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TalkBack / RE:GameCube’s Mid-Term Report Card

« on: December 31, 2003, 01:12:15 PM »

Hostile, I am 23. You are 17, a child. I have a Masters degree in Biochemistry whereas you have still yet to get a high school diploma. Living in a piece of shite place Lousiana, of course violence would be your only recourse, that's probably how you were raised. MC left the forum due to the overwhelming opinion against him. Your posts have no substance and wishing violence on a fellow member of this board only discredits you. I doubt anyone really takes you seriously anyway.

Hostile, you are also quite the idiot as well. Adaptation and catering to the casual gamer are NOT the basis of MC's arguments. MC was arguing that Nintendo should not change, that it should do whatever it wants as long as it is profitable. Of course, due to your short attention span you failed to read the rest of my post that Nintendo posted its first ever loss. It's not profitable anymore, so all of MC's arguments are invalid from the start. You should really stop arguing for MC. You lack the brainpower and maturity anyway to formulate any kind of reasonable argument and are wasting people's time here.

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TalkBack / RE:GameCube’s Mid-Term Report Card

« on: December 31, 2003, 12:18:14 PM »

Thanks Kyosho for the compliment. I was just trying to point out the obvious. MC, you have not been convincing anyone because you have failed to make any reasonable arguments that Nintendo shouldn't change for the sake of its gamers. In reality, everything points to the contrary. The reason why Nintendo went from first to third was because of its unwillingness to change. It completely underestimated Sony and the CD format. Now history will repeat itself, if Nintendo underestimates online gaming, not to mention DVD playback, sophisticated machine design, even color. If you think about it Nintendo's strategy is a suicidal one. It only appeals to kids, even though kids have no finances / money / ways to even buy games without help from their usually unwilling parents. Parents, when they finally give in, and want to surprise their child with a console during Christmas, birthday, etc. usually get an XBox or PS2 because quite frankly, they are more popular than Gamecube and they only know the popular ones. Not to mention that kids are equally impressionable and do not want the console that none of their friends have. Complete suicidal strategy. You market a product that is hundreds of dollars to kids and yet they do not have the money to buy them. At least you should be marketing to people that have the resources to go out and purchase whatever you are selling. Your complete lack of concern to attract the casual gamer will sink Nintendo in the next generation. All that Nintendo has built up for the last 20+ years will be no more thanks to people like you who do not embrace the importance of change and what Kyosho mentioned, "adaptation." I mean, you keep saying that Nintendo is doing almost nothing wrong and they have all this money. Well, in your shortsightedness you probably don't know or don't care that Nintendo has posted its first financial loss in the history of the company. Honestly do you think this is just a minor bump in the road or the beginning of their downfall? I believe this probably won't be the last time we hear that Nintendo will post a loss. Quite frankly Nintendo needs less people like you who will drag them down and needs more of its loyal Nintendo followers (the older crowd that have followed Nintendo through good times and bad).

By the way MC, you leaving the thread reaffirms a lot about the different "mindset" I was talking about, which of course is associated with age. No need to get upset about something you can't control.

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TalkBack / RE:GameCube’s Mid-Term Report Card

« on: December 31, 2003, 02:09:48 AM »

MC, being 15 quite honestly puts you in a different mindset than the 20-something year-olds on this thread. I wouldn't go so far to say that I wouldn't have purchased the gamecube just because it was purple, but believe me, when I was waiting in line on launch day (nowhere near the lines for the ps2, may I add), I was telling myself that if they ran out of the black console I would have waited or went elsewhere to get it, I would never have bought the purple one. Even after I got the black one it still seemed too "kiddy" to put in my hi-tech home theater setup so I bought the Panasonic Q, which is definitely better looking than anything out there. Nintendo caters to the Japanese much more than to us Americans. Different colors for consoles work in a place like Japan. Sony has like 8-10 colors available, M$ has a white and grey Xbox, and Nintendo got orange, red, green, and hell, even striped. But in the US, you got black, and well, more black. Different colors just won't work in the US. Sony and M$ targets the young adults, and well, Nintendo targets the kids, which explains why you defend them the way you do. Of course color / design sophistication / online play isn't important to you, since you are the age group that Nintendo is pursuing, and those things aren't really important for a person your age (at least they weren't really important to me when I was 15). What you have to understand is that the gamers who have stuck by Nintendo for 20+ years want to stick by Nintendo, but the company is refusing or having a hard time "growing up," if you will. This caused many players to jump ship and defect to Sony. The problem is your age and the mindset it brings to the discussion. Now that I am 23, I definitely think that there are more things that are important about consoles, not just the quality of its games. It's like everything else in life. When you're 15, the important things in life are probably getting your permit / license, high school, getting a car, friends, even video games. As you grow older, you will find that other things will start to eclipse those in importance, such as what college / university you want to go to, dating, your job / career, even marriage. You see that as you get older, your wants and attitude about certain things change. That's why you don't care about the color of the console, online play, machine design, etc. for your gamecube but one day you will care like the rest of us. You are at a very young age, too young in fact to really understand some of the concerns made in this thread. Someone like you who has grown up in the post-Nintendo dominated era will never truly understand the disappointment that us gamers had to go through when Nintendo slipped from an undisputed first to a distant third. We experienced Nintendo and the revival of the gaming industry first-hand. We grew up as Nintendo grew up. Now our tastes have become much different, but Nintendo does nothing to cater to us anymore. They try to create another generation of gamers as they did us, but it won't work if you are in a distant third place. In fact even little kids that I see when I go to EB, Gamestop, etc. play PS2 and XBox, and the Gamecube at the other side of the store empty and secluded. We don't want that. Our demands of a realistic Zelda, DVD or multimedia playback, online support, a sophisticated looking machine, etc. go unheeded. If you have been following the news lately you will see that things are becoming more and more consolidated. Game machines that act as DVD recorders and players, with hard drives and a TiVo-like function (sound familiar?). These will eventually replace all the devices you have in your living room. Even PDAs / cell phones are merging. Everything is about consolidation and all-in-one, and that is where the industry is headed. Nintendo better highlight this in the next generation. As I read this thread I saw that people were mostly making valid comments about what Nintendo is doing wrong. The reason why you fight back the way you do is really because of your difference in age, experience with Nintendo, etc. that is crucial with understanding the general discussion at hand.

One more thing: Quality does portray a lot about image. If you make a purple plastic console that appears low in quality, it will severely hurt your image, no matter how high quality your games are.