might count as a "secret" in Nintendo's eyes.  They do tend to think pretty highly of their own ideas and something as simple as that might considered a big deal to them.

I think at the very least it's an attachment and it probably relates to exactly what comes with each controller since we don't know that yet.  We've been told about the shell and we've seen the nunchuk but we don't know exactly what we get as part of the standard yet.

We don't know the details about the batteries yet either.  It might just be related to those.

I don't think it's a mic because there's really no need to have a mic on every controller.  The DS has a mic but the DS is played by yourself.  Yes you can play online and such but everyone playing has their own system.  The Rev, being a console, is designed to accomodate having several people in a room at once playing on the same system.  Having four mics that close to each other wouldn't work very well.  They would be picking up sounds from the other players.  Now a mic still is useful but I think it would work best if the console came with one mic to be passed around to others which is normal for microphone games.  Each controller doesn't need one.

[wandering]

Quote
Technically the shell isn't a secret since we know about it but we still haven't SEEN it and that might count as a "secret" in Nintendo's eyes. They do tend to think pretty highly of their own ideas and something as simple as that might considered a big deal to them.

Well, the layout of the shell will be a surprise. Or at least it should be....because if it's just a wavebird I'd be pretty dissapointed. For those of you who don't have the zelda collecter's disc, the cube controller SUCKS when it comes to playing 2D games.

I have a feeling Nintendo'll return to a 3-pronged layout with this one.  

[KDR_11k]

I liked it for Four Swords. And Viewtiful Joe and Smash Bros and ...

I just don't see where all this "analogs suck for 2d, d-pad forevah!" talk is coming from.

[ShyGuy]

I think control calibration has a lot to do with a game playing well on the d-pad or the analog stick.

Mario Kart DS controls about the same as Mario Kart Double Dash! but one uses the analog and one use the d-pad.

[Ian Sane]

"I just don't see where all this 'analogs suck for 2d, d-pad forevah!' talk is coming from."

Two of your examples are for games designed to exclusively use the analog stick.  If you play games designed for digital movement like the NES Zeldas or Tony Hawk or a 2D Capcom fighting game with the analog stick you notice the difference.  And with the Rev download service a LOT of games designed for a d-pad are going to be playable so you want something functional.

Personally I don't even need the three prong approach though I do like it.  I just want the d-pad to be the same size that the N64 d-pad was.  The Cube one was way too small and it was even indented a bit to make even harder to use.  You can tell that the d-pad was only added because third parties wanted it because Nintendo put no effort into it at all (just like the Z button which was also a third party request).

[ThePerm]

the d-pad wasn't so much bad on the gamecube as it was badly placed. It doesnt matter if the d-pad is small or not....but if it is small and its in a weird place its going to be wierd to use. Itr was greatfor spells in eternal darkness, and maps in windwaker, and commands in starwars...secondary features were nice.
as a methoud of movement it was however not too great.  

[Hostile Creation]

"For those of you who don't have the zelda collecter's disc, the cube controller SUCKS when it comes to playing 2D games."

I have a Gameboy Player and find that more comfortable than using a Gameboy (which is part of the reason I never got one, god bless the DS).

[Stimutacs Addict]

if the controllers and the system use bluetooth, I'd kill if the rev supported those blue-tooth earpieces every businessman and his mother have on their ears nowadays.