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Nintendo Gaming / WARNING: Do NOT open the newest Nintendo Newsletter!
« on: March 24, 2003, 03:06:51 PM »
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Nintendo Gaming / I don't like metroid prime. Heres why:
« on: March 17, 2003, 04:48:57 AM »Quote
but i dont want to go all the way over there and fight that annoying boss, then do the other stuff, and....
You've apparently never played any Metroid game before...
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NWR Feedback / Ads are one thing, but this is silly
« on: March 10, 2003, 04:26:28 AM »
This is my last response to you (Cru_Jones), simply because you have no understanding on the subject at hand. It's going to do nothing but give me headaches trying to figure out what you mean while dancing around what is being discussed and spewing around claims that your opinion is better than mine.
Here, we have a question asked, that was answered previously, yet you choose to not read what was said.
This is a Nintendo fan site, hence loyalty should be towards Nintendo.
Since you don't understand the usage of perverted:
To cause to turn away from what is right, proper, or good; corrupt.
To put to a wrong or improper use; misuse.
Since the entire subject has been about the ads...
Using ads not related to Nintendo can be taken as perverted... They can "turn away from that which is Nintendo" or they can be viewed as, "Ads should be Nintendo, any other game system ads are viewed as being used improperly".
You don't go to IGN.com and see ads for Gamespot. You don't go to Ford's website and see ads for Chevy products. You don't go to Blizzard's website and see them promoting Bioware's Neverwinter Nights.
You made no sense. The subject is about the ads, not reviews, purple boxes, PGC members, or what systems they own. They have a fansite for Nintendo, namely focused at the Gamecube and GBA. I (there is that word again, that you don't understand), feel that ads talking about games/systems other than Nintendo are immoral. That is why I made this thread, to express my dislike for their choice of ad selection. The powers that be have said, in a round about way, that Nintendo doesn't really give them ads to use, which is why they use the other ones. Fine, discussion handled, not by you though, since your opinion is moot.
No I didn't, you're the one that has broadsided this entire thread into a PGC attack. It has always been about the ad in question: Xenosaga, which is PS2 exclusive. If you would kindly look back, you will see that I originally asked if the ad could be replaced with something Nintendo. My second post, again, stated that I wished the ad could be replaced by something Nintendo. Then I called the ad counter-productive because it advertised something that, most people would consider, a rival for Nintendo. My third post, was in response to your babbling on about how I didn't understand the definition of "immoral" while you hinted to the fact that I could only use "immoral" if the site were running something that offended the community. You asked me if I looked up the definition, I did, proved you wrong, showed how it was used, tied it together with my opinion, to justify it in the hopes that you would go away and try to inane tactics on someone else. It didn't, you reponded, and here we are, again, with you on a pedestal, on a subject you don't appear to fully grasp.
I'm going to stop here, rather than respond to the rest, because I'm hoping, again, that you'll go away. I'll leave you with some final words.
My opinion
I
Me
Not yours
Not the general opinion of everyone
Mine
Good luck in your class, you're going to need it if you have to have a higher level of reading comprehension.
I don't see it that way, but it doesn't matter. I just wanted to express my distaste for this ad.
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What is perversely unloyal about PGC advertising videogames on a videogame site.
Here, we have a question asked, that was answered previously, yet you choose to not read what was said.
This is a Nintendo fan site, hence loyalty should be towards Nintendo.
Since you don't understand the usage of perverted:
To cause to turn away from what is right, proper, or good; corrupt.
To put to a wrong or improper use; misuse.
Since the entire subject has been about the ads...
Using ads not related to Nintendo can be taken as perverted... They can "turn away from that which is Nintendo" or they can be viewed as, "Ads should be Nintendo, any other game system ads are viewed as being used improperly".
You don't go to IGN.com and see ads for Gamespot. You don't go to Ford's website and see ads for Chevy products. You don't go to Blizzard's website and see them promoting Bioware's Neverwinter Nights.
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Just because they cover Nintendo, doesn't give them a perverted sense of loyalty. I know for a fact that some writers at PGC have other systems, they sometimes mention it in the purple boxes where they reply to articles. Just because you think that the members of PGC should have a perverted sense of loyalty, doesn't mean that they do.
You made no sense. The subject is about the ads, not reviews, purple boxes, PGC members, or what systems they own. They have a fansite for Nintendo, namely focused at the Gamecube and GBA. I (there is that word again, that you don't understand), feel that ads talking about games/systems other than Nintendo are immoral. That is why I made this thread, to express my dislike for their choice of ad selection. The powers that be have said, in a round about way, that Nintendo doesn't really give them ads to use, which is why they use the other ones. Fine, discussion handled, not by you though, since your opinion is moot.
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Please, choose you battle, because you just defended your views of PGC being immoral and now you are saying that you weren't talking about them when you say that it is counter-productive? You used both words in the same sentence referring to the same entity! So make up your mind, were you talking about PGC or not?
No I didn't, you're the one that has broadsided this entire thread into a PGC attack. It has always been about the ad in question: Xenosaga, which is PS2 exclusive. If you would kindly look back, you will see that I originally asked if the ad could be replaced with something Nintendo. My second post, again, stated that I wished the ad could be replaced by something Nintendo. Then I called the ad counter-productive because it advertised something that, most people would consider, a rival for Nintendo. My third post, was in response to your babbling on about how I didn't understand the definition of "immoral" while you hinted to the fact that I could only use "immoral" if the site were running something that offended the community. You asked me if I looked up the definition, I did, proved you wrong, showed how it was used, tied it together with my opinion, to justify it in the hopes that you would go away and try to inane tactics on someone else. It didn't, you reponded, and here we are, again, with you on a pedestal, on a subject you don't appear to fully grasp.
I'm going to stop here, rather than respond to the rest, because I'm hoping, again, that you'll go away. I'll leave you with some final words.
My opinion
I
Me
Not yours
Not the general opinion of everyone
Mine
Good luck in your class, you're going to need it if you have to have a higher level of reading comprehension.
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It's actually a great deal simpler than that. You are a gamer. You buy games. They want to sell you games. If the game is very, very good, you might even buy the system to play the game on. The ad is as targetted as is necessary. They are hitting the exact right group of people. It may not be a NINTENDO ad, but quite frankly, our website is ONE GIANT NINTENDO AD, and while it would be nice for the advertising to be more Nintendo-oriented, many of our readers are multi-console gamers (or would like to be), so these ads are perfectly acceptable and not at all out of place.
I don't see it that way, but it doesn't matter. I just wanted to express my distaste for this ad.
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NWR Feedback / Ads are one thing, but this is silly
« on: March 08, 2003, 10:26:23 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: Cru_Jones83Quote
It just seems counter-productive and immoral IMHO. I would hope there are Nintendo ads out there that could be used instead of PS2 ones.
This statement is just hilarious... I am currently taking business at university and I just had my second midterm last night (ya... a Friday night)and half of it was on Morality and Business Ethics (Its becoming a big deal right now in the business world because of so many scandals). Anyways, to say that a videogame site advertising for other videogames is immoral is such a false statement. Have you looked up the definition of morality? Maybe if they were advertising porn or something that is seen as offensive by the community as a whole then it would be immoral, but since we as a videogame community don't find videogames offensive, it is really a moot point.
Well, business genius, since you feel the need to attack my opinion (which is why I put the "IMHO" at the end of my post), I'll shoot your flame down.
immoraladj
one of the variations of def: 5: marked by immorality; deviating from what is considered right or proper or good; "depraved criminals"; "a perverted sense of loyalty"; "the reprobate conduct of a gambling aristocrat"
There you go, the part in bold. A perverted sense of loyalty. I'll justify my opinion to you so you don't have to waste the time to response telling me to do so. This is a Nintendo fan site, hence loyalty should be towards Nintendo. But, there is no need for me to explain any of this to you, as I am obviously wrong in my opinion, as your massive knowledge in your "second midterm" easily shoots down what I believe to be counter-productive and immoral advertising on this fansite.
But, as it has been said, Nintendo apparently just doesn't have the ads or the desire to promote more products on this site, which is why it's forced to run PS2 exclusives. Oh well, shame on everyone then I guess.
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One more question for you... What is counter-productive about PGC making money off of stupid advertisers who aren't hitting their target market? It isn't counter-productive for PGC to take money for them, it is only counter-productive for the ad-agency because they are just throwing away their money which could be better spent on mabe even an Xbox (since PS2 and Xbox are said to be in the same demographic, but that is strictly from a business perspective, not saying GC is kiddy). Anyways, to say that PGC is immoral for having PS2 ads on a Gamecube site is JUST a little ridiculous.
I believe, your excelled knowledge has caused you to see more into what I said than humanly possible. "It just seems" does not equal "YOU ALL AT PGC!!~~$@! RAWR!"
Unfortunatly, it was followed by another statement of; "I would hope", referring to the hope that there would have been Nintendo ads to run rather than the PS2 ones. Sadly, you took a dive bomb on the comment and somehow managed to put together the idea that I didn't want PGC to run ads at all, nor make any money from ads.
But, again arguing my humble opinion versus your vast wisdom in the only possible mindset of internet advertising is moot.
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NWR Feedback / Ads are one thing, but this is silly
« on: March 07, 2003, 11:44:15 AM »Quote
Originally posted by: Bloodworth
I think that perhaps that what's possibly the mistake here is the concept that WE are advertising these games. Ads are ads and the companies and their marketing structures are the ones that decide where they want to advertise. How effective PS2 ads would be on a GameCube forum is their concern, not ours.
So then you have no choice in the matter if a company wants to advertise a PS2 exclusive game on your website dedicated to the news and events of Nintendo? Has Nintendo ever approached you about advertising, or have you approached them about it?
It's bad enough that when you visit other sites you are bombarded with "hold on for this ad before you can view the next page" stuff that's 90% PS2, but to come here, to find that last bit of sanity in the internet you are again, being the Nintendo fanboy that you most likely are, being forced to view more ads regarding PS2 exclusive stuff.
It just seems counter-productive and immoral IMHO. I would hope there are Nintendo ads out there that could be used instead of PS2 ones.
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Originally posted by: RickPowers
Sure, and why don't we just get rid of the "Other Systems" area of the Forum while we're at it. After all, this is a Nintendo forum ...
Not sure if that was in response to my complaint, but if so...
That was not the focus of my statement. Having OT forums is a good thing, but advertising in a counter productive manner, in regards to the company you promote, well, that's goofy to me. :/
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NWR Feedback / Ads are one thing, but this is silly
« on: March 06, 2003, 03:57:10 PM »
Ok, I don't mind the ads that load up before the webpage does. Sure they're annoying, but oh well, such is life. -->BUT<-- having an ad for a PS2 exclusive game on a website about Nintendo is insane... The Xenosaga ad should seriously be replaced with something Nintendo.
Better judgement in ad selection would be a great idea, IMO.
Better judgement in ad selection would be a great idea, IMO.
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