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Nintendo Gaming / The Legend of Zelda: The Chronology Behind the Legend

« on: May 27, 2003, 01:16:50 PM »

Sorry, but no. Wind Waker takes place 100 years (in our 100 years, and that means many generations in Hyrule) after Ocarina of Time.
The original Legend of Zelda and Ocarina of Time are basically the same story.

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Nintendo Gaming / Your thoughts on the Wind Waker ending (major spoilers!! Do not read unless you have already beaten the game!!)

« on: May 27, 2003, 01:12:28 PM »

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I don't mean to be rude, but you are wrong here. First of all, they are only human, and humans make mistakes. It's impossible for one person to remember every tidbit of Zelda knowledge in their heads at one time. Over matters of speculation, their word is considered final, but the true resource for Zelda lore is not Miyamoto or any one other person. The source for all set-in-stone Zelda knowledge we have is the games themselves. They override all other sources (though even that information can change in later games).

Umh. Yes. Naturally the games themselves are the source of all Zelda knowledge, but do you know what? These games didn´t come up just alone. These games had their makers. Aonuma and Miyamoto are the key persons benind Zelda, so it´s their word against our poor speculations, and I´bet for their word.

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Nintendo Gaming / Your thoughts on the Wind Waker ending (major spoilers!! Do not read unless you have already beaten the game!!)

« on: May 24, 2003, 01:29:55 PM »

First of all, I want to say hi for everyone. This is my first post in Planet GameCube forums.

Now to the topic. The only Zelda games I see having some connection to each other are the first NES games and Wind Waker is obvious sequel for Ocarina of Time.
I think the rest of the games have been as whole seperate stories, and you don´t have to know one to understand the other.

The first Legend of Zelda told the basic story as Miyamoto had seen it. Miyamoto wasn´t very involves in Zelda II. Although good game it can be classified as some sort of spin-off in the series.

Now we arrive to Snes era. Miyamoto could refine his vision of Hyrule with 16-bit power. A Link to the past is ultimately the same basic Legend of Zelda, but everything´s done in much bigger and better way than in the original.

Next step was to create a Zelda game for Game Boy, which has been quite a task and it came up very well. Being Game Boy adventure, Link´s awakening didn´t take place in Hyrule, and wasn´t part of the real main saga of the Legend of Zelda. If someone want´s to see this as a sequel for ALTTP, then it´s ok for me, because nothing in this game prevents this theory being true.

Now, Ocarina of Time. I thin that in this game Shigeru Miyamoto had tools to create the world of Hyrule as he had always seen it. In the 80´s and early 90´s technology just wouldn´t let him create anything like this. Like the orinal TLOZ and ALTTP, this game tells the basic story. As I said, I believe this is the Zelda game Miyamoto wanted initially to create. That´s why, this will always remain as the ultimate Zelda game.

I don´t believe Majora´s Mask would be sequel of any kind to OoT. Yes. Link was returned to his original time in OoT, but I don´t think this game explains what Link did after that. It was left for gamers imagination to decide what happned after that. Link just became the hero of Termina, and he doesn´t have to have any connection to the Hero of Time.

Seriously, how come any of you have even tried to place Oracle games to any sort of timeline? Nintendo and Capcom had idea to have a Zelda game that big so that it would be presented in two cartridges. Like in MM. Link has no connection to any of previous Zelda games. He´s hero who rises above among people.

As earlier said Wind Waler is obvious sequel to OoT. For the next Zelda game for GameCube, I realy don´t see any reason to continue this story, honestly, it woul make it seem a bit stupid. Also, I don´t believe the ocean and wind will play such major role in this game. It´s all experienced already.

Honestly, I find your attempts to bring Zelda games lots together a bit amusing. They´re all seperate adventures. Seperate legends. Please understand it.

Also, why is it so hard to believewhen Miyamoto-san and Kojima-san, creators of these games, say something. They say "tere´s hundred years between OoT and WW" or that there are several differebt Links". You guys just knock these words down like they would mean nothing. Come on guys! These are the creators of whole legend, and somehow I their words are much more trustwothy than our own spculations.