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QuoteOr Ico. Or Rez. Or Space Channel 5. Or Beyond Good & Evil. Or Eternal Darkness. Near-masterpieces, but total flops at the sales counter.
Originally posted by: Bill AurionSales and quality do not correlate...This can be easily seen with games like Driv3r...
Quote(1) Because it's not Starfox. Starfox is about space battles with ships and lasers, not wandering around on a planet with a baton. It would have been better with the original title "dinosaur planet", so as not to mislead Starfox fans to buy this crap.
Originally posted by: ShyGuy I didn't think it was that bad of a game. Why is it hated so much?
QuoteNo that's not it at all. Invalid assumption.
Originally posted by: mouse_clickerMy point is that having the elitist attitude that only the best games are worth your time is only cutting you off from countless good games whose only fault is not being as good as something else.
QuoteYou mean... the same thing you do with online games and saying Nintendo is stupid for not supporting them. You're describing yourself, not me.
Originally posted by: mouse_clickerQuoteNo, you're just elitist and feel the need to press onto other people YOUR preset view of what's good and what's bad.
I would conclude that you're a newbie to games and feel pity for your ignorance. And then I'd recommend you try a couple superior games, so that you can stop wasting your time on Mary-Kate Crap.
QuoteI would conclude that you're a newbie to games and feel pity for your ignorance. And then I'd recommend you try a couple superior games, so that you can stop wasting your time on Mary-Kate Crap.
Originally posted by: mouse_clickerQuoteWhat if I liked Mary-Kate/Ashley Go Shopping?
Of course mouse_clicker, if you prefer to note compare games, and therefore waste time playing crap like Mary-Kate/Ashley Go Shopping, then that's your choice.
QuoteFirst, it's not nostalgia. Many of these games I just played for the first time in 2003, because I never owned a Nintendo system. I liked the games on their own merits.
Originally posted by: KDR_11kAnd what I'm suggesting is that many of the old games really aren't a good way to pass your time if you compare them with today's games and don't feel any nostalgia for the old game. That many games were acceptable by the standards back then but don't hold up to the standards these days.
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Originally posted by: mouse_clicker[/iQuoteQuoteAnd why do you care if they think Mary-Kate/Ashley Go Shopping is good?
Comparing games or movies or whatever is how you determine what is "good" and what is "bad". Otherwise, without comparision to previous games, one might conclude that Mary-Kate/Ashley Go Shopping is good.
I did not say I did. When I used the "one" I was talking about myself. To repeat with better clarity: "Comparing games or movies or whatever is how I determine what is "good" and what is "bad". Otherwise, without comparision to previous games, I might conclude that Mary-Kate/Ashley Go Shopping is good." And to repeat the part you conveniently ignored: "My time is finite, and naturally I want to use it wisely with the BEST games, not just okay ones." I use comparision/contrast to decide.
Of course mouse_clicker, if you prefer to note compare games, and therefore waste time playing crap like Mary-Kate/Ashley Go Shopping, then that's your choice. But I don't believe you do that. I think you're just trying to win the debate, even though your point is god damn stupid.
QuoteStramwan argument. Never said that. I said: "A sequel should be more of the same goodness that made the original game so much fun. Same play, same goals, but new missions. ...and cleaner control."
Originally posted by: KDR_11kIn your original post, however, you stated that sequels should not innovate.
QuoteFor the same reason you would watch Star Trek 7 or Terminator 3 = new story, new world, new puzzles to solve. At least, that's the reason *I* would buy MP2.
Originally posted by: GoldShadow1I'm not saying this has to be a huge change, but if MP2's only improvement was "cleaner control", I would not be interested at all. I already have Metroid Prime, why would I want another?
QuoteIt has lots of built-in pauses by the programmer to achieve an effect... those are not loading events. Cartridge memory is instantaneous from the human point-of-view. There's no such thing as waiting with a cart.
Originally posted by: Myxtika1 AznHave you ever played Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the SNES? It has load times up the ass!
QuoteI don't believe that. If that were true, you'd lock yourself in your room, never speak to anyone, and not participate in this forum. If that were true, you wouldn't be here talking to us. It would just be you, your GameCube, and a Lot of Loneliness.
Originally posted by: mouse_clicker I think it occurs to me that I don't care what other people's opinions are.
QuoteYeah it sucks to have to use critical thinking. It makes my brain hurt.
Originally posted by: mouse_clicker Ugh, I HATE comparing games. Comparing games to one another is the stupidest thing you can do. Comparing games forces you to rationalize the games' differences in order to sync up their similarities, and then to rate their similarities in relation to one another.
QuoteAT LAST. Someone intelligent enough to understand my point. Yes, a good innovation is one the preserves the core purpose of the game & the fun. A bad innovation is one that destroys it and ruins the fun.
Originally posted by: GoldShadow1Good innovation is good. Bad innovation is bad. The question isn't whether they should innovate, it's HOW.
